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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: Guy on 17 May 2011, 12:30

Title: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 17 May 2011, 12:30
as above... looking to replace my spotlights (inner dual light grille)... can find mk2 ones no problem... will they fit a mk1?
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 17 May 2011, 12:46
I "think" that they are slightly smaller iirc.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 May 2011, 12:58
Nope... certainly not a direct swap anyway.  Someone tell me i'm wrong.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 17 May 2011, 13:01
Oh, by they, I mean the mk1 spots are smaller.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 17 May 2011, 13:12
oh poo.. thanks chaps
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 May 2011, 13:15
oh poo.. thanks chaps

none on ebay?....... i always saw some on there when i was looking for a new grille?
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 May 2011, 13:21
Guy.... PM me your e-mail
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 17 May 2011, 14:14
Guy.... PM me your e-mail

doneski.. thank you  :wink:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 May 2011, 14:28
Guy.... PM me your e-mail

doneski.. thank you  :wink:

No bother.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: raferackstraw on 17 May 2011, 19:10
ive got a spot light grill with spots i ll go and have a look and see if its ok, you would need to get the outer bits for it tho, btw its a 13 slat grill so dunno if it would fit your later rivage
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 May 2011, 22:45
ive got a spot light grill with spots i ll go and have a look and see if its ok, you would need to get the outer bits for it tho, btw its a 13 slat grill so dunno if it would fit your later rivage

It is different as my tintop is the reverse.  I have a later cabby 5 bar grille on mine.  I had to shave the clips off as they aren't the same as the 13 slat.

Sh*t, Guy, i'm starting to think that the spots fitment is different too thinking back to my standard white tintop I had with the same grille raferackstraw mentions!  let me think/check before you go buying the ones i emailed you about or accepting the above offer.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Wayne on 17 May 2011, 23:03
I think the later spots are different.  :undecided:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 May 2011, 23:50
I think the later spots are different.  :undecided:

They share fitment with a mk2 I think which now makes me wonder if cabbys spots are the same as mk2's its just older tin tops with 13 slat grilles that are different...

Sorry Guy..... we will get this right soon
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 May 2011, 01:53
Right.... Sorry for the constantly changing answers. This is final

Tin top MK1 GTI spots (which has 13 slat grille) do not fit 5 bar caddy grille (I have a slightly modded late cabby grille on mine)

Late Cabby Spots (on 5 bar grill) do not fit tintop 13 slat grille

Mk2 spots do not fit tintop 13 slat grille

Mk2 spots (on 7 bar grille????) DO fit Late 5 bar caddy but note the brackets are very slightly different, but they will fit.

Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 18 May 2011, 14:14
my brain hurts  :grin:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: JC on 18 May 2011, 18:57
whats up with yours anyway  :huh:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 18 May 2011, 20:33
whats up with yours anyway  :huh:

inners smoked, outers crystal.. its all a bag o'sh!te

need to make it all the same, either originals or crystals
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 May 2011, 21:50
whats up with yours anyway  :huh:

inners smoked, outers crystal.. its all a bag o'sh!te

need to make it all the same, either originals or crystals

Your spots are smoked crystals though aren't they?... you could always smoke the headlights to match.  :grin:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: raferackstraw on 18 May 2011, 23:12
personally i would go with originals and an uprated loom  :wink:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 19 May 2011, 13:45
personally i would go with originals and an uprated loom  :wink:

Love my loom!  :cool:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 19 May 2011, 20:26
personally i would go with originals and an uprated loom  :wink:

Love my loom!  :cool:

i get the feeling i need to do this  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 20 May 2011, 09:57
personally i would go with originals and an uprated loom  :wink:

Love my loom!  :cool:

i get the feeling i need to do this  :lipsrsealed:

Can help you out with this when you want to do it.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: Guy on 20 May 2011, 10:53
personally i would go with originals and an uprated loom  :wink:

Love my loom!  :cool:

i get the feeling i need to do this  :lipsrsealed:

Can help you out with this when you want to do it.

yes please!

just been looking at this...

http://www.swdubs.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12370 (http://www.swdubs.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12370)
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 23 May 2011, 15:17
That looks good, like the box for the relays.  Bit pricey though as the relays can be purchased for 99p upwards and the box cant cost that much, not sure how expensive the OEM connections were but I just used OEM from another loom.  Also cable varies in price depending on quality... The whole lot is not hard to make yourself if you really wanted to or get someone on here that might make it for you?.... I swear RJ made them for half the price of the above.
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: raferackstraw on 23 May 2011, 19:29
i got mine off ebay for 36quid which i consider a very good price, it didnt have a fancy ip66 box and it was one relay for headlights and one for spots plus fuses for each relay. the relays sit between battery and wing and are fine, in 3 yrs i have not had a problem with it, £75 is a bit of a pi1sstake. with mine iirc the only wires you cut are the ones which come from the stalk which control high/low beam 
Title: Re: will mk2 spotlights fit a mk1?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 May 2011, 09:19
i got mine off ebay for 36quid which i consider a very good price, it didnt have a fancy ip66 box and it was one relay for headlights and one for spots plus fuses for each relay. the relays sit between battery and wing and are fine, in 3 yrs i have not had a problem with it, £75 is a bit of a pi1sstake. with mine iirc the only wires you cut are the ones which come from the stalk which control high/low beam 

I have the same setup as the £75 ones except I made it it myself.... The relay holders are situated in the same place as yours, they have screw holes to screw them to something but I intend to box them off. There is a way of doing it without cutting any wires.  Didn't cut any on mine, the upgraded looms signal wires are plugged straight into the OEM loom (bulb end).  Should there be a total failure of the upgrade (which is pretty impossible) I have the option of just plugging the OEM plugs back into the headlight bulbs.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/HeadlightUpgrade3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/HeadlightUpgrade5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/HeadlightUpgrade6.jpg)

I suppose to finish it off I could buy a funky box for the relays but I have a plastic one that I got from Chris (orange MK2 VR6) which I intend to house them in eventually even though it's really not vital at all.