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General => The garage => Topic started by: Rhyso on 11 May 2011, 10:10
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As some you know my Aldi has the 170 PD TDI engine fitted with that wondrous invention called the DPF (diesel particulate filter)
After nearly a year of ownership its time to start looking in getting more power out of the engine......
Looking around very few companies offer anything for the engine due to its well known problems with DPF's and the associated sensors failing.
Anyone got any suggestions?? If you do DO NOT recommend Custom Code to me. Been there, done that :lipsrsealed:
Ta :smiley:
EDIT - meant to add that I'm just looking for a remap intially as there seems to be some confusion over whether or not it will be a legal requirement to have the DPF in place; though my understanding is you can't enforce MOT changes on older cars, only newer ones?? :undecided:
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We can offer the DPF mapping, which means the ecu comes out to read the full code areas, the map will go back on the the ecu with a patch which changes the DPF regen settings and a higher dct offset for the front and back pressues sensor thresholds. Once the ecu have been mapped and patched you can then run the car with out the DPF filter, with 2 options 1) use the oem dpf pipes and remove the filter core, or 2) get a bespoke DPF delete system and sell your house.
Even on the stock mapping there are many cases of DPF issues, VW even detuned some of the early 170TDi to arounf 150bhp via a software update to stop all the warranty claims realted to DPF.
I just been on the MoT tester PC:
The only way a car will fail is (TDI) that the smoke test reading is over 3.00m2, or there is visual dense blue or black smoke for all car 1979 onwards. Nothing in the current MOT guide lines about cars with DPF or CATs, but there is talk of new MOT emission regs next year, maybe a lower threshold of 2.00m2 or 2.5m2 or/ and viusal inspection of oem cat or DPF. Which means if your mot tester aint a c@ck your car will pass every MOT.
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Howdy
What do you reckon is the best way forward?? Gutting the DPF or getting the Milltek delete pipe?? :undecided:
I've read about the engine being tuned but from what I can gather its detuned in 1st and 2nd gears and re-programmed to regenerate the DPF more often :undecided:
Have you had any 170's on the rollers after the update from VW / Audi?
Thanks for the info on the MOT :nerd:
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Surely buying the delete pipe would be better no ??
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Surely buying the delete pipe would be better no ??
That's what I'm asking...... :rolleyes:
I've heard two sides of the coin
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Hello,
We have been refusing to tune all VAG with DPF systems fitted, we have done many BMW with out issues, but VAG because of all the issues we have decided to steer well away. Even with the tuners so called DPF fault mapping out there is still many customer having costly DPF issues.
The problem with the DPF delete is one price, then if the MOT law changes and the test include visaul inspections then you could fail.
Gut it :wink:
Nick
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Hi,
We recommend That you swap your DPF for a bypass pipe, this is because if legislation changes to more than a visual inspection you will be snookered as the contents of your DPF will be at the bottom of a landfill site.
The bypass pipes cost between £210 and £400, if you have a car that we can't buy an off the shelf item for we have an exceptionally gifted exhaust contractor that will make you a truly custom DPF bypass pipe. The cost would be between £80 to £400, the cost for removing your old DPF and fitting your new one by our contractor is around £50.
We can also have your DPF insides knocked out one of our local contractors if you're not concerned about the above of course at a cost of around £100 including the removal and reinstall.
Once the DPF is removed the car should see 210 bhp and 325 lbft of torque, the cost is for the mapping including the DPF remove is £375 less our current introductory forum discount of £100 plus a £10 donation to the site so total software cost is £285.
Regards
Craig
Modified to make it a little easier to read, damn this iPad :grin:
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Hi,
We recommend That you swap your DPF for a bypass pipe, this is because if legislation changes to more than a visual inspection you will be snookered as the contents of your DPF will be at the bottom of a landfill site. The bypass pipes cost between £210 and £400, if you have a car that needed we have an exceptionally gifted exhaust maker that will make you a truly custom DPF bypass pipe, the cost for removing your old DPF is around £50.
We can also have your DPF insides knocked out one of our local contractors if you're not concerned about the above of course at a cost of around £100 including the removal and reinstall.
Once the DPF is removed the car should see 210 bhp and 325 lbft of torque, the cost is for the mapping including the DPF remove is £375 less our current introductory forum discount of £100.
Regards
Craig
Interesting stuff :nerd:
Hurry up Rhys :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Hi,
We recommend That you swap your DPF for a bypass pipe, this is because if legislation changes to more than a visual inspection you will be snookered as the contents of your DPF will be at the bottom of a landfill site. The bypass pipes cost between £210 and £400, if you have a car that needed we have an exceptionally gifted exhaust maker that will make you a truly custom DPF bypass pipe, the cost for removing your old DPF is around £50.
We can also have your DPF insides knocked out one of our local contractors if you're not concerned about the above of course at a cost of around £100 including the removal and reinstall.
Once the DPF is removed the car should see 210 bhp and 325 lbft of torque, the cost is for the mapping including the DPF remove is £375 less our current introductory forum discount of £100.
Regards
Craig
Interesting stuff :nerd:
Hurry up Rhys :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:evil:
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Hi,
We recommend That you swap your DPF for a bypass pipe, this is because if legislation changes to more than a visual inspection you will be snookered as the contents of your DPF will be at the bottom of a landfill site. The bypass pipes cost between £210 and £400, if you have a car that needed we have an exceptionally gifted exhaust maker that will make you a truly custom DPF bypass pipe, the cost for removing your old DPF is around £50.
We can also have your DPF insides knocked out one of our local contractors if you're not concerned about the above of course at a cost of around £100 including the removal and reinstall.
Once the DPF is removed the car should see 210 bhp and 325 lbft of torque, the cost is for the mapping including the DPF remove is £375 less our current introductory forum discount of £100.
Regards
Craig
Interesting stuff :nerd:
Hurry up Rhys :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Needs to save up first, and read his PM's too :lipsrsealed: :kiss:
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Hi,
We recommend That you swap your DPF for a bypass pipe, this is because if legislation changes to more than a visual inspection you will be snookered as the contents of your DPF will be at the bottom of a landfill site. The bypass pipes cost between £210 and £400, if you have a car that needed we have an exceptionally gifted exhaust maker that will make you a truly custom DPF bypass pipe, the cost for removing your old DPF is around £50.
We can also have your DPF insides knocked out one of our local contractors if you're not concerned about the above of course at a cost of around £100 including the removal and reinstall.
Once the DPF is removed the car should see 210 bhp and 325 lbft of torque, the cost is for the mapping including the DPF remove is £375 less our current introductory forum discount of £100.
Regards
Craig
Interesting stuff :nerd:
Hurry up Rhys :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Needs to save up first, and read his PM's too :lipsrsealed: :kiss:
All donations greatly received :tongue:
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Hi,
We recommend That you swap your DPF for a bypass pipe, this is because if legislation changes to more than a visual inspection you will be snookered as the contents of your DPF will be at the bottom of a landfill site. The bypass pipes cost between £210 and £400, if you have a car that needed we have an exceptionally gifted exhaust maker that will make you a truly custom DPF bypass pipe, the cost for removing your old DPF is around £50.
We can also have your DPF insides knocked out one of our local contractors if you're not concerned about the above of course at a cost of around £100 including the removal and reinstall.
Once the DPF is removed the car should see 210 bhp and 325 lbft of torque, the cost is for the mapping including the DPF remove is £375 less our current introductory forum discount of £100.
Regards
Craig
Interesting stuff :nerd:
Hurry up Rhys :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Needs to save up first, and read his PM's too :lipsrsealed: :kiss:
All donations greatly received :tongue:
Ditto, need funds for the roadtrip too :wink:
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no point mapping it your'll only end up with problems...just like the golf :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
thought you wanted a car that was prefect out the box? since buying the aldi you've spent loads :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
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no point mapping it your'll only end up with problems...just like the golf :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
thought you wanted a car that was prefect out the box? since buying the aldi you've spent loads :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
+1 So many people across the UK having issues with DPF VAGs.
Nick
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
We are working on a 2010 170 skoda dpf system tomorrow, I will let you know the results in 4 - 5 months time. Another tuner already mapped it but caused issues related to the dpf within 3 months. This is going to be a development car.
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
Ideal :cool: Goes like fook eh? :evil:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
Ideal :cool: Goes like fook eh? :evil:
Lets say she makes progress.............. :evil:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
Ideal :cool: Goes like fook eh? :evil:
Lets say she makes progress.............. :evil:
Spin please on next meet :evil:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
Ideal :cool: Goes like fook eh? :evil:
Lets say she makes progress.............. :evil:
Spin please on next meet :evil:
Get your backside to Castle Combe next weekend then :tongue:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
Ideal :cool: Goes like fook eh? :evil:
Lets say she makes progress.............. :evil:
Spin please on next meet :evil:
Get your backside to Castle Combe next weekend then :tongue:
Ah is that next week :shocked: i may be free....... :evil:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
Done 1200 miles on mine now and so far no problems to report............
Ideal :cool: Goes like fook eh? :evil:
Lets say she makes progress.............. :evil:
Spin please on next meet :evil:
Get your backside to Castle Combe next weekend then :tongue:
Ah is that next week :shocked: i may be free....... :evil:
Well your name is on the stand list now so you better show up :tongue: :wink: :grin: :grin:
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I will be there :afro:
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I will be there :afro:
Cool :cool:
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sorry to bring up an old thread but im looking at getting a 170 Octavia Vrs, is it best to not bother with a remap then? kinda got lost reading about bypass pipes and DPF's :laugh:
It's always worth mapping these cars and we can offer a solution tailored to your needs with or without a DPF delete pipe.
What engine are you looking for CR or PD and approx age?
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If the DPF is healthy and regenerating without issue then you can leave the DPF ON and tune it within the regen cycle capabilities... if its weak and as long as there are no ECU errors for DPF (this bit is key as the errors are logged in a seperate part of the ECU and notoriously difficult to remove once the DPF fails) then you can remove DPF, install a bypass pipe and successfully map out the DPF, EGT sensors etc and make better power.
If you're installing a bypass pipe, ensure it's a decent quality item with flange connectors. I've seen everything from chop shop rubbish to some numpty even 'smashing' his DPF through (and destroying the EGT sensor in the process, and pushing the crap back into the turbo)!!
If you're going to do something like this, do it right first time.
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Results with the DPF firmly in place
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Audi%20A3/195.gif)
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Results with the DPF firmly in place
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Audi%20A3/195.gif)
Where it's staying too :wink:
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Results with the DPF firmly in place
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Audi%20A3/195.gif)
Where it's staying too :wink:
Is it?? :tongue:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/OY57UTM.gif)
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Sssslag :grin:
I told you those ECU's are odd and take f a r too long to learn and adapt :lipsrsealed:
Seriously though that's a lovely smooth power curve for a 170 mate :wink:
Are you sure don't want it turning down a little?
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Sssslag :grin:
I told you those ECU's are odd and take f a r too long to learn and adapt :lipsrsealed:
Seriously though that's a lovely smooth power curve for a 170 mate :wink:
Are you sure don't want it turning down a little?
Why!? :laugh: :laugh: I've got (roughly) more power at the wheels than I had at the FLY on the Goof :evil:
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pop.......
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pop.......
Don't sh1t him up :grin:
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pop.......
Don't sh1t him up :grin:
I'm into killing other people's turbo's now so they can feel the pain :evil: :grin: :grin:
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pop.......
Don't sh1t him up :grin:
I'm into killing other people's turbo's now so they can feel the pain :evil: :grin: :grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUUmp4rELOw
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pop.......
Don't sh1t him up :grin:
I'm into killing other people's turbo's now so they can feel the pain :evil: :grin: :grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUUmp4rELOw
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