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Title: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: shepgti on 26 April 2011, 19:11
was browsing a bike forum i frequent and came across this. touhghts?

personally i dont like the setup :undecided:

http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/65029-the-car-thread/page__st__25520    (scroll half way down to the golf)
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Chris-White on 26 April 2011, 19:39
thats going to handle f**king weirdly if you try and match the height at the front
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Sam on 26 April 2011, 20:22
DO NOT LET DANNY MONDAY SEE THIS!
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Thom89 on 26 April 2011, 20:31
Crude, but effective, and that's about it!

Thom
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Sam on 26 April 2011, 20:36
The guy who makes them is on here (no offence to this forum) http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232860 and states that they are for show use only but are plenty good enough for the job  :smiley:
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Wayne on 26 April 2011, 21:19
Stupid idea that will one day end in tears.
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Thom89 on 26 April 2011, 21:38
The guy who makes them is on here (no offence to this forum) http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232860 and states that they are for show use only but are plenty good enough for the job  :smiley:

Jolfa is on here? ooops, just re read :rolleyes:

Spotted him today driving a Mk2 in John O Groats   :evil: :evil:

Thom
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Wayne on 26 April 2011, 21:44
Worth a read: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=174700.50


Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Diamond Hell on 27 April 2011, 14:10
That really is one of the nastiest modifications I've seen in some time.

'show use only'  What utter tosh.  Not sure it'd stand up if there was a claim against him, should one fail.

Not like it'd be possible to declare it as a modification on this basis, either.

So, just to confirm he's selling something that he himself doesn't recommend fitting to your car unless you never drive it.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Sam on 27 April 2011, 16:52
Thats exactly what he is selling, whats wrong with that? He is selling somthing that he and like minded people want for 1/3 of the price that any 'proper' places do them at. He is making a quick buck, TUV approval aint cheap.
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: cняis on 27 April 2011, 19:41
If you want to lower the rear end only, on the existing standard, wallowy suspension, just load the boot up with 10 bags of compost.
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Diamond Hell on 27 April 2011, 21:18
Thats exactly what he is selling, whats wrong with that? He is selling somthing that he and like minded people want for 1/3 of the price that any 'proper' places do them at. He is making a quick buck, TUV approval aint cheap.

You think if a set of these fails in an 'interesting' way that it'll all be fine and there'll be no comeback?

Not sure I'm buying that in a litigious society.
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 April 2011, 08:56
its a case of good in theory, badly executed tbh

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Chris_Eyre/VW%20Motorsport/Mk3/tn_IMG_3976.jpg)

^done properly vw motorsport style
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 April 2011, 11:04
M'mmmm, strengthening webs.

edited for all round peace - jv
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: DOA on 28 April 2011, 18:56
Nasty bodge but probably safe. Im rather questioning the value of hardening them using tuftriding though, Its a sure fire way of making sure they let go in a big way if they do rather than gradually as they would with unhardened material and I doubt they are ground flat again after heat treating. Saying that, he seems to be under the impression its just a surface finish so showing just how little he knows about what hes doing.
As for show use only, that wont cover him or the muppet engineer who is claiming that the 8.8's he has fitted will be fine, theres a reason why VW have used better quality and no engineer in the world would accept less than stock as good enough for mods like that.

Either way, anyone who buys them has far more money than sense though at £100 as theres probably a tenner in each tops and certainly no need to machine them other than to get them flat.
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: cняis on 28 April 2011, 19:46
Nasty bodge but probably safe. Im rather questioning the value of hardening them using tuftriding though, Its a sure fire way of making sure they let go in a big way if they do rather than gradually as they would with unhardened material and I doubt they are ground flat again after heat treating. Saying that, he seems to be under the impression its just a surface finish so showing just how little he knows about what hes doing.
As for show use only, that wont cover him or the muppet engineer who is claiming that the 8.8's he has fitted will be fine, theres a reason why VW have used better quality and no engineer in the world would accept less than stock as good enough for mods like that.

Either way, anyone who buys them has far more money than sense though at £100 as theres probably a tenner in each tops and certainly no need to machine them other than to get them flat.

Scene morons will fall for them however.

I still dont understand why anybody would want low and soft suspension? Surely low and firm are better matched, as achieved by lowering springs with matching shocks or a set of coilovers?

And if the rear is sitting on the floor, how do they propose bodging lowering the front?
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 April 2011, 23:43
And if the rear is sitting on the floor, how do they propose bodging lowering the front?

This is the real stupidity of the whole scenario.
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: Jimp on 29 April 2011, 09:12
Reminds me of an Irish A4 that for a while was running no springs 'to go lower'  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: thoughts on suspension/hub setup
Post by: cняis on 29 April 2011, 11:21
Reminds me of an Irish A4 that for a while was running no springs 'to go lower'  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:

I saw that on an old Fiat Panda once, it was riding on the bumpstops and bounced down the road  :laugh: