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General => Car audio => Topic started by: Shady Pioneer on 26 April 2011, 21:43

Title: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 26 April 2011, 21:43
As I have just got the Anni, no sounds are installed on it, so I'm going to put in my sounds from the valver. This consists of Infinity Components up front (capable of 100W RMS), and Infinity sub capable of 300W RMS (I think) and a JBL 4 channel amp which powers it all.

Now I do like this system but I'd like to add a bit more power, so would I be right in thinking I can get more power out of the 4 channel amp by running it as a 2 channel for the components, and then getting a mono amp for the sub?

Also, I only have 8AWG wiring, would it be worthwhile me adding a thicker cable in such as 2 or 4 to then not have to worry when I do get around to buying a new mono amp? I'd like to keep the 4 channel and run the mono amp alongside it. Would I simply split the power feed cable into two once routed through the car?

Sorry for all the questions.  :grin:
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: B-chi on 27 April 2011, 08:26
What are the specs of your amp? What power output does it put out bridged at 4ohm? Also what HU do you have? How many outputs does it have?

If you go for a 600w mono you could get away with a 4awg power cable. Run this from battery to a fused distribution block in the back then run a seperate power cable from this to the amps.

Remote turn on for amps you can just daisy chain from amp to amp. That'll be fine on just 2 amps.

If you want more than say 1000w sub I'd recommend a bigish battery under the bonnet and 2 or 0awg.

I also recommend using the same size cable for major engine power cables as the run from battery to amps.
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 08:42
Thanks for the input good sir.

The amp is a JBL GTO 1004E running 100W RMS at 4ohm over 4 channels, so I imagine bridged would be more:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/jbl-gto1004.html


Not sure of other spec as I haven't had a proper good look at it but I believe the are a couple of outputs to facilitate an additional amp. My headunit is an Alpine 9880R which has 3 pre-outs, one of which is dedicated to a sub.

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-cde-9880r.html


So ideally, if I have this correct, if I buy a 4AWG power and ground cable to put in now when I put in my current set up, once I buy a mono amp I should in theory just be able to hook it up along with a power cable splitter? I will also route another RCA cable as well to be read for when I install the new amp.

Is this right?
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: B-chi on 27 April 2011, 09:41
Yeah pretty much.

Amp specs are.

100x4 at 4ohm or
225x2 at 4ohm.

If I were you I wouldn't bother bridging it. Just use 2 of the 4 channels to give 2x100.

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/jbl-gto7001.html

Would match your current amp. Would look nice installed next to each other.
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 09:47
Excellent. At least I know what I'm doing now.  :grin: Cheers for you help, buddy. :afro:
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 27 April 2011, 11:02
Excellent. At least I know what I'm doing now.  :grin: Cheers for you help, buddy. :afro:

That's a bit optimistic isn't it?
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 11:02
Excellent. At least I know what I'm doing now.  :grin: Cheers for you help, buddy. :afro:

That's a bit optimistic isn't it?

Feck...off.  :grin:
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: B-chi on 27 April 2011, 12:06
Anytime.

The mk3 is a really installation friendly motor.

You need anything else give us a shout.

Lmao at  vr6. You don't know what your doing till you've done it wrong a bunch of times.
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 13:04
Anytime.

The mk3 is a really installation friendly motor.

You need anything else give us a shout.

Lmao at  vr6. You don't know what your doing till you've done it wrong a bunch of times.

Will do chap. I installed my current set up in both my GL and my old valver, want to be careful with the Anni though, but to get the wiring right first time, at least I won't need to mess around a second/third/fourth time.  :grin:
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 13:54
B-chi, could you recommend a good 4AWG wiring kit? Preferably around the £30-40 mark please?
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: B-chi on 27 April 2011, 14:01
Have you got the RCA already?

knukonceptz stuff is pretty good.


Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 14:03
Have you got the RCA already?

knukonceptz stuff is pretty good.




I do have 2 RCAs already. I'd need the power and ground cable, plus fuse and fuse holder wouldn't I? Vibe wouldn't be any good would it?  :grin:
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 14:06
This?

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KLM-K4
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 27 April 2011, 15:20
I'm a big fan of Vibe, only issue is they are really expensive.. i've only managed to afford two door speakers!!  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Len on 27 April 2011, 15:31
Just make Chelsea scream! You wont need a stereo then!
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: B-chi on 27 April 2011, 18:55
Yeah. That'll do the job. Just need to get a fused distro when you buy the mono.

In fairness to vibe and all the cheap brands. For this sort of level 4awg power cable is 4awg power cable no matter the brand.
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 19:16
I looked up knukoncepts and lots of people hae said their wiring is really good quality, and for the price that looks like a steal for the 4 awg kit. I'll buy that tonight.

Cheers again B-chi. Could you do me a favour, one last thing, could you point me in the right direction for that fused distru? Preferably from the knukoncepts site...
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: B-chi on 27 April 2011, 20:16
http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=BC-1428

That'll be alright as long as you keep the run to the mono as short as poss. Like under a couple of ft.

Or thinking about it I've got the bigger version which I'm not going to need. Not quite man enough for my needs. You can have that if you want. Fiver plus postage.
Title: Re: Advice on upgraded my current ICE setup
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 April 2011, 21:56
Ace, yeah bud I'll take that off you, if you PM me your PayPal I'll sort it out for you.