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General => General discussion => Topic started by: DubAndDubber on 21 May 2011, 23:08
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yoo, i recently bought some amg alloys for my mk4. basically i had to order pcd adaptors which was fine.
but i have one big big problem, the bolts wont fit through the hole on the wheel, and obviously i cant get smaller ones because they wont fit the thread on the hub. what do i do! i think i might have a go at drilling them tomorrow to get a bigger diameter in the wheel, then my bolts can fit through. i also need longer bolts. PAIN!
any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Have you checked with the spacer supplier the they dont do a different adapter with the correct thread, even if I had to buy new bolts and spacers... I'd rather do that than drill/machine the wheels, check first! measure what size threads are required in the adapters!
Thom
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You would need to have them machined properly, black and decker = :sick:
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lol why cant i do it with a black and decker! that was the plan! nah the adaptors were 150 alone mate im not buying another set! know how much it is roughly to get them machined?
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first i was like :shocked:
then i was like :laugh:
but now i am :sick:
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Surely if they sell a set with the correct bolts, you could return the set you got and have the correct ones sent out to you?
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merc bolts are smaller than dub, even if fitting onto a passat ( 5x112 same as merc ) people have issues ,
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first i was like :shocked:
then i was like :laugh:
but now i am :sick:
proper dont understand that mate, anyways ive had a bit of progress today, drilled the holes in the alloy with a black and decker. i know what youre thinking but it came out bloody good, took my time with it and im pretty chuffed! pardon the pun. now all i need to get is longer bolts which ill be getting tomorrow. ill keep you posted!
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You drilled the wheels :shocked:
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first i was like :shocked:
then i was like :laugh:
but now i am :sick:
proper dont understand that mate, anyways ive had a bit of progress today, drilled the holes in the alloy with a black and decker. i know what youre thinking but it came out bloody good, took my time with it and im pretty chuffed! pardon the pun. now all i need to get is longer bolts which ill be getting tomorrow. ill keep you posted!
Its simple,
First he was like :shocked:
Then he was like :laugh:
But now, he's like :sick:
HTH
Thom
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first i was like :shocked:
then i was like :laugh:
but now i am :sick:
proper dont understand that mate, anyways ive had a bit of progress today, drilled the holes in the alloy with a black and decker. i know what youre thinking but it came out bloody good, took my time with it and im pretty chuffed! pardon the pun. now all i need to get is longer bolts which ill be getting tomorrow. ill keep you posted!
Its simple,
First he was like :shocked:
Then he was like :laugh:
But now, he's like :sick:
HTH
Thom
Oh now i understand thanks for clearing that up......
adaptors dont come with wheel bolts just the bolts to bolt the adaptor on, lol. Alot of bolts..
so you are meant to use your own, which would be the ones off my golf, but they dont fit in the hole on the alloys, so i drilled them to make them 1 mm bigger, now the bolts fit great, they just aren't long enough.
dont know why everyone is sh!tting themselves about drilling wheels, grow some balls! its easy, try it!
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dont know why everyone is sh!tting themselves about drilling wheels, grow some balls! its easy, try it!
You clearly don't have an engineering background do you?
Hope I'm not driving in the opposite direction when your dodgy home drilled alloy wheel comes flying off :rolleyes:
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No ones sh!tting themselves, they're just telling you that its a f*king stupid idea to drill your wheels.... which it is btw :undecided:
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Lets see some pics of the drilled wheels.
Cheers
Adrian
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Seems mad to me that you have drilled the wheels, not the greatest of ideas is it really.
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(http://ukbouldering.com/board/Smileys/ukbCustom/popcorn.gif)
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:laugh:
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy200/skippybigballs/wheels-fall-off.jpg)
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Sorry to rain on everyones parade but drilling out the wheel bolt holes, even up to about 3mm wont make a blind bit of difference, providing you didnt subject the alloy to any extreme heat when drilling then there shouldnt be a problem at all.
You can actually buy alloys with no holes in em at all that you just drill out yourself :shocked:
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Sorry to rain on everyones parade but drilling out the wheel bolt holes, even up to about 3mm wont make a blind bit of difference, providing you didnt subject the alloy to any extreme heat when drilling then there shouldnt be a problem at all.
You can actually buy alloys with no holes in em at all that you just drill out yourself :shocked:
Indeed, as long as you used a pillar drill sort of arrangement or had them on a lathe to ensure they drilled perfectly straight and true it shouldnt really be an issue.
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Thankyou guys! I know what I'm doing I've seen it done plenty of times, I'll get some before and after pictures up soon. I drilled through an old socket so I made sure it was straight, the wheel goes on perfect, but it won't stay on very long as there's about 2 mm of the screw in the hub lol!
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Sorry to rain on everyones parade but drilling out the wheel bolt holes, even up to about 3mm wont make a blind bit of difference, providing you didnt subject the alloy to any extreme heat when drilling then there shouldnt be a problem at all.
You can actually buy alloys with no holes in em at all that you just drill out yourself :shocked:
Indeed, as long as you used a pillar drill sort of arrangement or had them on a lathe to ensure they drilled perfectly straight and true it shouldnt really be an issue.
Indeed but there was no mention of that was there? Just that he'd done it with his black and decker at home. Which isn't the safest way of doing it let's be honest. Fair enough if you have the equipment and know what you are doing but it's not really something you want to do on trial and error basis.
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Sorry to rain on everyones parade but drilling out the wheel bolt holes, even up to about 3mm wont make a blind bit of difference, providing you didnt subject the alloy to any extreme heat when drilling then there shouldnt be a problem at all.
You can actually buy alloys with no holes in em at all that you just drill out yourself :shocked:
Indeed, as long as you used a pillar drill sort of arrangement or had them on a lathe to ensure they drilled perfectly straight and true it shouldnt really be an issue.
I concur :wink:
Indeed but there was no mention of that was there? Just that he'd done it with his black and decker at home. Which isn't the safest way of doing it let's be honest. Fair enough if you have the equipment and know what you are doing but it's not really something you want to do on trial and error basis.
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tungsten metal drill bit, and some big bollocks, extra cash lying around makes it easier to.... thats all i used!
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By and large a drill bit will normally run true through an already present hole (even with a handheld B+D), so I don't hold the same fears as everyone else and trust if the guy messed up he would know it and ditch the wheels, the only reason I would feel funny about doing it is devaluing the wheels.
That said I would still like to see pics.
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i know im devaluing the wheels lol but i dont plan to change the alloys again! ive done 11 holes so far in 2 days, so really taking my time, over half way through and havent messed up a single hole yet! will get pics up tomorrow so you can all have a good moan/b!tch/discussion ;)
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i know im devaluing the wheels lol but i dont plan to change the alloys again! ive done 11 holes so far in 2 days, so really taking my time, over half way through and havent messed up a single hole yet! will get pics up tomorrow so you can all have a good moan/b!tch/discussion ;)
:lipsrsealed:
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Haha I like how you pointed that out! I've been looking around for months for alloys and I really want these on the car, thinking about it I should've got some adaptors made up which take merc m12 bolts. But the cheapest way is the beat way ;)
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ive drilled wheels in the past and had no troubles, and will do if i have to in the future, there is absolutely no problem in doin this and yet again people have jumped on the bandwagon of saying its dangerous. its not, the cup of the recess still aligns the bolt, there is no difference made to the weight spread as hes using the right size bolts, it wont affect the pcd as thats set by the adaptor, the centering is done by the hub/spigot ring.
however i would have used a bench drill
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ive drilled wheels in the past and had no troubles, and will do if i have to in the future, there is absolutely no problem in doin this and yet again people have jumped on the bandwagon of saying its dangerous. its not, the cup of the recess still aligns the bolt, there is no difference made to the weight spread as hes using the right size bolts, it wont affect the pcd as thats set by the adaptor, the centering is done by the hub/spigot ring.
however i would have used a bench drill
If I had access to a bench drill old of believe me, bolts came today so pics of the alloys and the alloys on the car will be posted up!
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just for reference, not all merc bolts are m12, quite a few are m14
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yeah i know mate, for example- s class