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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: billabong on 30 May 2011, 18:01

Title: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: billabong on 30 May 2011, 18:01
Hi Guys,
I'm soon going to be doing a conversion from my AGG to nice and shiny 2E. Ive got the ECU, loom and engine (with all ancillaries).
I'm changing the box at the same time (to one that doesnt crunch in reverse!)

How much of the loom will need changing? Will it need changing all the way to the fusebox? Will I need to change the ECU or will my current one work? (I imagine not as the sensors are different?)

Will I need to recode my key to the new ECU or does the 2E not have an immobiliser?

Its the first engine change i've done, the most I have done before is gearboxes, I know this is a big jump but myself and my mate that is helping are quite technical and mechincally minded so hopefully should be able to manage.

Can anyone foresee any potential problems we might encounter?

Many Thanks

Will
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: F17BAD on 30 May 2011, 18:41
look after my old engine.. it was always good to me  :sad: :cool:

their was no coded sh!t on the early ones so you are all good to go their
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: billabong on 30 May 2011, 19:14
haha, just got your PM about immo so thats cool :)
The only bit i'm scared about is the wiring :P The rest is just lift in and bolt in :P

I will look after her! :)
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Wayne on 30 May 2011, 20:33
Would be better to switch back to the 2e ecu and loom set up if you have it.

Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Khare on 30 May 2011, 20:37
Would be better to switch back to the 2e ecu and loom set up if you have it.



Infact you need to switch to the 2E ECU. It has an ISV and various other bits and that AGG doesn't, and vice versa (crank sensor).
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Wayne on 30 May 2011, 20:39
Would be better to switch back to the 2e ecu and loom set up if you have it.



Infact you need to switch to the 2E ECU. It has an ISV and various other bits and that AGG doesn't, and vice versa (crank sensor).

That is what I was thinking, I remember a thread of yours saying they were a lot different.
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Rmachines on 30 May 2011, 20:52
AGG and 2E are diffrent injection systems all together the 2E was digifant  and the AGG was Simos.   ECU is a must, engine loom for sure, dashloom, that can stay.
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: billabong on 30 May 2011, 21:14
I'm glad the dashloom can stay, that would mean it taking even longer!

The clocks are same?
Ive got the ECU and engine loom so that will help :)

Will
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Wayne on 30 May 2011, 21:18
Can I ask the reason for wanting to switch back to the older engine :smiley:
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: F17BAD on 30 May 2011, 21:19
Yeap i give him my ECU and the loom with the engine, i have the origial clocks that was in the car when i bought it, ill sell them if need be but yours will work fine  :smiley:

Wayne, its my old lump - clean good strong engine and the 2E's were the best of the 8v bunch (my opinion).
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: billabong on 30 May 2011, 21:24
Can I ask the reason for wanting to switch back to the older engine :smiley:
Not entirely happy with mine, headgasket is seeping oil (getting worse), it needs a good service (cambelt) and Brad's 2E is well looked after, shiny (the GF likes this...lol) and a better engine?

W
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Wayne on 30 May 2011, 21:30
 :cool: good luck with sorting it.
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: F17BAD on 30 May 2011, 21:35
ill miss that engine i spent alot of time keeping it well...

for a 8v it always performed well. suprised me anyhow
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Rmachines on 30 May 2011, 22:50
The 2E was a better engine for sure, AGG never seemed as lively as my 2E did.   good luck  :smiley:
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: tdi_blu on 30 May 2011, 23:53
The 8v weather it be a 2E or AGG is a pretty solid reliable lump my AGG unit has been 110% reliable more so than other mk3s ive own with more valves good luck with the swap...
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: Seanl on 31 May 2011, 14:45
Ah glad this has been asked. My AGG has just died a horrible death, and was wondering what was involved to switch to another 8v lump. Think I may just try and find another AGG as I cant be arsed with the rest of it!  :grin:
Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: F17BAD on 31 May 2011, 18:28
must admit the 8v lumps are solid, i think the issues most have with the later versions was all the silly sensors that the 2E never had

Title: Re: AGG to 2E conversion
Post by: tweed on 31 May 2011, 19:27
Shame they are worthless, Mine is almost at 30k I would sell it if it got good money.