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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: benji mk2 on 11 April 2011, 08:54
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Please can someone help? I'm trying to figure out if my car has standard gti front wings with g60 plastic arch extensions or if the actual metal arch is different? Bit confused!
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Put a picture up.
If you don't know how to, I'll pm you my number and you can send me a picture from your phone.
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Might help if i put some pictures up, cheers Lewy!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/benmk1/28072007051.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/benmk1/06102007155.jpg)
Hope these are ok!
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Fronts are G60's but the rears look like GTI's.
If you get the off the car they will be stamped with G60 along with a part number on the back.
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The G60 arches and wings are different, and the differences are:
G60 wings have the upper part of the arch cut back to accomodate wider wheels, along with slots at 10 and 2 o'clock as the plastic arch has 2 clips in it which help to attach it to the wing as there isn't any metal to rivet the arch to.
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My old metal wings have been cut back so it's hard to tell. The plastic arches do have G60 on them so that answers that question! I am hoping the plastic arches will fit the genuine vw gti metal wings I have ordered!!! fun fun fun :grin:
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they will, worst case you need to snap the tabs off the g60 arches lewy mentioned
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My old metal wings have been cut back so it's hard to tell. The plastic arches do have G60 on them so that answers that question! I am hoping the plastic arches will fit the genuine vw gti metal wings I have ordered!!! fun fun fun :grin:
Yes they will, but will need to be bonded on at the top as there is no holes to rivet it back on.
Alot of people go on about a bonding agent called 'tigerseal' being the best, but any decent motorfactors/paint suppliers will sell a perfectly adequate alternative.
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mine were held on fine just using the rivet holes on the arches
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mine were held on fine just using the rivet holes on the arches
There isn't anywhere to rivet between 10 and 2 o'clock though?
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mine were held on fine just using the rivet holes on the arches
The old ones were held on this way but they had been moving about a bit and had caused a bit of rust. I'm hoping to fix them on with something like tigerseal so cheers for that Lewy! As always, cheers for the input! Gonna pop down the bodyshop tomorrow and see how it going.
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As I have mentioned previously on numerous threads before, Tiger seal, or any PU sealer is NOT the correct product to hold this sort of thing to bodywork, It can take ages to set, meaning that the part being bonded has to be gripped, taped, wedged, whatever into place, for usually many hours before it can be put into service... Parts can also drop off without warning!
The correct product costs about the same, maybe a little more, and is Windscreen bonding adhesives, 7 or 8 blobs around a wheelarch, then pushed gently into position, and secured with a couple of bits of masking tape, for an hour or so, will see the job done properly, and permanently
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WINDSCREEN-GLASS-SEALANT-BONDING-ADHESIVE-GLUE-CAR-/370240015556?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item5634064cc4#ht_1264wt_907
Thom
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There isn't anywhere to rivet between 10 and 2 o'clock though?
yeah i know, but as i say mine were held on fine just using the holes that were there :)
main thing is to get the right rivets, most common rivet sizes are too small or dont have a large enough head on them, believe me I know! proper ones have a huge flat head so hold them on much better.
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Cheers for the info thom89! Fitted up the plastic G60 arch to the new wings the other day, thankfully they fit up ok. I am a bit concerned as there is a huge gap between the underside of the previously cut back plastic and the new metal wing. I really want to stick with the G60 arches but I can see the gap filling with crap from the road and then the wings aren't gonna last to long. I did wonder about maybe cutting up a pair of GTi arches and grafting them on to fill the gap?
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Nah don't worry about that. Heavily underseal the lip of the wing, and go up onto the wing behind the arch in the gap. Colour code it after if you have to!!! Mines had the gap there 5 years on a hammered back undersealed arch and its fine.
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thats how g60 were as standard anyway, just make sure you dont have any bare metal and keep on top of your cleaning should be fine
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Wonderful news, I was starting to think that I'd have to go back to the standard GTi arch extensions! Thanks for the input :grin:
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Found this useful cheers fellas