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Title: windscreen removal
Post by: mk2_abf on 07 May 2011, 19:42
Has anyone got tips on best way to take my windsreen out of my mk2 thanks
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Thom89 on 07 May 2011, 20:16
Outside of car, run a blunt screwdriver around the edge of the rubber where it meets the body, then again, where the rubber meets the glass, this will loosen the glass as much as possible prior to removal...
Inside the car, Use a wide flat blade screwdriver to gently feed the lip of the rubber under the edge of the body, a second screwdriver may be required to help get started, once you get the knack, take your time!! remember that a front screen is laminated, and will crack with virtually no force at all... you only need to feed the top, and both sides, the bottom edge will release itself...

Thom
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: mk2_abf on 07 May 2011, 20:34
Thanks will have a bash at it next week
got this to sort hope its not too bad
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5027/5687240545_0c57642772.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62480079@N06/5687240545/)
IMG_0071 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62480079@N06/5687240545/) by mk2abf (http://www.flickr.com/people/62480079@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: oakgreengolf on 07 May 2011, 20:49
Bottom edges are usually bad too
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Neo Badness on 07 May 2011, 21:18
As Thom says, take your time.

It's even better if you have fully comp insurance too :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Nige on 08 May 2011, 19:01
lay on your back and push carefully at the top of the screen, starting near the corner with your FEET. you can see the rubber slowly moving and you work your way along the top and the screen just lifts out !
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_0449.jpg)

Here is my guide for removal / refitting of the Windscreen, side and rear windows.

I`ve read many people say you need a bit of string, 2 people and some washing up liquid to change a window / windscreen, I`d never done it before, but it was suprisingly easy..I did the guide for a rear quarter window, its exactly the same principal for the rear screen and windscreen, but as they need 2 hands, I couldnt hold the camera aswell   

To remove the old window, simply press firmly on one corner and maintain the pressure,
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1245800x600.jpg)

you will SLOWLY see the rubber start to `unfurl` and loosen its hold on the glass
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1246800x600.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1247800x600.jpg)

Maintaining pressure move your hand along the glass and allow the rubber to unfold at its own speen, DO NOT FORCE IT, it will take time.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1250800x600.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1249800x600.jpg)

When the top edge is complete, the screen will `fall out`, have the second person take the weight, allow the rubber to unfurl down the edges and lift out the glass
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1251800x600.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1253800x600.jpg)

Lift the glass clear and place to one side
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1254800x600.jpg)

REFITTING

Using a length of STRONG twine, press it into the rubber, where the metal will eventually sit, I used a flat bladed screwdriver to push the string to the bottom and to aid fitting, dragging the screwdriver along pressed the string in much faster
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1256800x600.jpg)

Leave 12" lengths overlapping at one corner
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1257800x600.jpg)

Using diluted washing up liquid / water mix, thoroughly lubricate the slot with the string and the inside rubber edge
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1261800x600.jpg)

I`m not sure if this next bit is the correct way, but it seemed to work well for us. I put the bottom corner in place and made sure the rubber sat properly, inside and out
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1264800x600.jpg)

Next, whilst the person outside puts LIGHT pressure on the glass, the person inside pulls the string horizontally away from the glass. This is the bit where the string deforms the rubber and causes it to fit over the metal  :thumb:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1265800x600.jpg)

Slowly work your way along the top edge of the glass
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1269800x600.jpg)

Continue along the top
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1270800x600.jpg)

Now, have a loow from the outside and check the rubber lines up with the marks on the paint from before, I needed to push the whole pane of glass slightly towards one side to make it `sit` properly in the groove, its obvious if not, the string becomes much harder to pull. Continue pulling the string. If you find it difficult, try pulling the other end and working from the opposite direction, by doing that I found it went in easily
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1271800x600.jpg)

And thats it, we did the first window in under 10 minutes  :o  Both rear quarters, rear screen AND windscreen in 30 minutes ! That was with us taking our time as it was our first attempt. It was far easier than expected

Windscreen before (it had a small crack in the drivers line of vision)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1272800x600.jpg)

`new` one fitted (was the 5 week old one from my old car...)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/golf2/IMG_1281800x600.jpg)
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Benrevs on 08 May 2011, 19:21
I agree but would never use water on the seals, that will just help it rust!  White grease works very well.
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Thom89 on 08 May 2011, 20:34
Good guide, but a couple of points, I would never push out a healthy windscreen with my feet, fair enough if you're going to fit a new screen, but putting all the force on a good screen is pointless, and will end in tears! :smiley:
2nd point, lubricate rubber seals with French chalk, this will remain on the touching surfaces of the rubber and body, and will eliminate squeaking with any body flex...

Thom
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Nige on 08 May 2011, 21:43
When I used my feet, it was the flat of my soles, to try and spread the load. Using your hands would be more of a point loading than your soles of your feet wouldn`t it ? Maybe I`ve been lucky, I`ve removed / fitted several since I wrote this and never had a problem. Using the screwdriver is a more controlled method though. Good point.

I wouldn`t use soapy water if there was any rust, I`d obviously treat that once the glass was removed. Does french chalk allow the rubber to slide over the seam easily enough ? I hadn`t though of that either  :grin:
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Thom89 on 08 May 2011, 22:19
Whether its your hands or feet doesn't really matter, its the fact that you are putting the glass under pressure, any chip, or nick in the glass is a week spot, carefully feeding the rubber out with a screwdriver will not put the glass under any strain...
And yes, the french chalk works really well, evidence of FC should be evident on the rubber seals that was put the when the car was built... like a white waxy chalk residue. Also 4mm Para/curtain cord is perfect for pulling in the glass, as it will not tear the seal

Thom
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Neo Badness on 08 May 2011, 23:28
I'm off to get me some curtain cord and french chalk. I managed it all before but there was some room for improvement in my technique :grin:

Good guide though :cool:
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Thom89 on 08 May 2011, 23:49
Go fetch :grin: :grin:

Thom
Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: Neo Badness on 08 May 2011, 23:58
Go fetch :grin: :grin:

Thom

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Title: Re: windscreen removal
Post by: tech1889 on 10 May 2011, 16:36
I tried the above today and took my windscreen (big chip) and one of my rear quarters out due to a rust bubble just at the bottom of it.. I just placed my feet carefully on each pane of glass and just slowly pushed and slid my feet along worked a treat and didnt crack/break any glass at all..

Im not sure how you refit though ive read that guide but it didnt work for me could someone explain in laymans terms ??