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Title: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 29 May 2011, 18:00
Anyone know of a guide for headgasket change on a 1800 carb cabroilet?
Do i need many tools or much experience?
Thanks
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Wayne on 29 May 2011, 20:25
Not a major job and easier on a 8v.

You will need a spline drive bit for the headbolts plus you will need new ones as they are stretch bolts also worth fitting a new cambelt.

Leave the manfolds on if you can.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Sam on 29 May 2011, 20:43
You dont need any experience, just take your time and mark everything (mark your cam belt using tipex)
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 30 May 2011, 15:21
cheers
also do i need a torque wrench for the bolts?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 30 May 2011, 16:03
will this do the job?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Head-Gasket-Bolts-VW-Golf-Mk1-1800cc-GTI-Cabriolet-/170567120744?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b697b768 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Head-Gasket-Bolts-VW-Golf-Mk1-1800cc-GTI-Cabriolet-/170567120744?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b697b768)

Theres a more expensive set on GSF, idk if the quality differs?

Thanks
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Wayne on 30 May 2011, 19:57
will this do the job?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Head-Gasket-Bolts-VW-Golf-Mk1-1800cc-GTI-Cabriolet-/170567120744?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b697b768 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Head-Gasket-Bolts-VW-Golf-Mk1-1800cc-GTI-Cabriolet-/170567120744?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b697b768)

Theres a more expensive set on GSF, idk if the quality differs?

Thanks

Looks ok, but I would go for a better / known quality head gasket.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Sam on 30 May 2011, 23:12
As wayne said go for GSF brand name head gasket, iirc the gasket on its own should be 19quid or somthing and the bolts come to just over a tenner (at least with the mk2 16v but I cant imagine its much different). You NEED a torque wrench to tighten the head bolts IN ORDER and in stages, should be two nm values and then 180deg or somthing similair. Not much effort but it has to be done, you can borrow one for half an hour and be done with it but they are always worth having for suspension and stuff. As for the order it should come with the gasket on a bit of paper but essentially it starts from the middle and works out diagonally so would be 5,6,3,8,4,7 etc if you call 5,6 the centre working top to bottom.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 31 May 2011, 22:11
cheers guys
did a bit of googling still havnt found a guide on here, got my haynes manual though
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Wayne on 31 May 2011, 23:30
cheers guys
did a bit of googling still havnt found a guide on here, got my haynes manual though

Haynes manual is ok, not major hard just take your time.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 01 June 2011, 00:12
timing belt purchased head gasket purchased... ill let you know how it goes this weekend  :smiley:
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Lee_dub on 01 June 2011, 00:15
A good timing up guide exists here

http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=40352
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 01 June 2011, 00:19
eugh that looks complicated, cant i just mark it up and put it back in the same position?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Wayne on 01 June 2011, 08:43
timing belt purchased head gasket purchased... ill let you know how it goes this weekend  :smiley:

Good luck :afro:
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Guy on 01 June 2011, 18:02
best of luck with this  :smiley:
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 01 June 2011, 21:51
what spline bit do i need for the head bolts? m12?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Sam on 02 June 2011, 00:10
eugh that looks complicated, cant i just mark it up and put it back in the same position?

Yes you can  :smiley:

what spline bit do i need for the head bolts? m12?

If its the same as a mk2 then yes. Also you need to replace these bolts as they are stretch bolts. Also make sure you work clean.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 June 2011, 13:01
good luck with this.... make lots of clear marks when doing the belt and try not to move things too much once the belt is off.  But then as long as you have marked up all the wheels and pulleys positions you can't go too wrong...

Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Sam on 02 June 2011, 15:26
good luck with this.... make lots of clear marks when doing the belt and try not to move things too much once the belt is off.  But then as long as you have marked up all the wheels and pulleys positions you can't go too wrong...



Unless you run a NHS style operation and casually leave random tools/rags/parts inside the bores  :grin:
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 June 2011, 16:06
good luck with this.... make lots of clear marks when doing the belt and try not to move things too much once the belt is off.  But then as long as you have marked up all the wheels and pulleys positions you can't go too wrong...



Unless you run a NHS style operation and casually leave random tools/rags/parts inside the bores  :grin:

You been round my place recently then!?  :grin: Or are you talking from experience?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Guy on 02 June 2011, 16:20
good luck with this.... make lots of clear marks when doing the belt and try not to move things too much once the belt is off.  But then as long as you have marked up all the wheels and pulleys positions you can't go too wrong...



Unless you run a NHS style operation and casually leave random tools/rags/parts inside the bores  :grin:

or chopsticks.. eh Horney?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Sam on 02 June 2011, 22:54
good luck with this.... make lots of clear marks when doing the belt and try not to move things too much once the belt is off.  But then as long as you have marked up all the wheels and pulleys positions you can't go too wrong...



Unless you run a NHS style operation and casually leave random tools/rags/parts inside the bores  :grin:

or chopsticks.. eh Horney?  :lipsrsealed:

Ok, just a guess but... did nick try checking his tdc with chopsticks and snap one thus dropping it in?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Guy on 02 June 2011, 23:31
good luck with this.... make lots of clear marks when doing the belt and try not to move things too much once the belt is off.  But then as long as you have marked up all the wheels and pulleys positions you can't go too wrong...



Unless you run a NHS style operation and casually leave random tools/rags/parts inside the bores  :grin:

or chopsticks.. eh Horney?  :lipsrsealed:

Ok, just a guess but... did nick try checking his tdc with chopsticks and snap one thus dropping it in?

 :lipsrsealed:



 :rolleyes:




 :grin:
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 03 June 2011, 20:24
got all the bits through and some decent coolant and oil and filter
just dropped all the coolant and been flushing it out
do i need to drop the oil or can i get away with not doing that right now?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Wayne on 03 June 2011, 21:52
got all the bits through and some decent coolant and oil and filter
just dropped all the coolant and been flushing it out
do i need to drop the oil or can i get away with not doing that right now?

Can be left for now.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 03 June 2011, 22:05
what do i do with the manifold? unbolt it where it meets the head?
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: Wayne on 03 June 2011, 22:17
what do i do with the manifold? unbolt it where it meets the head?

Exhaust?

Yes or split at the downpipe and leave on head.
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 04 June 2011, 02:08
ah cool cheers just having trouble getting the bolts off, dont think theyve been touched for years
will have another do tomorrow
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 04 June 2011, 14:23
well good news guys
got the cylinder head off
cylinder head looks fine with no cracks or anything and the head looks fine too, gonna inspect it a bit further when my mate comes along to help
i couldnt see any blows on the old head gasket but it does look a bit old and mangled
will keep you updated
ryan
Title: Re: headgasket change- anyone have a guide?
Post by: RyanVW on 04 June 2011, 21:30
everything except the exhaust manifold clamps has been put back together
started the car and it seems to be running well
does anyone know a technique to get them back on or another way to fix it?
gonna do it tomorrow when the cars on ramps

cheers