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Title: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 10 April 2011, 10:18
After buying back my Mk2 from the guy I sold it to 4 years ago I've decided it's time for some paint! Dropped the car off yesterday, I can see this getting expensive!!!




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Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: emery1990 on 10 April 2011, 10:50
Same colour?
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Post by: benji mk2 on 11 April 2011, 08:58
Yeah, same colour just getting rid of some rust and a few dents. Putting two new front wings on as well!













Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: Mr Blue on 11 April 2011, 09:04
love a fresh mk2  :nerd:

Get plenty of pics
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Post by: tech1889 on 12 April 2011, 08:21
+1 get loads of pics gona look sweet
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Post by: Wayne on 12 April 2011, 09:12
Looking forward to the updates  :cool:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: benji mk2 on 12 April 2011, 09:45
cheers for the comments, gonna try and pop down the bodyshop later on today!
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Post by: benji mk2 on 17 April 2011, 07:50
Few photo updates, had to fit new front wings as the old ones were rotten under the plastic arches. Managed to get genuine ones for a very good price! Turned up just as the guy was in the booth painting the wings and bonnet.
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Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: tech1889 on 17 April 2011, 17:39
Looking good mat guess they found some more rust lol
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Post by: benji mk2 on 17 April 2011, 21:36
yeah, it's to be expected I guess! So long as it's all done for all types I'll be happy  :cool:
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Post by: dav87 on 18 April 2011, 21:26
looking good, where did you get your new wings from? hoping to get mine sprayed in a couple of months, took my archs off and the wings on both sides are rusted to hell,
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: benji mk2 on 18 April 2011, 23:12
TPS in chester, about £200 for the pair inc vat. Got a phone call to say it's done today  :laugh:
Think I may tow it home and put it all back together in the garage so I can take my time, to keep the costs down I did all the stripping and will be trying to put it all back together. Can anyone recommend a cavity wax and underseal to use while I rebuild it? Also has anyone got any tips with regards to fitting the freshly painted wings? As always thanks for any input!!!
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Post by: tech1889 on 18 April 2011, 23:16
If you spent that much on the car already mate your best going www.rustmaster.co.uk its about £3-400 they totally underseal the car and cavity wax etc every single nook and cranny and comes with a 5 year warranty..  :smiley:
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Post by: Mr Blue on 18 April 2011, 23:48
tips for wings.

Make sure the car is on flat ground and adjust the door so that it is in line with the rear quater lines. Adjust the lock stricker pin to suit.
Then bolt the wing on losely with a big panel gap at the door end. Then work your way slowly adjusting the gaps till the door opens clear.

Takes time adjusting the gaps.

Also seal the underside of the wings (where the 2 bolts are)

Looking forward to pics :smiley:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: Thom89 on 18 April 2011, 23:54
tips for wings.

Make sure the car is on flat ground and adjust the door so that it is in line with the rear quater lines. Adjust the lock stricker pin to suit.
Then bolt the wing on losely with a big panel gap at the door end. Then work your way slowly adjusting the gaps till the door opens clear.

Takes time adjusting the gaps.

Also seal the underside of the wings (where the 2 bolts are)

Looking forward to pics :smiley:

Aaahhh thats how its done  :wink: :kiss:

Thom
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: Mr Blue on 19 April 2011, 10:08

Aaahhh thats how its done  :wink: :kiss:

Thom

Soo close to f'king mine up. Door touched the wing when open. :shocked:

btw seen your work. Impressive :cool:
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Post by: Thom89 on 19 April 2011, 13:45
What did you see? (no names)

Thom
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Post by: Mr Blue on 19 April 2011, 14:15
cant say :smiley:
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Post by: Thom89 on 19 April 2011, 18:11
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

Thom
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Post by: dav87 on 19 April 2011, 20:08
i'll have to give TSP a call tomorrow, i found some online but i'm not too sure if the quality would be any good,

http://www.vwh2o.com/vw.cfm?act=shop.product&pID=35932858&lang=EN&country=GB

i also phoned my local dealer and its 100 quid plus vat,  :sad:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: Thom89 on 19 April 2011, 20:13
Pattern wings are crap!! try and hunt some OE new, or 2nd hand...
Genuine wings are worth every penny

Thom
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: dav87 on 19 April 2011, 20:20
mite just have to bite the bullet and get one from my local dealer,

also need a rear bumper but thats gonna have to be 2nd hand because vw have stopped doing them,
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: Thom89 on 19 April 2011, 21:10
Pattern bumpers from BBT's are very good, and could pretty much pass as the real thing, trained eye can spot them, but the general opinion is that they are a very good alternative...

Thom
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Post by: cняis on 19 April 2011, 22:23
Pattern bumpers from BBT's are very good, and could pretty much pass as the real thing, trained eye can spot them, but the general opinion is that they are a very good alternative...

Thom

Pattern rears will be fine, pattern fronts have more scope to be a bad fit as the fog light bracket mounting holes can be drilled in the wrong position (personal experience!)
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: tech1889 on 20 April 2011, 00:02
Thing is you can pick up good cond front bumpers for not a lot of money.. just getting one which isnt scratched on the textured bit can be a pain.. the painted bit isnt a problem as can be filled and repainted no problem
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Post by: jp123 on 20 April 2011, 17:02
Out of curiosity how much did you pay for the spraying? thinking of having mine done but need to know how much to save.
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: tech1889 on 20 April 2011, 17:08
most bodyshops are around 2k for a full decent spray job mate..
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Post by: the_stink on 20 April 2011, 17:21
most bodyshops are around 2k for a full decent spray job mate..

x2 and you get what you pay for  :wink: i got quoted about £1800

but far from having that done any time soon  :grin:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: benji mk2 on 20 April 2011, 21:45
Went to see the car very quickly yesterday, it's looking good!!!!! Hopefully gonna tow it home tomorrow. Managed to get a new windscreen seal and wing bolts ordered, hammerited the bumper bars and irons, cleaned out the old window and door seals, and found some new inner aches! Still got lots to do but should be good fun! The car hasn't had a total respray, about 3/4 of it has been done. Will post lots of pix when it's done but working 12hr shifts for the next 5 days  :sick:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: skidmk on 21 April 2011, 13:16
looking good same as mine i opend up a whole can of worms rust everywhere! 3k in and i can nearly see the way out :lipsrsealed: hopefully lol

ive been deciding weather to go for the cup's but i dont know if i like them as much on my red as i do on darker colour golfs

all the best with it! :smiley:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop!
Post by: redgolfgti16v on 21 April 2011, 20:20
If you spent that much on the car already mate your best going www.rustmaster.co.uk its about £3-400 they totally underseal the car and cavity wax etc every single nook and cranny and comes with a 5 year warranty..  :smiley:
[make shore you clean all the sealer off the back were the sealer is on the (a) post that way you can ajust the wing in and out to fit up to the door .
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Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 24 April 2011, 10:25
Thanks again for all the input and help! Towed the car home on Thursday, just got to the bodyshop as they were closing for the long weekend. Been too busy in work to get much done yet, put the rear lights back in and started on the door window seals. I spent ages cleaning all the seals before I started to fit them so hopefully they'll be ok. Not looking forward to refitting the windscreen but I'm sure I'll be chuffed once it's done! Just need to get some adhesive to help the plastic arches stay on and I think I've got everything else that I need. The plan is to try and get the car done for All Types, watch this space!!!
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: tech1889 on 24 April 2011, 16:15
I need pics   :cool:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 25 April 2011, 00:39
Fair point, day off tomorrow so I'll do my best!!!
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: Mr Blue on 25 April 2011, 01:23
fit that rear window decal while the glass is out

 :wink:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 25 April 2011, 18:23
aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Spent a few hours on the car today, didn't feel like i got much done but such is the way of things!  Really struggled to get the rear side window back in. Tried using some nylon rope in the groove, the seal was moving over the metal lip but was almost coming off the glass and twisting a bit. Didn't continue as I didn't want to screw the seal. Anyone got any tips?
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Post by: Thom89 on 25 April 2011, 19:11
String the glass up again, with the start/finish point for the string in the middle of the longest section of the seal, ie the bottom edge. get someone to put moderate pressure on the outside of the glass, both hands, with spread fingers.. to evenly distribute even pressure over the seal against the window aperture... with this pressure maintained, pull one part of the string till it reaches the first corner, then stop, and slap the glass with a flat hand in the area that has just been pulled, this will seat the rubber... then continue with the other end of the string in the opposite direction, till you reach the adjacent corner, once again, seat the seal by slapping the glass... even pressure should be maintained at all times, continue in sections till all the way round. Once the pulling in has been completed, it will probably necessary to seat all of the window once again, just by slapping the glass, check for uniform fit on the inside of the glass, and may need a little fiddling where the rubber seal fits over the inner rear 1/4 trim... use a blunt wide blade screwdriver for this.
When pulling the string out, don't pull it towards you! this could tear the rubber seal... Instead, wrap the string round your hand and with you knuckles touching the glass, pull the string like you're pulling it to the adjacent side of the seal..

Easy really...

Thom
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 25 April 2011, 19:19
thanks for the info, will try again soon!!! Sort of did it the way you said but without the slapping and I was pulling the string out at 90 degrees not in the way you said!
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: Thom89 on 25 April 2011, 19:30
Also, if you've cleaned the seal, you may have cleaned off the powdered lube :rolleyes: causing the rubber to grip too much against the aperture, just give the seal a shot of Mr Sheene to help it on its way...

Thom
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 25 April 2011, 19:41
Good thinking Batman!
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 30 April 2011, 10:32
WOOHOOOOOOO! Progress at last, I managed to get a fair bit done yesterday thanks to the help of a few glamorous assistants! Got all the glass that was taken out put in, very glad I bought a new windscreen seal from BBT. After spending over an hour getting the seal onto the screen we then spent another hour trying to get it in, then realised that someone had put the string into the wrong groove of the seal  :evil: Once in the right place it went in very easily and it sits perfectly. Put the front wings on, got the O/S lined up ok with the door but then realised it didn't line up with the bonnet, it was about this time I thought I'd better stop before I had some sort of tantrum! Lots of other bits and bobs done, watch this space............
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 Very rough 50/50 with Gtechniq C4, this stuff is amazing!!

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need to try it on this next!

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Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: Mr Blue on 30 April 2011, 18:04
reminds me of my build up. Looking forward to more pics  :smiley:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 01 May 2011, 20:26
cheers! I managed to get both the wings properly lined up this morning then got thinking about getting the wheels refurbished before all types, then got thinking about changing the colour of the wheels!!!! decisions decisions decisions  :smiley:
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Post by: cняis on 01 May 2011, 20:31
cheers! I managed to get both the wings properly lined up this morning then got thinking about getting the wheels refurbished before all types, then got thinking about changing the colour of the wheels!!!! decisions decisions decisions  :smiley:

good progress :afro:


Sorry to hijack but where abouts are the other bolts for the wings? are they underneath inside the arch or inside the A pillar? i need to align my OSF wing  :laugh:
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 01 May 2011, 20:37
there are 2 inside the arch against the pillar, one in front of the bumper bracket and one on the front edge of the wing (end of the chassis leg) if that makes sense!
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Post by: benji mk2 on 01 May 2011, 20:42
Rough as chuff but this should give you an idea, the two on the pillar might be covered in seam sealer/under seal!



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Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: cняis on 01 May 2011, 20:45
Cheers! Just what i needed to know. :afro:
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Post by: Thom89 on 01 May 2011, 21:54
Cheers! Just what i needed to know. :afro:

If your wings are the originals to the car, the 2 bolt that fit into the "A" pillar will be covered in thick under seal! and may take some finding, using a hot air gun to help scrape away the under seal is a good idea, as is heating the remaining sealer to a very high temp, so that it starts to soften up, and leaving you with a wing that is a lot easier to get off, without de forming the wing down the back fitting edge... the rest of the wing is a dry fit, and should give no problems with removal...

Thom
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: cняis on 01 May 2011, 22:40
Cheers! Just what i needed to know. :afro:

If your wings are the originals to the car, the 2 bolt that fit into the "A" pillar will be covered in thick under seal! and may take some finding, using a hot air gun to help scrape away the under seal is a good idea, as is heating the remaining sealer to a very high temp, so that it starts to soften up, and leaving you with a wing that is a lot easier to get off, without de forming the wing down the back fitting edge... the rest of the wing is a dry fit, and should give no problems with removal...

Thom

I think the wings were removed for painting, the doors were.

There's double the gap there should be on the OS between the wing and the door. Im guessing its the wing thats out and not the door?!?!?

I take it re-aligning the wing can be done by slackening off all the bolts, adjusting then re-tightening? Without taking the wing off fully?
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 03 May 2011, 09:54
Yeah pretty much, just be very careful opening the bonnet and door!!
Title: Re: Off to the bodyshop! PROJECT ALL TYPES!!!!!!
Post by: benji mk2 on 13 May 2011, 21:38
Well the car is sooooooo nearly done, got rained off this evening so I'm hoping I can get a few clear hours after work tomorrow evening to do the last few little jobs! Should be in the show and shine at all types on Sunday so come and say hello if you see me (big lad with tattoos and huge sideburns!). I've put every spare hour in the past 2 weeks into getting it ready, it's not as good as I'd like it but it's the best I can do with the time available. Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread and helped me along! Fingers crossed it won't rain too much on Sunday  :smiley: