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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 02:58

Title: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 02:58
Anyone know where you can buy a Sub box that fits under the speaker shelf in the boot...

Been offered some New custom builds on ED38 but the guy is a complete "Tool" and wants £175.00 for the sub box and £125. for a stowage compartment on the drivers side... When I asked what I got for the money other than a wooden box with some carpet on it - He took the huff... What a PLANK!!

Fed up with the sub getting in the way in the boot...
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: russ-vdub on 12 May 2011, 10:34
Mate to be fair its not an easy job and takes a lot of time to get right. If you wana save pennies build one yourself, i personally wouldnt sell one for less than £125 if i made them.
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Sam on 12 May 2011, 10:39
To be fair if you have made one that fits well its a peice of piss to knock loads more out as you have the template
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 10:43
Mate to be fair its not an easy job and takes a lot of time to get right. If you wana save pennies build one yourself, i personally wouldnt sell one for less than £125 if i made them.

Not looking to save a few pennies... Just wanted to know what I get for the money... Not an unreasonable request.. For all I know it could be a shaped plank of driftwood with a bit of carpet on it... This bloke is supposed to be in Business selling these items - so should be used to being asked questions from potential customers...

It's not rocket science at the end of the day..
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 10:45
To be fair if you have made one that fits well its a peice of piss to knock loads more out as you have the template

Agreed...
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Lewy on 12 May 2011, 12:16
I 'think' I know the gentleman in question, and if you have a look at JV's Rallye thread you will see the quality of the builds he does.

It can be seen as quite expensive, but when I had my old Mk2 done by Sextons in Reading, it was hell of a lot more than the prices he has quoted you.
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 12:32
I 'think' I know the gentleman in question, and if you have a look at JV's Rallye thread you will see the quality of the builds he does.

It can be seen as quite expensive, but when I had my old Mk2 done by Sextons in Reading, it was hell of a lot more than the prices he has quoted you.

I have no problem with paying the money - When I know what I'm getting... God knows how he keeps a business going with his attitude... Hence why I'm now looking for someone else's products or failing that I will make my own...
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: mk2bal on 12 May 2011, 17:18
What do you expect him to say? 'Its made of wood, glue, carpet, speaker terminals, maybe some tails inside to connect to sub'? I'd say the clue is in 'carpeted sub box to fit mk2'
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 17:25
What do you expect him to say? 'Its made of wood, glue, carpet, speaker terminals, maybe some tails inside to connect to sub'? I'd say the clue is in 'carpeted sub box to fit mk2'

Don't be so obtuse...  :rolleyes:

Of course I have an idea of what it "could" made of - I'm not a complete pillock... But for £300.00 I wanted more info - as I said it's not much to ask...

It could have been made of Fibreglass with an MDF front, All MDF, or it could be just a plank with a fecking hole in it that covers the gap....
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: mk2bal on 12 May 2011, 20:32
Chill winston! Was only having a laugh!
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 21:44
Chill winston! Was only having a laugh!

Didn't come across as funny at all... :tongue:
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Mr Blue on 12 May 2011, 21:50
The same guy built mine. Quality is good.

I made one and gave up. Really couldnt be bothered! Sounded rubbish and for the headache and materials it wasnt worth it for me.

(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww170/golfgti_photos/09042011238.jpg)


Sounds awesome!  :cool: Hidden the amp in the rear quater panel also.
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 12 May 2011, 22:02
The same guy built mine. Quality was ok but did have a problem with the shallow kenwood I asked for (none in stock) but was supplied with a JL instead.

I made one and gave up. Really couldnt be bothered! Sounded rubbish and for the headache and materials it wasnt worth it for me.

Sounds awesome!  :cool: Hidden the amp in the rear quater panel also.

Looks good I was really after one that doesn't encroach quite so much into the boot - Bit like this one;

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/aquablue27/My%20car%20thread%20pics/IMG_8175AM.jpg)

and I was looking at mounting the amp on the other side, but behind rear panel is also an option I hadn't thought about...

Just a pity he was/is such a "Tool"
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Mr Blue on 12 May 2011, 23:22
Will all depend on the subwoofer and box capacity. Overall i'm happy with mine. cant fault the sub box and its someones time :smiley:

The 10'' JL supplied blows my 12 top end pioneer away. (timer delay on the amp ftw) :cool:

Mounted the amp like so and does the job!

(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww170/golfgti_photos/09042011236.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: dubber36 on 13 May 2011, 08:39

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/aquablue27/My%20car%20thread%20pics/IMG_8175AM.jpg)


The main problem that I can see with that, and the other one pictured, is that you can't easily get to the boot light switch. If I leave mine for any amount of time, I like to pull the wire off the back of it, so that I can be 100% sure that the light has turned off.  :grin:
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 13 May 2011, 10:59
I was considering doing something like this (Not In Blue) and carpeting the back of the parcel shelf and wiring it up to a Micro Switch that will light it up when the boot is opened...

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/aquablue27/My%20car%20thread%20pics/IMG_7938AM.jpg)

and losing the silly rear light under the shelf completely...
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Dubster2 on 13 May 2011, 11:49
I was considering doing something like this (Not In Blue) and carpeting the back of the parcel shelf and wiring it up to a Micro Switch that will light it up when the boot is opened...

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/aquablue27/My%20car%20thread%20pics/IMG_7938AM.jpg)

and losing the silly rear light under the shelf completely...


It's not actually a blue light-it's an white LED light strip, but it's hard to take the photo at night with night-light and get it looking right. With LED lighting if it gets left on somehow, it won't drain the battery and I bought a special connector that you can just see against the back of the rear seat so it's easy when I want to remove the rear shelf.
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 13 May 2011, 12:17
Did wonder if it was just the light but you also have the ED1 blue shelves etc...

I have seen the connector - Been using your car as inspiration to do mine...

Who did your Bass Box and what light strip & Connector did you use... If you can remember?

Love the car BTW!!
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 13 May 2011, 14:23
I'm gonna have to re-think my original idea... Just had a look at my boot and realised that I have the First Aid Bracket & Kit on the Passenger side... so it will have to be the Drivers side that I use - But didn't notice before that the usable space is smaller due to the filler for the petrol tank... Darn!!

Also just ordered one of these; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120722386715 - for under the parcel shelf.... Gonna now look for a suitable connector for it so it's easy to remove the parcel shelf when needed...
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Dubster2 on 13 May 2011, 15:46
I'm gonna have to re-think my original idea... Just had a look at my boot and realised that I have the First Aid Bracket & Kit on the Passenger side... so it will have to be the Drivers side that I use - But didn't notice before that the usable space is smaller due to the filler for the petrol tank... Darn!!

Also just ordered one of these; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120722386715 - for under the parcel shelf.... Gonna now look for a suitable connector for it so it's easy to remove the parcel shelf when needed...

Yeah, I had the first aid kit there too, but can't really put the sub box the other side as not enough depth for the sub.

I originally had an Audioscape sub box that I bought 2nd hand, but when I found the 7x5 rear shelf speakers hit the top of the box, I got another one the same made, but with a lower top. Was around £150-180, can't rightly remember. Ken at Awesome Automotive in Colchester, Essex made it: http://autobahn25.com/forums/index.php?/forum/118-awesome-automotive-official-website/?s=ff96c8a42d88cb00892e1e96c3eb6f51
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: beechymonza on 13 May 2011, 23:09
Im gunna mek me summat like that, Now i ay gotta get the pushchair in an out  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 30 June 2011, 23:35
Thanks Mr Blue For the Idea.....

Spent the last two nights messing with my old girl.... Got fed up fixing other peeps cars - mainly my sons as he has done a big bumper conversion with side trims & replaced his rocker cover gasket etc etc etc....

Rear Turrets now overlaid with the earlier Carpet Covers from a Valver That I'm breaking at the mo... Nothing major I just think they look better & I was upgrading the parcel shelves with better ones so made sense to do it all at once....

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Rear-carpets-2.jpg)

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Rear-carpets.jpg)

Whilst doing this I noted that Stevie Wonder had wired in the Amp - so decided to tidy it up and put it where the OEM Loom is - Under the carpet properly... But then had the notion to do what Mr Blue suggested with hiding the Amp behind the rear Door card... So thought I'll have a bash...

Door Card Off...
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Pre-amp.jpg)

Amp Bracket;
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Amp-holder.jpg)

Amp On Bracket;
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Amp-holder-2.jpg)

Bracket Fitted;
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Amp-fitted-2.jpg)
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Amp-fitted.jpg)

Door Card Refitted - PITA...;
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Rear-amp-fitted-3.jpg)
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Rear-amp-fitted-2.jpg)

Rear Seat Fitted;
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/Rear-seat-amp-fitted.jpg)

Seat Bolts Fitted;
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/LeS2Audi/Red%20Golf%20GTi/bolt-covers.jpg)


Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: tech1889 on 01 July 2011, 10:34
Thats a wicked idea mate.. shame you cant put a sub in such a place..
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: dragonfly on 01 July 2011, 11:56
Hiding amps in the rear quarter is actually an old idea but not carried out much.  There is no issues with heat. Keeps the install neat and stealth.
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: logeyboy on 01 July 2011, 12:39
Thats a wicked idea mate.. shame you cant put a sub in such a place..

Been done...

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148217.0

 :smiley:

Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 01 July 2011, 12:59
Thats a wicked idea mate.. shame you cant put a sub in such a place..

Been done...

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148217.0

 :smiley:


Did he sort out the problem with it resonating?
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Mr Blue on 01 July 2011, 13:09
awesome sub encloser! Ive always wanted 2 subs per side. I think a ported enclosure would work. With the port angled towards the boot as there is a gap for the air to escape into the boot. :smiley:

Ive now mounted my other alpine amp in the other rear quater for the front speakers. You must amp your front speakers.

Nice work X4MGS :smiley:
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: X4MGS on 01 July 2011, 13:23
awesome sub encloser! Ive always wanted 2 subs per side. I think a ported enclosure would work. With the port angled towards the boot as there is a gap for the air to escape into the boot. :smiley:

Ive now mounted my other alpine amp in the other rear quater for the front speakers. You must amp your front speakers.

Nice work X4MGS :smiley:

I'm happy with it as it is for now... Would still like to get a box mounted under the rear shelf - will have to talk nicely to me Mums partner as he's a chippy by trade...

Thanks for the idea...  :smug:
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Benrevs on 04 July 2011, 19:13
Here is mine, the pic is shoddy and the boot is dirty but hey you get the idea!  It is a fibreglass mold behind, mounted on mdf and io have pretty much the same amount of boot space as before! i have build pics if required  :wink:

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/benrevs/04052011141.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: russ-vdub on 11 July 2011, 16:21
^SPL X - You badman!
Title: Re: Wheel Arch Sub Boxes
Post by: Benrevs on 11 July 2011, 22:21
That sub has been knocking around for around 8 years now, my mate gave it to me! Has stood the test of time  :grin: