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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: nottyash on 13 May 2011, 19:12
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On my 2001 1.8T, and I have to say I am pretty impressed. :smiley:
Reason is they are a mile up the road where as RTECH are over 100 miles away. Also I know them and will get it cheap :grin:
I sorted the few problems I had with the breathers (now all silicone) changed the turbo Diverter vv for one off a 911 turbo, put on a new temp sender, thermostat, Pipercross air filter, fuel and oil filter, plugs, and Valvoline fully synthetic aswell as all 4 new discs and pads, and its going great.
I had a local lad who was actually going to write his own map for it, but he is waiting for software, where as this REVO one was available straight away so i thought I would give it a go.
It easily looses traction now where as it never before, the mid range performance is a lot better while the MPG is identical with normal driving.
Got to say it doesnt feel as fast as the Fabia VRS I had remapped by angel tuning, but that had masses more torque being a diesel, but a very small usable powerband. :shocked:
They said the proper map will be slightly better as its tweeked to the car, this is just a generic free map.
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I had a local lad who was actually going to write his own map for it, but he is waiting for software.
Your a braver man than me. Make sure this "local lad" knows what he is doing.
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I had a local lad who was actually going to write his own map for it, but he is waiting for software.
Your a braver man than me. Make sure this "local lad" knows what he is doing.
Yeh, he has a history of tuning race cars in Hungary, and i was going to let him have a go on mine, however it means him spending about £5k to get the right equipment, and as you say people are worried by small garages tweeking with ECUs, and rightly so. So its probably not worth the outlay for him.
Looks like I am going down the Revo route as angel tuning say an extra 40bhp, they dont differentiate between the 2 types of 150 1.8Ts available, and that worries me a bit.
this Revo map is supposed to be 209BHP. I doubt its that much.
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Revo have a history of exaggerating their remap claims. They said (Im not sure if they have changed it now) that a MK5 would get 260 with a remap . . . yeah right.
Non the less it will still transform the car, you'll love it :D
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Not quiet sure how REVO will "tweek" the map as they just load it on anyway, there's no "custom tuning" involved. Even tho you email your original map to them, surely all engine code maps are the same out of the factory so there will be no difference. The only difference you will get is if they map around problems that you already have, which is never a good route to go down.
But that said, REVO have got a very good reputation so you should have no problems there.
As for the Hungarian tuning wizard, i'd steer clear!
I did read that the free trial is only 80% so it may be slightly different with the full shebang!
Hope all goes well!
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As for the Hungarian tuning wizard, i'd steer clear!
So would I, can't stand whiney voiced Europeans.
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Will be interesting to see how this goes. :smiley:
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Well i drove it to work today (20 mile each way) and it was addictive. :smiley:
looks like ill have the proper one done next week.
I can opt to have a switch remote that i can have different settings on, so for instance a super unleaded map, which is where they get the 209bhp claim from, a map for unleaded, a normal standard map, and even a "valet" map which turns it down below standard to stop anyone ragging it in a service.
This feature also has an immobiliser, so even if someone stole the keys the car wont start. Really clever stuff.
its a mate of mine does the revo maps, and said it would be better than the free map as its tweeked on the car. He asked if i wanted it tuned for Super or normal unleaded. the free one is just a generic map.
:laugh:The Hungarian Wizard (love that) still doesnt have the gear to do it, and couldnt read the ECU so was after the new equipment.
As you all say i am probably better with a reknown company like revo anyway, especially now ive tried it :smiley:
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Not quiet sure how REVO will "tweek" the map as they just load it on anyway, there's no "custom tuning" involved. Even tho you email your original map to them, surely all engine code maps are the same out of the factory so there will be no difference. The only difference you will get is if they map around problems that you already have, which is never a good route to go down.
But that said, REVO have got a very good reputation so you should have no problems there.
As for the Hungarian tuning wizard, i'd steer clear!
I did read that the free trial is only 80% so it may be slightly different with the full shebang!
Hope all goes well!
Hi,
There is no emailing the map to Revo it is all on the laptop. You just choose your ECU from the list.
Its not a custom map but you are able to tweek Timing, boost and fuel. Its somwhere in between a custom and generic map. There is a scale of 1 to 9.
Your supposed to tweek and road test to enure there is no pinking. A custom map requires a rolling road.
At the end of the day,Revo have been around years, so I thought I would give them a go. :smiley:
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I had my gt tdi remapped by revo at gti international last year, to start with the map seemed good but i then became aware of how much turbo spike the map had. It was either all or nothing when driving the car, I turned the map off in the end as it actually made the car harder to drive low down in the revs. My friend also had his mk5 gti remapped by revo and as said they claim it has taken it to 260bhp, but my 225bhp leon cupra r isnt far behind his golf so that figure is aload of bull. He Had it rolling roaded a few weeks back, with a panel filter and miltek sports cat and cat back system, it acheived around the 245 bhp mark which seems abit crap to me as a cupra r will remap to 250bhp standard providing everything is as it should be.
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He Had it rolling roaded a few weeks back, with a panel filter and miltek sports cat and cat back system, it acheived around the 245 bhp mark which seems abit crap to me as a cupra r will remap to 250bhp standard providing everything is as it should be.
Thats to be expected. Mine has an R-Tech remap with the same setup as him (although mines full turbo back) and I got the same bhp reading (my remap was done before the panel filter and Milltek so I could probably get more, just need to head back to R-Tech at some point in time). Thats just what they remap to, why Revo feel the need to lie and say 260 is beyond me.
As for the Cupra R comment. They come with a larger KO4 turbo (MK5 GTI has a KO3s turbo) so will remap to a higher bhp.
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Yea they certainly do big up the remaps at revo, Wont be getting the cupra done there, either be swict remap or a r-tech job i think :evil:
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they claim it has taken it to 260bhp, but my 225bhp leon cupra r isnt far behind his golf so that figure is aload of bull.
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Not necessarily a load of bull. People seem to think that a bhp figure is what they'll get. It depends on where in the rev range it is, where the peak power is, how responsive the engine is on getting there. Your 225bhp may just be more consistant and in a better place, could be to do with tourque too, his 260bhp may be at the end of the scale and he's just not got there yet.
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all the mk5 Revo boys were severely disappointed at JKM when we had an RR day a few years ago :lipsrsealed:
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It seems to me people who have or have used Rtech are a bit biased. :grin:
This remap isnt all or nothing, looking at the graph its very linear and actually gives a longer span of power all through the rev range compared to a standard car, its just what I am after and pretty much suits the car.
The problem is getting traction as it scrabbles a bit....or a lot if its damp. Really needs an LSD like my Type R EK9 had.
I am not after lowering or changing the car though, nor do I want to own the fastest Golf out there. I want it to look standard and be a lot of fun as its my third car :nerd:
I had a Standard MR2 rev 3 turbo that was 245BHP when my brother had a 210bhp Leon Cupra R, the extra BHP never made me fly past him, yes i was faster but when you have that power you need a lot more to get much faster.
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Very true, alot of people seem to think that a given BHP (peak power) value means they are faster. Infact RTec have a thread going at the moment where they proved that a car with less BHP is quicker than a particular one with more BHP.
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It seems to me people who have or have used Rtech are a bit biased. :grin:
This remap isnt all or nothing, looking at the graph its very linear and actually gives a longer span of power all through the rev range compared to a standard car, its just what I am after and pretty much suits the car.
The problem is getting traction as it scrabbles a bit....or a lot if its damp. Really needs an LSD like my Type R EK9 had.
I am not after lowering or changing the car though, nor do I want to own the fastest Golf out there. I want it to look standard and be a lot of fun as its my third car :nerd:
I had a Standard MR2 rev 3 turbo that was 245BHP when my brother had a 210bhp Leon Cupra R, the extra BHP never made me fly past him, yes i was faster but when you have that power you need a lot more to get much faster.
mr2 is in a different ball game though, mid engined rear wheel drive vs a fwd hatchback is a bit unfair. would have mine back in a heartbeat if i could live with 2 seats
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It seems to me people who have or have used Rtech are a bit biased. :grin:
I'm just going on what I saw on the day mate, I didn't have an R-Tech map on mine back then either
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It seems to me people who have or have used Rtech are a bit biased. :grin:
I never knocked the Revo map, mearly said that it will never make 260. My R-Tech will also never make 260.
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I would honestly say that my revo remap on my gt tdi was Crap, Previous to that i had an octavia vrs, had it remapped by swict and was a much better/smooth map imo. There petrol maps may be better than there tdi ones :huh:
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my revo has been fine, espesh for the price :rolleyes: