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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: DubaiGTI on 17 April 2011, 17:26
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Hello everyone,
Would be keen to hear your thoughts on the Revo Stage1 software upgrade for the Mk6 GTI (DSG). The stats look impressive. Anyone with first hand experience? Is it worth it? Does the front wheel drive configuration and DSG box handle the extra power well? I want to keep the car stock apart from the power hike. Presume the Stage1 upgrade voids the warranty?
Thanks for your advice
Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
“…. a strong gain in BHP and a real boost in torque, that's really what you feel when you press the throttle. The delivery is so smooth and progressive, you go very fast very quickly. The best news is the noise, it's a lot spicier than it was, it's got that growl that it should have had from the factory, in fact in my view this is the real GTI as VW should have made it.â€
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200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
:laugh: :laugh: you will be lucky to get them figures just from a stage 1 map
More like 245-255 :smiley:
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200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
:laugh: :laugh: you will be lucky to get them figures just from a stage 1 map
More like 245-255 :smiley:
Yeah I read quite a bit about 275bhp from stock but when you read the write up the stock car had more than 210bhp to start with.
Also from what i hear & read is that 250 is what you'd want as it's more useable and torque steer, wheelspin etc is minimised!
Jim
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Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
I think not.
Have dyno will be happy to prove fantasy figures are exacty that - fantasy
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Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
I think not.
Have dyno will be happy to prove fantasy figures are exacty that - fantasy
I'm not sure where he is getting those figures from as Revo don't claim those. They claim "+35-45 bhp gain +80-90 lbft torque gain"
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=volkswagen#stage1
Jim
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Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
I think not.
Have dyno will be happy to prove fantasy figures are exacty that - fantasy
I'm not sure where he is getting those figures from as Revo don't claim those. They claim "+35-45 bhp gain +80-90 lbft torque gain"
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=volkswagen#stage1
Jim
Much more realistic :wink:
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I was discussing re-mapping with my Insurance Company (Admiral) on Friday.
For up to 10% increase in bhp, they charge approx £13 extra per the year above the base cost.
For a 20-25%% increase in bhp, they charge approx £70 extra per year above the base cost.
The nice lady also increased my NCD by an extra year whilst I chatted her up. :cool:
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I was discussing re-mapping with my Insurance Company (Admiral) on Friday.
For up to 10% increase in bhp, they charge approx £13 extra per the year above the base cost.
For a 20-25%% increase in bhp, they charge approx £70 extra per year above the base cost.
The nice lady also increased my NCD by an extra year whilst I chatted her up. :cool:
Yes but at your age Asker , how much for my age :laugh: :laugh:
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I was discussing re-mapping with my Insurance Company (Admiral) on Friday.
For up to 10% increase in bhp, they charge approx £13 extra per the year above the base cost.
For a 20-25%% increase in bhp, they charge approx £70 extra per year above the base cost.
The nice lady also increased my NCD by an extra year whilst I chatted her up. :cool:
Yes but at your age Asker , how much for my age :laugh: :laugh:
You're no spring chicken either my dear. :kiss:
I think our premiums would be the same. Once past that age :evil: :grin:, you're in clover with the Insurance Companies.
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I was discussing re-mapping with my Insurance Company (Admiral) on Friday.
For up to 10% increase in bhp, they charge approx £13 extra per the year above the base cost.
For a 20-25%% increase in bhp, they charge approx £70 extra per year above the base cost.
The nice lady also increased my NCD by an extra year whilst I chatted her up. :cool:
Yes but at your age Asker , how much for my age :laugh: :laugh:
You're no spring chicken either my dear. :kiss:
I think our premiums would be the same. Once past that age :evil: :grin:, you're in clover with the Insurance Companies.
18 yrs younger , there should be no extra cost for your age bracket :kiss: :laugh:
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Asker
It's now around 12 months since you expressed an interest. :undecided:
Just get it done, then you'll know what all of the fuss is about.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
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Steve30: You cheeky chappie. In the eyes of Insurance Companies, both of us are old and experienced!! :grin:
GolfTI: I know, I know. I've been told that Wolfgang might need open heart surgery for a re-map as he is a BW7 2010 baby!! If that's the case then Wolgang will have to be Doc's patient, i.e. if he is willing to perform the necessary. :laugh:
I've just remembered something. Erik our Dutch friend's GTI is the same age as mine and he had an Abt re-map. I wonder if they performed open heart surgery on his car? I have a feeling they did not.
Hmmm ........
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Order the unit. If it doesn't work, send it back.(7 day no quibble return policy).
Simples.
Of course, if Doc is able to do it for you then you get THAT van turning up :cool:
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Order the unit. If it doesn't work, send it back.(7 day no quibble return policy).
Simples.
I'm in the same boat at the moment, i want the upgrade but can't quite jump in. I'm thinking about Revo with the switch or the Bluefin. Revo with the switch is quite a lot more money but i hear it's worth it.
Not sure what people feedback is....
Jim
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Plenty like Revo.
I personally love the bluefin. Faultless and so easy to use, original map is stored on the unit for when you want it.
Takes 5 mins to swap maps.
Had mine for a year or so now. Whichever way you go tell your insurance company.
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I had bluefin on the MK5, no problems and works well.
You do get used to it and think it isn't working
So you take it back to standard and then the car feels like two fat blokes are sitting in the back :laugh:
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I have bluefin as well, no problems and works well.
You do get used to it and think it isn't working
So you take it back to standard and then the car feels like two fat blokes are sitting in the back :laugh:
And a weeks supply of beer in the boot :smiley:
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Asker
Have you ordered yet??
Could have it by Tue/Wed........
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Mike's and my car have the same BW8, 2010.
We just found out. They are lovely Red twins, but one is in NI and the other in London. Unfortunately, there has been a rift in the family!! :grin:
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Asker
Have you ordered yet??
Could have it by Tue/Wed........
I've PM'd you as a matter of courtesy!!! :kiss:
My PMs to Mike and his Posts on here crossed!!!
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Asker
Have you ordered yet??
Could have it by Tue/Wed........
I've PM'd you as a matter of courtesy!!! :kiss:
My PMs to Mike and his Posts on here crossed!!!
Give it a go Asker , if doc wants to sort your's and mine out ? :drool: when he's down our way ?
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Asker
Have you ordered yet??
Could have it by Tue/Wed........
I've PM'd you as a matter of courtesy!!! :kiss:
My PMs to Mike and his Posts on here crossed!!!
Give it a go Asker , if doc wants to sort your's and mine out ? :drool: when he's down our way ?
No idea. I think he is recovering from the Rolling day. :smiley:
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Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
I think not.
Have dyno will be happy to prove fantasy figures are exacty that - fantasy
I'm not sure where he is getting those figures from as Revo don't claim those. They claim "+35-45 bhp gain +80-90 lbft torque gain"
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=volkswagen#stage1
Jim
Here
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=show_news&id_nws=30'
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Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
I think not.
Have dyno will be happy to prove fantasy figures are exacty that - fantasy
I'm not sure where he is getting those figures from as Revo don't claim those. They claim "+35-45 bhp gain +80-90 lbft torque gain"
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=volkswagen#stage1
Jim
Here
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=show_news&id_nws=30'
As i thought... you may well be running better fuel over there. However you will still not get 282bhp. I would have guessed more like 270.
I have had mine on rollers and it made 265bhp... i think i have the graph somewhere :undecided:
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Revo Technik releases Stage1 performance software for the VW MKVI Golf GTi. With no need for any hardware modifications Stage1 raises peak power from a stock 200bhp to 282bhp and peak torque from 207 lbft to 317 lbft.
I think not.
Have dyno will be happy to prove fantasy figures are exacty that - fantasy
I'm not sure where he is getting those figures from as Revo don't claim those. They claim "+35-45 bhp gain +80-90 lbft torque gain"
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=volkswagen#stage1
Jim
Here
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=show_news&id_nws=30'
As i thought... you may well be running better fuel over there. However you will still not get 282bhp. I would have guessed more like 270.
I have had mine on rollers and it made 265bhp... i think i have the graph somewhere :undecided:
May I ask who's / what type of rollers they were.
I'm going to write a very long list of things to check when you guys are getting your vehicles power measured on rollers :wink:
Then I'll make it sticky :grin:
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Asker
Have you ordered yet??
Could have it by Tue/Wed........
I've PM'd you as a matter of courtesy!!! :kiss:
My PMs to Mike and his Posts on here crossed!!!
Give it a go Asker , if doc wants to sort your's and mine out ? :drool: when he's down our way ?
Your are as good as done :wink:
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May I ask who's / what type of rollers they were.
I'm going to write a very long list of things to check when you guys are getting your vehicles power measured on rollers :wink:
Then I'll make it sticky :grin:
they were dyno dynamics (4WD). the place i went they dont concentrate on big figures but the car running sweet... :cool:
I will be going back for another in a few weeks too... so will defo post before and after results
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May I ask who's / what type of rollers they were.
I'm going to write a very long list of things to check when you guys are getting your vehicles power measured on rollers :wink:
Then I'll make it sticky :grin:
they were dyno dynamics (4WD). the place i went they dont concentrate on big figures but the car running sweet... :cool:
I will be going back for another in a few weeks too... so will defo post before and after results
I hear you, but they are not actually writing the software and they can't have any influence over the car running sweet or otherwise as they are installing a pre-set pre-made product.
The important things to note on the dyno are where the air temp probe is and all of the information on the bottom of the dyno plot :wink:
See below:
First up on the rollers was a Mk5 Gti with a 'Stage 2' Revo map, estimated power was 280-290bhp. Result:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/LF06RFK.jpg)
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They do actually write their own software also... Although with mine it was the revo of course. If I had known previously that they wrote their own software, then I probably would have used theirs instead of revo tbh.
this is a graph i have of mine when it wasnt well...
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5565/img00142201008031804.jpg)
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They do actually write their own software
I don't doubt it for one min, but I'm just picking up on what you said about not tuning for big figures and the car running sweet etc as we're talking about REVO's here.....
Any chance of you scanning printout that so I can read the small print :wink:
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They only changed to offer revo because of issues with my car...and the fact that revo dont have any dealers covering the leeds area.
Cant scan as i dont have the readout any more. The details at the bottom are..
BP 1003
RH 59
AT 22
IT 25
RR 150
TN 3 242
CK 805 (?)
tyre pressure STD
Gear 4
(some of those may not be accurate as its still tough to make out figures on my image too)
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Heres another
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/scan0001.jpg)
These are the results on mine last year with the Revo map stage 1
Before i had fitted Milltek, Carbonio, Stage 2 map, will have to get it RR again to see the difference in figures :rolleyes:
And stage two
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=178682.0
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Can't see the whole of the picture above graph due to iPhone, I'll look tomorrow in work.
The second one on Kennys has massive issues with it's barometric pressure for starters which plays a large part in how the bhp is calculated on a dyno dynamics rolling road (so I'm told).
Every time you do a run you should input fresh data from the dyno cell to help the dyno work out the bhp, ghe specifics are BP, intake air temp and air temp in the cell.
I'll try to do some testing tomorrow on my own dyno with that BP in and see what happens, it's usually in the 990-1100 range by the way as you'll notice from the printouts on my RRday.
BTW I'm trying to help give you all an education in how these things work not make anyone or anybody's cars or dyno results look silly. :smiley:
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Totally appreciate that doc :wink: :smiley:
I know from looking at other graphs posted up on the mk5 board that the operators sometimes increase the value of the outside temp and humidity to give a higher bhp figure.... which is cheating in reality.
On stock mine made exactly 209bhp iirc :cool:
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Totally appreciate that doc :wink: :smiley:
I know from looking at other graphs posted up on the mk5 board that the operators sometimes increase the value of the outside temp and humidity to give a higher bhp figure.... which is cheating in reality.
On stock mine made exactly 209bhp iirc :cool:
Thank you :wink:
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The second one on Kennys has massive issues with it's barometric pressure for starters which plays a large part in how the bhp is calculated on a dyno dynamics rolling road (so I'm told).
Checked this on my dyno and it seems the all good, for some reason the dyno removes one of the figures when it does the BP area on the printout :rolleyes:
So a BP of 96 is actually 960 :wink:
I'm still going to do some messing on the dyno today if I get an hour or so to see how many bhp's I can get from my works van by changing the figures at the begining, and also by moving the air temp probe :smiley:
Results to follow :wink:
All of this is academic of course as it's how the car drives and feels on the road that were all after - that's a large part of why I use a racelogic timing unit to show customers real world 0-60 before and after a map :wink:
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The second one on Kennys has massive issues with it's barometric pressure for starters which plays a large part in how the bhp is calculated on a dyno dynamics rolling road (so I'm told).
Checked this on my dyno and it seems the all good, for some reason the dyno removes one of the figures when it does the BP area on the printout :rolleyes:
So a BP of 96 is actually 960 :wink:
I'm still going to do some messing on the dyno today if I get an hour or so to see how many bhp's I can get from my works van by changing the figures at the begining, and also by moving the air temp probe :smiley:
Results to follow :wink:
All of this is academic of course as it's how the car drives and feels on the road that were all after - that's a large part of why I use a racelogic timing unit to show customers real world 0-60 before and after a map :wink:
It'll be interesting to see the results :afro:
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Just been reading on another forum an upset Golf R owner talking about having a mk6 GTI stuck to the back of his car and what had the GTI had done to be able to do that! A reply was this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tdcKS1NCTc&feature=player_embedded
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Just been reading on another forum an upset Golf R owner talking about having a mk6 GTI stuck to the back of his car and what had the GTI had done to be able to do that! A reply was this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tdcKS1NCTc&feature=player_embedded
I love the commentary. Just cracked me up. :laugh:
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Thats very impressive.