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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Kiddfrost on 16 March 2011, 17:37

Title: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Kiddfrost on 16 March 2011, 17:37
Hi

I need some help to make up my mind.

I have had my golf gti from new and the 4 year lease comes to an end in 3 months. It would have done about 72k miles by then, is in good condition and has a FSH.
It also has an s3 IC, apr hpfp, map and has been colour coded.

Do I buy it from the lease company (I’m guessing they will want about 10.5-11k for it) and k04 it (SH k04 kit from ebay etc for around £1k)

Or do I just buy a used ed30.

The only real advantages of keeping my car I can think of are that I’ve had it from new and I know it’s been looked after.

What shall I do?  :undecided:
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Chris MKV on 16 March 2011, 19:00
I wouldn't have thought it would be worth it. You would spend as much money as swapping for a ed30 by you have it all working then you'll have to insure it and eventually sell it as modified rather than standard car for the ed30.

But I could be wrong on the outlay if you know better.
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Hurdy on 16 March 2011, 19:49
I'd go for the 2nd option of buying an ED30.

Even if you buy a K04 kit you will not ultimately make the same power as an ED30 or have the same safety headroom in the pistons/rods as an ED30.

The GTI has a higher compression ratio than an ED30 meaning it will not get the same power after a K04 conversion anyway.
Also the rods are known to be weaker in a GTI than in an ED30.

The other option would be to have a full engine swap for a Cupra/ED30/S3 engine. This comes in at around £3k at Statllers. :smiley:
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Kiddfrost on 16 March 2011, 20:18
I guess your right Chris, I would probably end up spending as much and possibly more.  Then there’s selling it at the end.
I was thinking more if it was worth doing because I’v e been the only owner of the car and know what its been through..  I’m starting to think I shouldnt be taking this into account.

Some good points Hurdy, I was going to bid on that K04 conversion kit on ebay but I dont think I’m gonna bother now.

Is it still possible to get hold of a virgin ed30 in good condition or am I just dreaming.... I’m sure I’m wrong but i get the impression that they’ve all been mapped driven properly...
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Wayne on 16 March 2011, 20:31
Go for the ED30 makes more sense in the long run  :smiley:
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Chris MKV on 16 March 2011, 22:58
If Hurdy says it's not worth it then it's really not worth it - he's 'mister mod' and knows the ed30 inside out!  :cool:
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: MaXXeH on 16 March 2011, 23:30
yea i won that in the end,  i will fit it my self, I am happy with 300bhp :) so cheap for 900

only had the car 2 days :rolleyes:
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: bacillus on 16 March 2011, 23:40
yea i won that in the end,  i will fit it my self, I am happy with 300bhp :) so cheap for 900

only had the car 2 days :rolleyes:

Do you already have the S3 injectors and DV kit?
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Kiddfrost on 16 March 2011, 23:45
You got a good deal on that one, was so tempted to put a bid down and fit myself as well but bottled it in the last few seconds.
I guess ed30 it is for me now, just hope I can find a nice one.
Actually, have found a nice one but its £16.5k :shocked:


 
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: MaXXeH on 16 March 2011, 23:50
no i have none of it the car is NA,  i only paid 7k for the car cuz it was a cat D.

So will install this get all the other bits and it should cost me around 9k in total,  i am happy with that.

ED30s  are so hard to find that have been well looked after! all been trashed lol
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 17 March 2011, 16:32
Buy a 996 Porsche Carrera 4.  A 12 year old one should cost about £11,000 with quite a few miles on the clock.
You'll see off a lardy ED30 on the first corner.
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Ed30DSG on 17 March 2011, 17:07
You got a good deal on that one, was so tempted to put a bid down and fit myself as well but bottled it in the last few seconds.
I guess ed30 it is for me now, just hope I can find a nice one.
Actually, have found a nice one but its £16.5k :shocked:
 

Mine's up for sale and has been meticulously looked after ... http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=184655.0

It also comes with the option of being fully sorted if that's what you're looking for - I've spent 2 years perfecting a good (if somewhat slow) standard car :)
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Kiddfrost on 17 March 2011, 19:52
I’m sure the 996 will but I need something a bit more practical..

Nice ed30, shame its a 3 door otherwise would be very interested.
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: Hurdy on 17 March 2011, 20:29
The cars are out there.

I sold my ED30 5dr DSG on an 07 plate with 34k miles on it for under £14k

5dr reflex silver, with Kenwood touchscreen HDD satnav, uprated speakers, REVO stage 1, Quaife LSD, 18" Team dynamics 1.2 lightweight alloys with Toyo R1R tyres (nearly new tyres!), Tyresure pressure monitor system, new rear discs, nearly new front discs, and the original suspension and exhaust put back on that had done less than 10k miles.
Title: Re: K04 conversion on gti or buy ed30???
Post by: MaXXeH on 17 March 2011, 20:37
The cars are out there.

I sold my ED30 5dr DSG on an 07 plate with 34k miles on it for under £14k

5dr reflex silver, with Kenwood touchscreen HDD satnav, uprated speakers, REVO stage 1, Quaife LSD, 18" Team dynamics 1.2 lightweight alloys with Toyo R1R tyres (nearly new tyres!), Tyresure pressure monitor system, new rear discs, nearly new front discs, and the original suspension and exhaust put back on that had done less than 10k miles.

Bargin!