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Title: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 29 March 2005, 20:27
Just had a good close look at my car after it died on me today while doing bout 70mph! Managed to pull over pretty much straight after - But on closer inspection tonight i have discovered this is the cause

(http://uk.geocities.com/nebzprofile/carprobs.jpg)

I know its probably bad - but how bad????

This car really knows how to annoy the hell outta me!
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 March 2005, 20:32
I can't see anything ??  :laugh:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Rain on 29 March 2005, 20:37
try renaming your image as the forum is censoring you link f**k and sh!t instead of the correct spelling
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 29 March 2005, 20:41
yeah mate your cam tensioner has gone, you might be lucky and retiming it and putting a new belt on and it might run, however i doubt thats the case you prob bent some valves and damaged some pistons maybe. only way you will know is if you strip the head down/take it off unlucky mate
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 29 March 2005, 20:43
 :cry: Life really aint beeing kind too me lately!!  This damn car is nothing but trouble!!
Grrr!
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 29 March 2005, 20:54
anyone else wanna chip in with there 2pence??? I need as many opinions as possible

Much thanks

nebz

(http://www.geocities.com/nebzprofile/Side.bmp)
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: fin170703 on 29 March 2005, 21:03
cant see a picture mate
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 29 March 2005, 21:13
BUMP!
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: fin170703 on 29 March 2005, 21:23
what does bump mean
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Mr Blue on 29 March 2005, 23:16
'Bump' is a way to move the thread to the top Fin. just like 'TTT' which means 'to the top'

Nebbo. sounds costly mate
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 March 2005, 23:23
The bits that are 'missing' are actually service tools.
My advice would be to take the head off as a matter of course, and inspect the damage.
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Rain on 29 March 2005, 23:26
you forgot pray for a miracle too 6
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Mr Blue on 29 March 2005, 23:30
you forgot pray for a miracle too 6

we need to pray to VR  :grin:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 29 March 2005, 23:34
Guys - You are sposed to be putting my mind at rest!!! comments like "Nah thats an easy fix mate" or "Even my dead gran could fix that, its that easy"  :tongue: im fairly a Noob, so what does this sort of problem cause the engine?  :laugh:

I've spent soooooo much cash on this beast in the last few months, probably bout £1500 and i'll be gutted if this finishes me off  :cry:

Anyone feel sorry enough for me to give me a 2.0 16V from a Mk3 - Am i correct in thinking this is an easy swap?
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Rain on 29 March 2005, 23:39
worst case senario is its knackered but like 6 said it really needs to be inspected before the full extent of the damage is known cant give you a straight answer im afraid, normally when cam belts come off it wrecks the valves and pistons by bending them in your case if the belt didnt come off and assuming it didnt slip theses are big if's then its still the fact the wheel is sheered off and is probably a difficult job to repair in itself
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 March 2005, 00:00
Is it an 8 or 16v?
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 30 March 2005, 00:38
It is an 8v, wot difference does this make?
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: moonsta on 30 March 2005, 02:25
 :sad: sorry mate but at 70 mph it WILL have bent most if not all the valves and possbily damaged or cracked a piston or 2......... if the tensioner bolt has sheered off you will probably have to remove the engine to try and drill it out and re-tap the thread out,l;ike yo said it's gona be costly if you re-build it.................me personaly i would just put another lump in it and save loads of grief  :cry:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 30 March 2005, 02:38
yeah looks as if its bitten the dust! ive got a few options
1. Break it apart and get what i can
2. Stick a new Engine in bearing in mind that is gunna cost alot
3. Keep the car as a project
4. Sell it as it is

I really do not know what to do.  Just out of interest how much you reckon i could get for a DTML Weber (think thats the right 1) its basiclly new on as of 3 months.  Any guesses?
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Post by: Dannyd on 30 March 2005, 06:11
look at it this way the engine is gonna come out to be inspected and fixed go down to the scappy and get another engine for it! £150ish for an 8v engine take about half a day to fit and if your feeling lucky take your old engine and slowly build it back up with a few mods along the way :tongue:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: fin170703 on 30 March 2005, 09:17
Topic: Wanted mk 2 16v oak green

If you are thinking of selling this guy is after a mk2 with a knacker-ed engine. He goes on to say that he isn't bothered about it

being oak green. My opinion would be to keep it if you look on the parts for sale section there are plenty of engines going. As far as

repair goes if you did go down that line i wouldn't dream of a short fix, like the guys said, you need to get the head off first , not a

massive job, and check all valves etc etc, i would be amazed if there not shot to pieces, might have been lucky if you were doing 20

but not 70,. Once the head is off you'll have a much better idea of potential costs but don't give up just yet  :wink:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 March 2005, 12:12
Being an 8v, the damage will not be as bad.
Take the head, it might not be as bad as you think.
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: jamesd on 30 March 2005, 17:11
If it's completely standard, and didn't let go at silly revs (c. 6800+, higher than redline) the 1.8 8v engine is non interference. I wouldn't even bother taking the head off, should be fine with just a new belt & tensioner.

If it's not standard ,ie got a higher lift cam, or the head or block have been decked to increase compression, or different pistons, then it's a problem.

1.1s, 1.3s and 16v are the only Mk2 Golf engines with interference.
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 March 2005, 17:33
You're not going to know if the engine is standard, or whether the head has been skimmed.
Take the head off as a matter of course, anything else would be just bad practice.
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: fin170703 on 30 March 2005, 18:08
i agree. it would be madness not to check the top end out, especially as you were doing 70
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: KungFooBob on 30 March 2005, 20:38
If the 8v engine really is non interference then thats great news!!!!

Alot of the Fiat engines are non interference, my mate had the cam belt snap on his Chinq at high speed,  he just popped a new belt on, timed it up and it ran like a good'un.
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Rain on 30 March 2005, 20:42
is anyone positive that 8v's are non interfernce never really thought about it but normally high proformance vehicles are interfernce.
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 30 March 2005, 20:57
If the 8v engine really is non interference then thats great news!!!!

Alot of the Fiat engines are non interference, my mate had the cam belt snap on his Chinq at high speed,  he just popped a new belt on, timed it up and it ran like a good'un.

you sure it ran like a good 'un? it is a fiat................. :tongue:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: the Driver on 30 March 2005, 23:04
i go on 2 say that it is either oak green or metalic blue im after!  , what colour is it? and what condition is the shell ?
minding u need 2 b in scotland :smiley:
Title: Re: TELL ME HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS!
Post by: Nebbo on 01 April 2005, 14:05
ill send u a link from the other forum posts  :tongue: