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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Keithuk on 30 May 2011, 13:35

Title: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Keithuk on 30 May 2011, 13:35
When is the next rolling road day that you are arranging Doc?

I see there is the R-Tech day 19th June is that the same or similar?

My main reason it I read on here but I can't find it at the moment that because of the DPF problems VW are having they did a software update they say removed 20bhp of the GTD. I would like to see it 20bhp has been removed of mine if it has then I will be suing VW because if your paying for a 170PS motor and they now reduce this through no fault of my own then that contravines the sale of goods act.
Title: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 May 2011, 13:41
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=192905.0

From the reading I've done it was only on the PD engines and not the CR engines found in the MK6.  Also Doc has mentioned that there has been no reduced power output on his rollers when run in 3 / 4 /5th gear which is where the quoted output is found
Title: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Keithuk on 30 May 2011, 13:54
Well I read its the GTD that looses 20bhp not the old PD engine Rhyso. I say I've searched for this statement but I can't find it now.
Title: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Exonian on 30 May 2011, 14:08
I too was only aware of the PD 170s having the DPF issues and consequently the 26E6 software ECU updates that killed the power.
Title: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 May 2011, 15:57
Well I read its the GTD that looses 20bhp not the old PD engine Rhyso. I say I've searched for this statement but I can't find it now.

Only the Audi A3 / MK5 PD 170 engines Keith  :wink:

I too was only aware of the PD 170s having the DPF issues and consequently the 26E6 software ECU updates that killed the power.

Apparently they killed the power in 1st and 2nd gears and increased the frequency of the DPF regeneration cycles.  That's what Iv'e read across the forums  :undecided:  Forgot to ask Audi if mine had the latest software revision when it was in for a service the other week  :sad:  Not that it will matter come the end of the year  :lipsrsealed:
Title: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 30 May 2011, 20:24
Hope this helps.

GTD / 170 CR engines - every one that I have had on the DYNO has made 170PS give or take 3PS.

I have a bypass pipe in development for the 170 CR - more to follow when it's tested fully.

The old 170 PD's are fine once the old DPF has been bypassed.

I've got a 170 A4 and a 170 passat in next week, both of which are PD engines so I'll DYNO them both prior to DPF removal and report my findings.

Keith if you want to come over I'll check your motor for you  :wink:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 30 May 2011, 20:27
When is the next rolling road day that you are arranging Doc?

It's Saturday 1st October Linky: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=192905.0
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 May 2011, 20:29
One thing that confuses me is is it a bypass pipe or a replacement pipe for the DPF?

I assume its like decatting the MK4 Golf's; whip the car out and stick the decat in?  :huh:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 30 May 2011, 20:40
One thing that confuses me is is it a bypass pipe or a replacement pipe for the DPF?

I assume its like decatting the MK4 Golf's; whip the car out and stick the decat in?  :huh:

Sorry if I've been vague  :wink:

We remove your old DPF and give it back to you complete and fit a custom made non DPF pipe in it's place.

The passat will be getting one of these Linky: http://www.millteksport.com/media.file.cfm?fileid=555
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 May 2011, 20:42
One thing that confuses me is is it a bypass pipe or a replacement pipe for the DPF?

I assume its like decatting the MK4 Golf's; whip the car out and stick the decat in?  :huh:

Sorry if I've been vague  :wink:

We remove your old DPF and give it back to you complete and fit a custom made non DPF pipe in it's place.

The passat will be getting one of these Linky: http://www.millteksport.com/media.file.cfm?fileid=555

Thought it was the case :afro:  Cheers for clearing that up  :smiley:  Best start saving those pennies  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Keithuk on 31 May 2011, 01:15
Thanks for making this a new thread Doc. I shall have to wait for September to come by?
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Exonian on 31 May 2011, 10:12
Can't you use VCDS to do a BHP check?
If someone had stolen 20bhp off me I'd want to know before September!
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Steve30 on 31 May 2011, 13:01
Thanks for making this a new thread Doc. I shall have to wait for September to come by?


Keith does it feel slower then? I would notice that myself  :undecided:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 31 May 2011, 13:02
Thanks for making this a new thread Doc. I shall have to wait for September to come by?



My pleasure  :wink:


Keith if you want to come over I'll check your motor for you  :wink:

Keith if you want to come over I'll check your motor for you 
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Rhyso on 31 May 2011, 13:09
Make it go faster!!  :evil: :evil:

170bhp just doesn't cut it these days  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Keithuk on 31 May 2011, 13:23
Can't you use VCDS to do a BHP check?
Maybe you can I shall have to have a look.

I believe there is a Torque setting in there again I shall have to have a look for that?

'09 Engine torque values (and VCDS logging) (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=245831)

If someone had stolen 20bhp off me I'd want to know before September!
I could have been but I'm sure it was this year or it could have been someone else that said it, I've searched for all kinds of 20bhp, 20 bhp, 20hp, 20 hp? I thought it was of The Doc but I've searched all his posts this year but I can't see it?

Keith if you want to come over I'll check your motor for you  :wink:
Check what Doc?

I can't say that I've noticed any power difference I'm just curious that some TDI owners complain they've had it serviced and the software update by the dealer now the engine doesn't seem as perky.
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Saint Steve on 31 May 2011, 16:21
There is a Rolling road day at JKM, portsmouth on the 18th of june..

Visit www.mk5golfgti.co.uk and add your name :smiley:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Keithuk on 31 May 2011, 18:04
Well we used to have a SUN RAMXII chassis dyno with all the extra options and special software to plot then results at the college where I work but we were told to move into new workshops. There was no room in the new workshop, guess what we gave a £10,000 machine away, tossers?
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 31 May 2011, 21:14
There is a Rolling road day at JKM, portsmouth on the 18th of june..

Visit www.mk5golfgti.co.uk and add your name :smiley:

By all accounts JKM are very good at what they do, they also have a "heartbreaker" dyno  :grin:

Keith if you want to come over I'll check your motor for you  :wink:
Check what Doc?

I can't say that I've noticed any power difference I'm just curious that some TDI owners complain they've had it serviced and the software update by the dealer now the engine doesn't seem as perky.

Check that it's still making 170 PS on the DYNO - FOC of course and all in the name of science  :wink:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: mike. on 31 May 2011, 21:22
Can you do DSGs on the dyno ?
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: Keithuk on 01 June 2011, 01:07

Check that it's still making 170 PS on the DYNO - FOC of course and all in the name of science  :wink:

Cheers Doc, I don't mind paying or donating to the charity, PM me?
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 01 June 2011, 08:42
Can you do DSGs on the dyno ?

Yes sir, not a problem  :wink:
Title: Re: When is the next Rolling Road day?
Post by: The Doc on 01 June 2011, 08:45

Check that it's still making 170 PS on the DYNO - FOC of course and all in the name of science  :wink:

Cheers Doc, I don't mind paying or donating to the charity, PM me?

Forum charity is best, thank you.