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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: mowlamb on 30 May 2011, 18:03

Title: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: mowlamb on 30 May 2011, 18:03
It baffles me why they ever used the stupid clip system! Thought I fixed a problem at the bottom of the intercooler and then find that the top connection is causing a boost leak!

So today's job was to whip off the bumper, take the driver's side headlight out and then remove the offending pipes, clean then up then re fit them. Luckily the seals on the pipes were ok. But due to the stupid clips the connecting pipe had managed to work it's self loose. I forgot to get a picture of how it all was before I started but I got a couple to show where the problem was and the part that was causing it.

There is a bit of pipe that sits between the 2 connections. That is where the clips had come loose causing a boost leak.

(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy80/mowlamb/Boost%20Fix/boostfix-001.jpg)

The connecting pipe and seals all cleaned up.

(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy80/mowlamb/Boost%20Fix/boostfix-002.jpg)

All back together nice and tight. Just hope the clips hold together a bit better this time.

(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy80/mowlamb/Boost%20Fix/boostfix-004.jpg)
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: golf-sib on 30 May 2011, 18:23
Good job :afro: use super glue I heard it works well  :grin:
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: jamie16v on 30 May 2011, 23:06
ive heard a fmic works well on solving that issue... :grin: :evil:
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: nadlad on 30 May 2011, 23:31
put a self tapper in and it will never come off again
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: navmk4gti on 31 May 2011, 15:12
go silicone
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: Rhyso on 31 May 2011, 15:28
go silicone

You still don't over come the stupid clip problem though.  All aftermarket solutions in terms of boost pipes still use the clip system.

You need an FMIC to eliminate this problem on the 130TDI  :sad:
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: mowlamb on 31 May 2011, 16:58
Well I just got home from work and the pipe is back to how it was yesterday so I need to find some kind of solution :(

With silicon it will be jubilee clips. Surely they are better?
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: Rhyso on 31 May 2011, 17:00
Well I just got home from work and the pipe is back to how it was yesterday so I need to find some kind of solution :(

With silicon it will be jubilee clips. Surely they are better?

How would you secure it to the intercooler though?  :huh:  You wouldn't create a good enough seal  :undecided:
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: mowlamb on 31 May 2011, 17:14
Apparently there is an adaptor you can get from SFS. Failing that the turbo revs intercooler has different connections on the intercooler allowing for jubilee clips.
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: Rhyso on 31 May 2011, 17:30
Apparently there is an adaptor you can get from SFS. Failing that the turbo revs intercooler has different connections on the intercooler allowing for jubilee clips.

I had the SFS hose and that still used the OEM clip system into the intercooler

Only way I know of is aftermarket throughout
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: mowlamb on 31 May 2011, 17:48
Pic of an SFS adaptor in standard PD130 Pancake pipe:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/madman3/IMAG0821.jpg)

PD130 to intercooler with 60mm coupler over SFS VW bayonet adaptor:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/madman3/IMAG0820.jpg)
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: golf-sib on 31 May 2011, 18:51
Surely just get a pipe with the correct diameter, chop it down to the right size, bead the pipe and put hose clamps or screw type jubilee's on?

Whats the pipe diameter on the PD engines 50mm?
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: mowlamb on 31 May 2011, 18:57
That is part of the plan. However because the intercooler has the bayonet connection either an aftermarket intercooler (£94) or a bayonet adaptor (£30) is needed. I know the bits I now need to sort it all out it just depends on whether I go the whole hog and get the aftermarket intercooler as well.

Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: Rhyso on 31 May 2011, 21:26
That adaptor is a new development then as that wasn't available when i had my MK4

Not overly convinced it looks like its creating a great seal mind  :undecided:
Title: Re: The curse of the stupid VW clips struck again!!
Post by: golf-sib on 31 May 2011, 23:36
Ditch the bayonet nonsense and make a custom pancake pipe like so:

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/pancake1.jpg)

Then its win win, or as said make a pipe between the TB and IC, shouldn't be to pricey. I got some 51mm piping laying around somewhere.