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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 17:50

Title: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 17:50

I have a set of vdo's fitted into my centre console but they aren't connected.Does anyone know how easy they are to connect and do i need any sensors or can i use the mfa ones??

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: tech1889 on 23 March 2011, 18:07

theres a thread on it in maintenance section

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: tech1889 on 23 March 2011, 18:31

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=46487.0

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 19:11

cheers mate,Can anyone tell me what are the 2 senders and the T piece i need??

Any heads up on where to buy would be good

is this any good??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VDO-OIL-PRESSURE-SENDER-/220756960538?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item336623e51a

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 23 March 2011, 19:47

T piece you can get from BBT http://www.vwh2o.com/vw.cfm?act=shop.product&pID=96889&lang=EN&country=GB,

Temp sender get one from VW and the pressure sender from Ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VDO-OIL-PRESSURE-SENDER-/220756960538?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item336623e51a#ht_500wt_1156 or an Audi 80 Coupe in a scrap yard...

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 19:54

Cheers mate,Am i right in thinking if i dont use the wire for the mfa i can run my vdo from that sender and avoid the need for the t-piece??

I have seen your wiring looms,Ill need the one with the lights in,Saves time eh lol

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 23 March 2011, 20:22

Quote from: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 19:54

Cheers mate,Am i right in thinking if i dont use the wire for the mfa i can run my vdo from that sender and avoid the need for the t-piece??

So I gather - think you still need to check the Temp reading on the sender...

Quote from: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 19:54

I have seen your wiring looms,Ill need the one with the lights in,Saves time eh lol

Did them after my lad and a mate asked me to make 'em up for them to use... Just make's life easier if you are not into wiring... (Don't make much on them by the time I've bought 400 meter of wire and 300 connectors etc..) Hey-Ho helps fellow dubbers out!!....

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 20:34

Right im on the hunt for the blue sender,I think i may have one in the shed but sod's law it'll a different one lol

Ill keep my eye on that twin pole sender and you have an order for a loom,What bulbs do they take out of curiosity???

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 23 March 2011, 20:39

Cheers... Let me know when you are ready for one...

T5 Bulbs... I used Green LED's and that makes them tie in with the rest of the dash and keeps it looking OEM...

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 21:24

cheers mate,Ill be in touch.Do i get one from you on here or on ebay??

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 23 March 2011, 21:29

On Here if you don't mind... Ebay make enough money from me as it is... :wink:

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 22:17

same here mate,Im paying over 150 a month in fees. :sad:

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 23 March 2011, 22:19

I'm more and then there is the fecking Paypal fee's on top of that....

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 23 March 2011, 23:00

Oh yea and dont get me started on those lol,It gets hard to keep touch when you have 2 accounts selling 2 different kind of things and then 2 ebay fees and then paypal take their cut

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 24 March 2011, 00:10

What gets me with Paypal is they take 5% of the Total... Inc postage....

So £100.00 item with £10.00 postage, ebay take £10.00 (plus listing fees) paypal take 5% of £110.00 - when really you have only been paid £90.00 (assuming its cost £9.50 (+0.50p paypal fee's) to post)....

Then buyers complain about the postage fee's when you have to add "at least 10%" to cover the fees let alone the cost of wrapping materials and time to do it....

I have had to look at stuff I list for my work and then add 25% to the price just to break even... and ebay is seen as cheap - Mental!!

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: delirical on 25 March 2011, 14:50

Sorry to butt in, ive had my VDO guages in the car for a while and just running the battery one  :embarassed:

Pay day today so ive just ordered the t-piece, will call VW and get the temp sensor.. just looking at ebay and dont want to have to wait to bid on one of the pressure sendors, which one should i get as there seem to be so many variations of Bar and cost!?
I have a MK2 golf g60.

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 25 March 2011, 14:55

AFAIK any VDO unit should do it... 0-5 Bar is the reading BUT I think you can use the 0-10 Bar one.....

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: delirical on 25 March 2011, 14:59

Cheers mate, not really keen on spending £50 on one of the demon tweeks ones  :sad:

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 25 March 2011, 20:52

I just need the twin sender now too.I got my t piece and blue sender off the bay and now just need to find a sender thats not too much money lol

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 30 March 2011, 19:47

Right heres an update

I got them all wired today,How easy was that with the pre wired loom(x4mgs).I only have one problem,All seem to work fine yet when i put 12v/earth to the pressure gauge it goes to six bar and it makes no difference if i plug the sender in.I have it all corrected ok but i havent ran it for long

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 30 March 2011, 20:17

It will when the cars cold... Run it and you'll see it drop when not reving!

Glad you like the loom!!

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: jmsheahan on 30 March 2011, 20:41

Didn't know you did looms X4MGS, are the instructions idiot proof?  :grin: If so I'll be ordering one.

Regarding the oil temp senders, do you just use two standard VW ones (one for MFA, one for VDO guage)?

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 30 March 2011, 20:44

quality loom mate,So easy i should have done it ags ago lol

I had to buy a vdo sender and a t piece and the blue sender for the oil cooler.

You cant use standard stuff

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: jmsheahan on 30 March 2011, 21:00

I have the pressure sender and t-piece but am lacking another oil temp sender as I want to run MFA and the gauge. Do you possibly have a part number at all?

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 30 March 2011, 21:03

Quote from: jmsheahan on 30 March 2011, 20:41

Didn't know you did looms X4MGS, are the instructions idiot proof?  :grin: If so I'll be ordering one.

Regarding the oil temp senders, do you just use two standard VW ones (one for MFA, one for VDO guage)?

Got bored one night and knocked a few up... Needed a couple for my Lad and a M8....

Think the above comments sum up the ease of fitting... I've tried to make them Idiot proof...

I do two types a basic one just for the dials and senders and another one that has brand new bulb holders...

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 30 March 2011, 21:07

part number for the blue send is 049 919 563B

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: jmsheahan on 30 March 2011, 21:11

Quote from: 01664gti on 30 March 2011, 21:07

part number for the blue send is 049 919 563B

Excellent, thank you  :smiley:

X4MGS, I shall be ordering one shortly  :smiley:

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 30 March 2011, 21:13

No worries.... Drop me a PM when you're ready...

Ken

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 30 March 2011, 21:20

you could always advertise these looms on retro rides.Its free and i do good trade on there with dust caps and leds

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 30 March 2011, 21:21

Thanks for the heads up!! I'll have a look at that....

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 01 April 2011, 17:09

I have just been on a good run today and the oil temp and volts work fine but my oil pressure bar goes right up and stays there the whole time until i turn the car off.

I bought this sender off the bay

Is this ok to run it????

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-PRESSURE-Sender-Sensor-fits-GAUGE-BAR-PSI_W0QQitemZ270720940894QQcategoryZ72213QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8150720512409090193

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 01 April 2011, 17:14

Dont it drop when its warm and just ticking over, it should read full pressure when its under load...

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 01 April 2011, 17:48

no just stays at 5bar all the time,The others are spot on.

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 01 April 2011, 20:31

Not sure then, where have you put the sender?

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 01 April 2011, 21:41

sorted now mate,If i earth the sender the gauge works fine lol.


just the leds to wire in now so i get lights :smiley:

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 01 April 2011, 21:56

Cool...

Remember LED's are polarity based, so if at 1st they don't work take them out and turn then 180 degree... (Just in case you didn't know)!!

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: jmsheahan on 03 April 2011, 22:15

Quote from: 01664gti on 30 March 2011, 21:07

part number for the blue send is 049 919 563B

Sorry to drag this up again but what is the difference between that sender and the one I have spare? Same part number but the one I have ends in 'A'.

Just want to check this one def won't work before I order one at the stealership tomorrow.

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 04 April 2011, 03:19

A seems to be VW

B seems to be Audi

Maybe its down to the temp on the sender.. check the reading on the sender..

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 04 April 2011, 13:59

For anyone else interested in the looms;

You can see the pictures on my Ebay site;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280643203215

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280629605892

There are two types, with light fitting and without...

I can offer a better price on here as I don't have Ebay fees to pay... anyone interested drop me a PM...

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: jmsheahan on 05 April 2011, 12:28

Dealership out of stock for the sender, back order for anyone interested.

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 05 April 2011, 21:00

i got mine off the bay for about 5 quid

My set ups doing my head in at the min.From cold all works fine it sits about 2.5/3 bar but when warm on tick over the pressure gauge reads about 5 bar but when driving reads about 3bar is this ok??

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 05 April 2011, 21:27

Dont sound right to me...

When cold mine reads 5 Bar and when drivig reads the same and mine drops when hot and not under load.

Have you read the VDO fitting guide? http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=46487.0

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 06 April 2011, 14:29

cheers mate,Doesnt solve my problem tho lol.Its like my gauge works backwards lol

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: X4MGS on 06 April 2011, 14:44

I would be trying another sender...

Title: Re: Wiring vdo's into a gti.
Post by: 01664gti on 06 April 2011, 14:58

I am going to But they are not a cheap replacement lol