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Title: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: superted on 12 April 2011, 09:59
Picked up my new golf 1.8 16v on saturaday replaced a few parts, cambelt, water pump, dizzy unit complete and full service, and the only thing left to do is sought out my temp light as its flashing soon as i start the car and the needle goes straight into the red before the engine has warmed up does anyone have an idea what this could be.  ie faulty clocks or faulty sensor. One more thing the fan kicks in still so im puzzled.

Glenn
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: nige_s on 12 April 2011, 10:14
I'd start by changing the temp sensor and it's wiring.
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: rubjonny on 12 April 2011, 12:12
yeah that means the dash sender wire is earthed or sensor is bust. look for a red/yel wire to side of head, if its connected ok swap it to another one of the 3 sensors on the side of the head and try again. if solved, buy a new sensor :)
you dont want to drive it with the other sensor unplugged, as the other 2 are for the ecu and the isv controller. at least if dash sensor is bust it will still drive ok
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: superted on 12 April 2011, 13:19
yeah that means the dash sender wire is earthed or sensor is bust. look for a red/yel wire to side of head, if its connected ok swap it to another one of the 3 sensors on the side of the head and try again. if solved, buy a new sensor :)
you dont want to drive it with the other sensor unplugged, as the other 2 are for the ecu and the isv controller. at least if dash sensor is bust it will still drive ok


checked wires changed the 3 connectors that go to, two sensors on the side of the head, which was a b/w wire and g/r. The other sensor was on the back of the head which was g/b couldn't see another sensor or a r/y wire.
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: rubjonny on 12 April 2011, 14:46
it'll be on the engien somewhere, the correct location is on the side of the head. look all around the engine bay for a red/yel wire, its in there somewhere!
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: superted on 12 April 2011, 16:56
it'll be on the engien somewhere, the correct location is on the side of the head. look all around the engine bay for a red/yel wire, its in there somewhere!

just had another look in the engine bay still no joy with this red/yell wire the onlt wire thats that colour looks like it goes to the earth on the gearbox bolt i have taken some pictures.

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Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: rubjonny on 12 April 2011, 16:59
i can see a random wire near the starter motor in the 1st pic
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car 1.8 16v
Post by: superted on 12 April 2011, 17:14
i can see a random wire near the starter motor in the 1st pic

No random ones ive checked all the wires coming out of the loom wrapping making sure that the wire hasn't broken and someone using a random bit to join it back up, with a different coloured wire. So that red and yellow wire with a black spade style plug i take it is in the right place and is an earth. 

And i thought my R5 was a pain in the backside you got to love these old cars  :smiley:
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: rubjonny on 13 April 2011, 10:27
that sounds liek the wire im on about, if it is red/yel then thats your dash temp wire, and if you earthed it to the gearbox then thats why the dash is shooting up to max :)

take it off, and check the dash again. if it doesnt shoot to max then theres your problem! get yourself another single pin black collar sensor and fit it to the spare hole in the side of the head if you dont already have a sensor there.
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: MBChB on 13 April 2011, 20:04
If this is a 16 valver, what about the two-pin sensor underneath the flange going to the heater matrix (second picture)? It's virtually impossible to see with the flange in situ, but I had to fit a new flange a few weeks ago because of a leak and when I had it off I was pretty certain it was the temp gauge sender...though I might be wrong here?
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: raferackstraw on 13 April 2011, 21:30
i think that the thermo time switch for cold start valve
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: mk2bal on 13 April 2011, 21:32
That two pin sensor is the thermotime sensor for the cold start injector. It closes for a few seconds only, (time) and only when below a certain temp (thermo).
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: MBChB on 13 April 2011, 22:20
That two pin sensor is the thermotime sensor for the cold start injector. It closes for a few seconds only, (time) and only when below a certain temp (thermo).

Ah - fair enough!

Is that the only two-pin temp sensor on the block then, and the rest are all single-pin efforts?
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: mk2bal on 14 April 2011, 00:48
On the head you mean, but yeah.3 black collared single pin, for temp guage,isv,and ecu (I think). 1 big brown 2 pin thermo (csi), and a white collared single pin oil temp sensor round the back (Mfa oil)
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: superted on 14 April 2011, 14:34
Thank you guys all fixed ordered new sensor today as it was broke the little spade connector had snaped off but with a little triming of the black plastic managed to make a connection temp sits half way perfect. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: mk2bal on 14 April 2011, 17:34
I hope you ordered the new sensor from vwspares.co.uk, and not vw(rip off) or gsf(load of wank)
Title: Re: Temp Light Flashing Red Soon As I Start The Car
Post by: superted on 14 April 2011, 21:56
I hope you ordered the new sensor from vwspares.co.uk, and not vw(rip off) or gsf(load of wank)

no i didnt but i will try them got to get a head gasket set now. :grin: