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Title: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 13:36
Hi,

I know there's heaps of stuff in the search on this but after sifting through tones of it I couldn't quite get the answers I needed...

Will a 280mm Corrado VR6 caliper and carrier, pads and disc set up fit my big bumper 16v Golf GTI?

I know the discs are 5x100 so they wont fit, so I'll have to get hold of some 280mm 4x100 G60 discs

Also, will it fit under my BBS RA's?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: Wayne on 12 May 2011, 13:38
Nope I believe the offset of the discs is all wrong.

You will need 15" wheels
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 13:55
Oh poo. So the 280mm VR6 Corrado calipers and carriers are different to the pre-96 Mk3 Golf VR6 calipers??

My BBS RA's are 15" - so they should be ok with a 280mm set up?

Thanks
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: dashey on 12 May 2011, 14:20
The corrado discs will go straight on mate i duno if your wheels will take the size only one way to find out i suppose
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: dashey on 12 May 2011, 14:22
With vr6 callipers they are easier to get hold of and basiclly the same as the g60
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 14:36
Will I need to drill new holes in the Corrado 5x100 discs to make them fit my 4x100 hubs?

So it sounds like everything from the Corrado VR6 will fit then (bar me having to drill new holes in the discs)

Great thanks!
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 12 May 2011, 14:42
Oh poo. So the 280mm VR6 Corrado calipers and carriers are different to the pre-96 Mk3 Golf VR6 calipers??

My BBS RA's are 15" - so they should be ok with a 280mm set up?

Thanks

not true. If you want to keep your RA's you'll have to use golf 16v callipers with 280 carriers and modify the slide pins
and use the 16v pads which are thinner

i've got the hybrid set up on mine - carriers came from a mk3 golf.

need to remove 3mm from slides - acess to a  lathe is very helpful
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 12 May 2011, 14:43
Oh poo. So the 280mm VR6 Corrado calipers and carriers are different to the pre-96 Mk3 Golf VR6 calipers??

My BBS RA's are 15" - so they should be ok with a 280mm set up?

Thanks

not true. If you want to keep your RA's you'll have to use golf 16v callipers with 280 carriers and modify the slide pins
and use the 16v pads which are thinner

i've got the hybrid set up on mine - carriers came from a mk3 golf.

need to remove 3mm from slides - acess to a  lathe is very helpful


once all modifed they fill the wheels and stop really well.
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: emery1990 on 12 May 2011, 15:15
280's fit in my 15" bbs's ?
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 15:23
Is it the 288mm set up that need grinding back then?

Still confused! :)

I'm hoping it'll all just fit without needing any mods! (Apart from 4x100 holes).

Thanks
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 12 May 2011, 15:36
280's fit in my 15" bbs's ?

are they RA's?? (not big nuts)

I have original fit Ra's and there is only 2mm clearance to calliper.
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: dashey on 12 May 2011, 15:57
You dont need to drill no holes the g60 are already 4x100
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 15:58
280's fit in my 15" bbs's ?

are they RA's?? (not big nuts)

I have original fit Ra's and there is only 2mm clearance to calliper.

2mm clearance on a 280mm upgrade or standard 256mm?
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 15:59
You dont need to drill no holes the g60 are already 4x100

They aren't G60 discs, they are 280mm VR6 5x100 Corrado disks.

Thanks
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: dashey on 12 May 2011, 16:00
Where the hell did i read g60 then, my apolagies
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 16:13
No worries ;)

Still not really any the wiser.

Any more advise/experience really appreciated.
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 12 May 2011, 16:20
280's fit in my 15" bbs's ?

are they RA's?? (not big nuts)

I have original fit Ra's and there is only 2mm clearance to calliper.

2mm clearance on a 280mm upgrade or standard 256mm?

i converted my 256 to 280 but wanted to keep std wheels
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 16:31
280's fit in my 15" bbs's ?

are they RA's?? (not big nuts)

I have original fit Ra's and there is only 2mm clearance to calliper.

2mm clearance on a 280mm upgrade or standard 256mm?

i converted my 256 to 280 but wanted to keep std wheels

Me too!

What's your set up then?

VR6 280mm calipers and carriers + G60 discs?

thanks
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 12 May 2011, 16:42
it was very confusing

you need 280mm carriers from a pre 95 car or hubs are drfferent.

280mm disks - i bought G60 ones from vwspares.co.uk

std 16v pads and used std callipers. You will need to modify the slide pins. The first set i used angle grinder
but then did another set in workshop at work when i got sizes right.

it's about 3mm you need to remove - easy with a lathe.
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 12 May 2011, 16:49
So why wont the 280mm calipers fit?

I'm sure I've read plenty of posts in the past saying they do fit.

Which part of the alloy do they hit?
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 13 May 2011, 06:57
The G60 and Mk3 have a wider calliper hence bigger pads

they will foul the back of wheel. It's due to offset of the std RA's

I can only tell you of my troubles
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 07:14
F*ck me you lot are making this complicated.

Take the whole hub assembly from a 280mm equipped 4X100 car and bolt it up.

Should be fine with OEM 15" rims.

Won't need any grinding or cutting back with a lathe.

Cars you should be looking for in the scrappers are TDI SEATs, Passat3s and other bigger VAG group stuff which is still running 4X100.

This kit just bolts up, no titting about making it fit.

You will need the 22mm master cylinder to keep the pedal travel right, if you're coming from 239mm set up.
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 13 May 2011, 10:15
Well despite the advice, I've got myself a 5x100 280mm set up (read your post Diamond Hell after buying it lol).

The kit comes from:
Corrado 1993 VR6
and includes:
Front 280mm calipers and carriers
hoses (braided)
5x100 stud 280mm discs
+ pads

I'm using 15" BBS RA's with 10mm spacers each side (hoping spacers might help if things are tight!)

I'll take a look when it arrives and post back with my findings.

Thanks everyone
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 10:28
You may just need the 4X100 hubs to get that to fit with 4X100 280mm rotors.

Potentially furking expensive way to find out though!
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 13 May 2011, 11:50
in may case.......


had 256mm already. Got some 280mm carriers from a mk3. Kept original callipers
but needed to mod slide pins to make them fit.

bought 280mm (4x100) discs and a new set of 16v pads
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 13 May 2011, 16:35
You may just need the 4X100 hubs to get that to fit with 4X100 280mm rotors.

Potentially furking expensive way to find out though!

My hubs are standard 4x100 16v GTI hubs.  I was planning on drilling 4x100 holes in the 5x100 Corrado 280mm disks to get them to fit  :grin:
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: Wayne on 14 May 2011, 09:27
You may just need the 4X100 hubs to get that to fit with 4X100 280mm rotors.

Potentially furking expensive way to find out though!

My hubs are standard 4x100 16v GTI hubs.  I was planning on drilling 4x100 holes in the 5x100 Corrado 280mm disks to get them to fit  :grin:

I don't think that will work as you have not got enough metal as such :undecided:
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: Simeon on 14 May 2011, 17:04
F*ck me you lot are making this complicated.

Agreed :shocked:

My hubs are standard 4x100 16v GTI hubs.  I was planning on drilling 4x100 holes in the 5x100 Corrado 280mm disks to get them to fit  :grin:

Why are you redrilling discs? Buy some 4x100 280mm discs and fit them to your 16v hubs. Over these fit your calipers. How did this get to 3 pages?
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: danny_p on 14 May 2011, 19:12
you lot should think outside the box a littel bit more

there is a 280mm 4x100 disk that is the correct offset to work with mk3 golf / corrado  brake caliper and carriers,  but it's not vw
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: fishnchipsx2 on 15 May 2011, 14:39
As Danny said! This might help you http://bremboaftermarket.com/En/Car_Disc_Catalogue/Catalogue_Search.aspx (http://bremboaftermarket.com/En/Car_Disc_Catalogue/Catalogue_Search.aspx)
Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: RossyB108 on 24 May 2011, 13:57
Just to give an update.

The Corrado V6 280mm carrier and calipers fitted straight on my Golf 16v hubs but do in fact foul the front/spokes of my 15" BBS RA's.  Luckily my 10mm wheel spacers sorted that problem.

The Corrado 280mm discs do not fit though as the offset is out (just as many of you have suggested), so even if I drilled the 4x100 stud pattern it's a no go for the discs.

So I'm going to order a pair of G60 280mm 4x100 discs to go on shortly and I'm all 280'd up!

Thanks everyone

Title: Re: 280mm brake conversion - confussed!
Post by: sprout99 on 24 May 2011, 13:59
Just to give an update.

The Corrado V6 280mm carrier and calipers fitted straight on my Golf 16v hubs but do in fact foul the front/spokes of my 15" BBS RA's.  Luckily my 10mm wheel spacers sorted that problem.

The Corrado 280mm discs do not fit though as the offset is out (just as many of you have suggested), so even if I drilled the 4x100 stud pattern it's a no go for the discs.

So I'm going to order a pair of G60 280mm 4x100 discs to go on shortly and I'm all 280'd up!

Thanks everyone





yup - that's why i used std calliper and modified the slide pins to allow the 16v calliper to fit 280mm carrier

glad you sorted now