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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: murraymint on 13 April 2011, 21:33

Title: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: murraymint on 13 April 2011, 21:33
after talking to a couple members i fort i'd post the photos from the fitting of my new steering wheel
so hear  goes

to start off
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0363.jpg)

undo the two bolts in the back of the mk3 wkeel
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0364.jpg)

remember to dis connect the battery to you dont get a air bag in your face lol

unplug n remove air bag and you should be faced with this
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0365.jpg)

remove the warning plate and unplug the horn and undo these three srews
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0366-1.jpg)

the big nut holding the wheel on is a 24mm so make sure you've got a socket big enough
now the moddin starts

the three bits where the three srews you've just taken out fit into the mk3 wheel but not the mk4 wheel so what i did was drill out the back of the mk4 wheel holes so that the three bits sit in the wheel

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0373.jpg)

the mk4 holes are a couple mms out so i put the mk4 on the spline, had a look how far  out and then drilled the holes out so the srews would fit

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0376.jpg)

once youve got all three srews in (i've only got two in and its all workin fine) put the big bolt back on(with the washer from the mk3 three wheel) and do up

this is the washer
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0366-2.jpg)

do up and then turn the whell if it feels to tights then remove the wheel addrill the holes out further untill it feels right

the mk4 horn has a brown wire and a black wire and the mk3 only has a black wire. on the mk4 wheel you only need the brown one so remove the black one and then join the brown wire the the black wire from the car

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0376-1.jpg)

then once oyu are happy that it feels smooth to turn and the horn workins then you can put the air bag in and admire

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0369.jpg)

warning! if it feels too tight to turn do not drive it, mine was at first and fort it'l be okay jus to drive down the road, it wasnt and i brokthe the connection for the airbag, i hope that you learn from my mistake.

this is just what i done and is not a guide, mod at your own risk.

happy dubbing!
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: mk3valver on 13 April 2011, 22:21
Look's well mate, so have you used the same airbag and boss?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: dan_apps on 13 April 2011, 22:31
looks alright that! with regard the airbag does the mk4 connectors fit the mk3 receiver on the column side then or did you swap the whole airbag unit?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: neil1780 on 13 April 2011, 22:40
looks spot on mate im needing a new one mines all worn at the top. :afro:
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: Wayne on 13 April 2011, 23:20
Excellent guide. :smiley:
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: boneybradley on 13 April 2011, 23:23
did you reconnect the airbag? and did it show any fault codes/lights for the bag after fitting (It's an mot fail soon!)
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: Jack3559 on 13 April 2011, 23:27
Cracking job :afro:
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: MK3GTI_16Valve on 14 April 2011, 00:09
Sticky?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2011, 09:56
Sticky?

If the aribag works and it gives no faults I will sticky this
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: mk3valver on 14 April 2011, 10:00
So are you saying an airbag light will be an mot failure in the future?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2011, 10:02
So are you saying an airbag light will be an mot failure in the future?

yep as far as I know all non working warning lights will be a mot failure soon.....
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 April 2011, 10:18
So would this mean that for all those that have fitte aftermarket non-airbag steering wheels they'd also need to retro fit a non-airbag / ABS warning light panel on the dash from a lower model?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2011, 10:21
So would this mean that for all those that have fitte aftermarket non-airbag steering wheels they'd also need to retro fit a non-airbag / ABS warning light panel on the dash from a lower model?

or fit a resistor (which should be supplied with the boss kit..I know momo include them)
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 April 2011, 10:26
But that would still leave an airbag light on the dash, does the resistor stop it lighting or just let the airbag ecu do it's initial checks then switch off the light as if there was an airbag still fitted?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2011, 10:32
a resistor lights the bulb and then turns it off like normal
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 April 2011, 10:37
Ok. Personally i wouldn't want a pointless light flashing on and off every time i started my car and would change the warning light panel but I guess most people wouldn't worry about it as long as it passed the MOT. Im just fussy like that though.  :smiley:
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 14 April 2011, 10:43
my airbag lights been on for about a year now, no idea why it just randomly came on one day and I never got round to finding out why :P Guess I better investigate
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: dan_apps on 14 April 2011, 18:13
if thats the case surely you could simply take the bulb out the clocks for the airbg warning light and mr mot tester would never know!
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: VW BUSH on 14 April 2011, 19:24
So are you saying an airbag light will be an mot failure in the future?

yep as far as I know all non working warning lights will be a mot failure soon.....

as well as a whole bunch of stuff which will affect modded cars......................
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: murraymint on 14 April 2011, 21:25
Sticky?

If the aribag works and it gives no faults I will sticky this


yh the air bag just plugs straight into the connector on the car

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h364/murrayminf/Photo0365-1.jpg)
this red connetor is the airbag connector and just gose straight thru the mk4 wheel and into the airbag. the mk3 and mk4 airbag connectors are the same

after i pluged the mk4 airbag in, i turned the engine on and the airbag light came on and then went off as normal
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: murraymint on 14 April 2011, 21:32
and yh i used the mk3 boss
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: mk3valver on 14 April 2011, 21:45
So all you need is the wheel and airbag, nice mod!
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: murraymint on 14 April 2011, 21:47
yh thats all i got
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: dino_golfgti on 15 April 2011, 16:06
seems like alot of messin about in my opinion for a wheel that dont look any better than a mk3's...u would have been better off doing the mod on a mk5 wheel with radio controls
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: murraymint on 15 April 2011, 17:02
i rekon that would look too new and out of place ina mk3, thats just my opinion
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: tweed on 31 March 2012, 21:28
i rekon that would look too new and out of place ina mk3, thats just my opinion

Agreed

Mk4 wheel suits mk3 perfect
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: VW BUSH on 31 March 2012, 21:32
My wheel needs changing as its gone all soft in places, trying to find a good Mk3 wheel is harder than fitting a Mk4 wheel, this is why I will be changing mine for one :smiley:
and its quite nice :cool:
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: vdubnut on 01 April 2012, 22:18
would the 4 spoke one fit too?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vw-golf-mk4-steering-wheel-including-airbag-ex-condition-a3-mk4-golfs-breaking-/170814119112?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27c5509cc8
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: CJA321 on 01 April 2012, 23:13
if thats the case surely you could simply take the bulb out the clocks for the airbg warning light and mr mot tester would never know!

Tweed and i had a huge disscussion about the airbag system and the MOT. Sure it came to the conclusion that i thought  a resistor and no light would work but i was wrong and if your airbag was origonally fitted at factory its got to be there at test .
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: Gash on 03 April 2012, 00:11
but how would that work if you have an after market steering wheel without airbag, if the light doesnt come on then theres no way of them knowing that the car came with an air bag surely?


thanks for the info though on the mod, going to use this to fit an audi RS TT/R8 steering wheel in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: DUBboi12 on 03 April 2012, 18:32
but how would that work if you have an after market steering wheel without airbag, if the light doesnt come on then theres no way of them knowing that the car came with an air bag surely?


thanks for the info though on the mod, going to use this to fit an audi RS TT/R8 steering wheel in the next few weeks.

Would like to see the finished product off this :smiley:
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: Gash on 03 April 2012, 18:39
hopefully il have the wheel by the end of april and fitted by then.
found out the new style TT have the same spline size as the older shape ones and the old ones fit a mk4 golf fine, so will just have to drill out the hole (pains me to say il have to drill out an R8 steering wheel! hah)
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 03 April 2012, 23:56
I'm looking forward to seeing that mate, I need some steering wheel inspiration.
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: Gash on 04 April 2012, 00:05
wll basically be this one
(http://www.roogio.com/images/ABT-Tune-it-Safe-Audi-R8-GTR-interior-steering-wheel-details-600x400.jpg)
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 04 April 2012, 13:31
An invisible one?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: 67buggers on 22 April 2012, 19:14
I just did this and now my horn keeps sounding when I turn the wheel or put pressure on it, I have disconnected it for now but can't figure out what is setting it off....I have connected the black car wire straight to the brown wire as it says
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: murraymint on 22 April 2012, 19:17
Is the horn wires crossing over any of the metal inside the wheel? If so Itl be earthing and then setting it off..?
Title: Re: how too (bodge) fit a mk4 steering wheel
Post by: 67buggers on 22 April 2012, 20:36
It does but none of the wire strands are exposed. It only seems to happen if The wheel turns to a certain point or if the wheel is pushed