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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: snifferdog on 14 March 2011, 18:02
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Just wondering if the turbo is that much better than the N/A 1.8 20v?! To cut straight to the point, my mk4 is a great family car and super comfy. Its just that it feels so slow and boring and thats comparing it to my mk3 8v - which feels like a rocket powered go-kart in comparison. I know the turbo is more tuneable and that makes it 'better' but what about in standard trim, considering the N/A is 125bhp it doesnt really feel like it until about 4k revs.
To clarify, Im not dissing the N/A mk4, I love mine, but if I had bought it for gti kicks then Id be quite disappointed.
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I'll just go and get the pop corn ready! :wink:
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Why do you think the NA version was dropped :wink:
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Yeah but it was replaced with a 2.0 115 bhp :huh: So was this engine an improvement over the 1.8 20v N/A?
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Yeah but it was replaced with a 2.0 115 bhp :huh: So was this engine an improvement over the 1.8 20v N/A?
No :laugh:
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2.slow was never badged as a GTI IIRC
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2.slow was never badged as a GTI IIRC
Only for the GB market was a highline in all other markets.
Turbo is a lot better as when you get bored you can remap it.
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that was it...
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2.slow was never badged as a GTI IIRC
Only for the GB market was a highline in all other markets.
Turbo is a lot better as when you get bored you can remap it.
i was bored as soon as i drove the 1.8t from standard.. getting bored of my stage one now too... was great at first... :grin: all booked for stage 2 k03s on wednesday.. hope all goes well.
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NA engines are good fun, as they usually have a higher rev band compared to a forced induction engine. But power production licks balls unless you start to really up the displacement.
Turbo's on other hand are efficient, due to re-using exhuast gases to spin up the turbine, high power production in smaller displacement due to compression. Down side is lag, but on small turbo's like k03/4 this is not a major issue. Then remember the torque production of a turbo engine :wink: Oh and noise :rolleyes:
Plus you are comparing a NA with hardly any torque, to a 150bhp engine with a considerable amount of torque in comparison, never understood how they could even brand it as a GTI in the UK market and how the 2.0 was so ghey. But the 1.8t is a good engine, its just a shame its never came with a ko4 as the k03+s lick balls in terms of grin factor IMO. Which is why a k04 will be my next step as I don't have deep pockets for a Garett or IHI.
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unless u have a nice v6 or v8 engine how can you not have turbo power in you life?? if you dnt buy a turbo cuz you worry about economy buy a diesel not a n/a. i owned a civic type r a few year back thats n/a and 197 bhp and revs its threpny bits off but it dnt have same affect or feel to a nice tuned turbo lump. good boost turbo spooling up ,brillaint sound. :laugh:
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i have a 1.8n/a and tbh it does it for me, i bout it as a first car so only things i had to compare it to was 1.2 corsas and the likes ide driven when i was learning. its not the fastest car but it gets me from a-b and its faster than a lot of my mates cars.
though i can see myself wanting more power soon so when my insurance runs out in 6 or 7 months a 1.8t might be on the cards depending on insurnace.
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i have a 1.8n/a and tbh it does it for me, i bout it as a first car so only things i had to compare it to was 1.2 corsas and the likes ide driven when i was learning. its not the fastest car but it gets me from a-b and its faster than a lot of my mates cars.
though i can see myself wanting more power soon so when my insurance runs out in 6 or 7 months a 1.8t might be on the cards depending on insurnace.
i think what everyone finds is that once you get used to the quickness you get bored and want more power. even people who own ferrari's want a quicker one. its like riding a motorbike for the first time at first you sh!t yourself then suddenly 70mph feels like walking pace.i think you for first car are sensible to go n/a for your insurance and like you said anything is better and will feel powerful over a 1.0 or 1.2 . but as soon as you can afford to go turbo mate especially if its golf ownership. :wink:
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Ive gotta say, I was left alone with the car on Wednesday and
gave it a right good thrashing took it for a nice long drive - I think I have changed my mind about it. Its still not as responsive as the mk3 but as long as you keep it above 4k then it does have some 'go' in it. Probably not quite deserving of the gti badge but still, there is entertainment to be had. :laugh:
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tbh, ive had n/a cars in the past and i havent looked back since i got my golf turbo, its well worth getting rid of your n/a for a turbo no doubt!!
only n/a i would own is an r32 mk4 and id be tempted to run a turbo on that lol jbs do great deals on r32 turbo installs lol :evil:
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tbh, ive had n/a cars in the past and i havent looked back since i got my golf turbo, its well worth getting rid of your n/a for a turbo no doubt!!
only n/a i would own is an r32 mk4 and id be tempted to run a turbo on that lol jbs do great deals on r32 turbo installs lol :evil:
Actually the 1.8T is my first turbo car i've owned.Mostly had bmw N/A great motors and bomb proof.
I do like all the noises tho :D
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well i can tell you sunny that the 1.8 agn is like a totally diff car compared to the turbo 1.8 agu, ive got the slug unfortunately, my mates turbo is a far far far superior all round! :smiley:
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well i can tell you sunny that the 1.8 agn is like a totally diff car compared to the turbo 1.8 agu, ive got the slug unfortunately, my mates turbo is a far far far superior all round! :smiley:
Nice one, thats what I wanted to hear! Thinking of getting rid of the mk3 and getting a mk4 turbo you see.