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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: the_stink on 25 March 2011, 12:21
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Finally got around to getting the old spark plugs out today just as well look at the state of them!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/zippypockets/IMG00342-20110325-1146.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/zippypockets/IMG00339-20110325-1133.jpg)
The car feels so much better to drive now and just went for a quick drive :cool: idles fine and does go alot better than it did :grin:
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Its amazing the difference new plugs can make!
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They look ok tbh, no real horrors really.
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Honestly the amount of horrid things ive seen come out of this car whilst ive been servicing it, im just astonished that the car was running!
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they didn't look that bad, could have just cleaned them up.
at least there were no horrors to be found like oil on them.
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they didn't look that bad, could have just cleaned them up.
at least there were no horrors to be found like oil on them.
they look normal to me
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look fine to me seen a lot worse.. atleast they not black or covered in petrol oil etc
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look fine to me seen a lot worse.. atleast they not black or covered in petrol oil etc
or broken in 2, leaving half in the head :grin:
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Lol so true been there done that :grin:
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Honestly the amount of horrid things ive seen come out of this car whilst ive been servicing it, im just astonished that the car was running!
lol, this is why your car has a service schedule! Good to hear it feels the better for it tho!
I recently heard of a Mercedes van doing 75,000 miles from new without being serviced before a main bearing failed.
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Origional plugs are in good condition, and show that they are doing there job properly, I'd be happy if they came out my car, they are also the correct plug type of to run in a 16V...
New plugs are incorrect for a 16V :sad:
Thom
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i think Joe is just happy he has managed to change them for new ones as after all the trouble he has had with tools is an achievement in itself! :grin:
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You call that a bad spark plugs? These are bad spark plugs :lipsrsealed:
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New plugs are incorrect for a 16V :sad:
Thom
Really? I got them from Euro car parts and thats what they had if they aren't the correct ones have you got a link for the correct ones :) as dan said im just happy at the mo that i managed to get them changed out :grin:
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looks like you had BKUR6ET's in there before
NGK recommend either BCP7ET (KR engine) or BKUR7ET (PL engine?) either way the 7 relates to a higher temp spark plug. Both are triple electrode just like your originals.
http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/car_commercial_search.php?type=SPARK%2520PLUGS&manufact=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF%2520MK2%2520%252884--%253E91%2529&engine=1.8
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Cheers dude ill get me some of them ordered :)
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you were doing so well :grin: :grin:
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Cheers dude ill get me some of them ordered :)
Sorry Joe, wasn't having a go, if it came across that way... was more pissed off that someone sold you the incorrect plugs
Thom
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These are bad plugs! (Excuse the hair on it, I pulled them out of the bin to take a piccy).
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110203_195134.jpg)
And as Thom said they're not right for the 16v. I used NGK BKUR6ET-10 for the ABF,. THis is taken from NKG's website.
GOLF MK2 (84-->91) 1.8 KR / 16 VALVE 85 –> 91 BCP7ET
GOLF MK2 (84-->91) 1.8 PL / 16 VALVE 10/85 –> 10/91 BKUR7ET
I always get my plugs on ebay. £10 gets you 4 brand new ones if you look well enough :smiley:
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Cheers dude ill get me some of them ordered :)
Sorry Joe, wasn't having a go, if it came across that way... was more pissed off that someone sold you the incorrect plugs
Thom
No worries mate, know you weren't having a go :grin: ill get on it and get um changed :wink:
these ones then?
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_1.8_1991/p/car-parts/car-service-parts/regular-service/spark-plugs/?408991430&1&d34dc1e4011974131bdc83264d91f05609cead89&SPKP (http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_1.8_1991/p/car-parts/car-service-parts/regular-service/spark-plugs/?408991430&1&d34dc1e4011974131bdc83264d91f05609cead89&SPKP)
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looks like you had BKUR6ET's in there before
NGK recommend either BCP7ET (KR engine) or BKUR7ET (PL engine?) either way the 7 relates to a higher temp spark plug. Both are triple electrode just like your originals.
http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/car_commercial_search.php?type=SPARK%2520PLUGS&manufact=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF%2520MK2%2520%252884--%253E91%2529&engine=1.8
GOLF MK2 (84-->91) 1.8 KR / 16 VALVE 85 –> 91 BCP7ET
GOLF MK2 (84-->91) 1.8 PL / 16 VALVE 10/85 –> 10/91 BKUR7ET
WHORE! :grin:
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whats wrong with singel electrode plugs ???? they work better trippels are just an old way of extending plug life
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whats wrong with singel electrode plugs ???? they work better trippels are just an old way of extending plug life
Single electrode plugs, shroud the spark, and give a far less efficient burn. Triple electrode plugs give a far more exposed, larger, longer lasting spark, that is allowed to penetrate more efficiently into the fuel mixture, upside, easier starting, improved economy, longer lasting, never need gap setting, and more BHP... downside, they cost more!
Thom
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Single electrode plugs, shroud the spark, and give a far less efficient burn. Triple electrode plugs give a far more exposed, larger, longer lasting spark, that is allowed to penetrate more efficiently into the fuel mixture, upside, easier starting, improved economy, longer lasting, never need gap setting, and more BHP... downside, they cost more!
Thom
Sorry but your just quoting manufacturer marketing garbage there. Find me a high powered race engine that uses mutliple electrode plugs? Single electrodes shroud the flame front far less than mutliple electrode plugs, allow you to make fractionally more torque/power due to this (which incidentally means you increase the fuel efficiency assuming all else is equal) and result in fewer carbon/crap deposits which can premote knock. The strength of the spark is purely related to resistance/supply current and by that the spark gap so there is no difference in reality and where that statement of penetrating more efficeintly into the mixture came from who knows but yes, mutliple electrode plugs last longer since the gap can be maintained for longer and might save you a few pennies if your the sort of person who is happy leaving a set of spark plugs in an engine over the course of mutliple services rather than being sensible and pulling them at each service which will maintain your fuel economy and engine output much better than multi electrode items. If you do see multi electrode items specified, its purely down to manufacturers extending service life
Be carefull of marketing blurb and bum dyno's, they are very rarely accurate.
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Funny you should say that, because ALL of our race cars use the multi electrode plugs,
I'll get on the phone to all the engine builders and put them right...
Thom
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:grin: :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:
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who cares ??
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Lets not get started on these ones then!
(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/classic-tech/114765d1288840844-what-spark-plugs-do-you-use-34gujxu.jpg)
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Single or triple or quad it depends on the amount of heat you need to get better combustion no point in stick real hot plugs if the head can't handle hard detonation.
Why do I know this because I've mucked about so much with plugs, you really don't want to know and cant be bothered to explain :wink: :laugh:
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Lets not get started on these ones then!
(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/classic-tech/114765d1288840844-what-spark-plugs-do-you-use-34gujxu.jpg)
they look cool :wink: will they give my valver more horses :grin:
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Lets not get started on these ones then!
(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/classic-tech/114765d1288840844-what-spark-plugs-do-you-use-34gujxu.jpg)
they look cool :wink: will they give my valver more horses :grin:
Yes!
Thom