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Title: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 13 March 2011, 22:46
Right i know il get a bias opinion but im currently debating weather to get a 1.8t golf or another 306 gti6...  :shocked:

Loved the 6 and for the price they are ALOT of car for the money and im swaying towards it but i really want something abit more grown up and better built.

Obviosily id get the golf remaped if i was to get one being as the 6 was pretty quick  and i like some power  :cool:

Thing is il'l have around 1300 to 1400 to buy either one,is it sensible to get a 1.8t for that kind of money or would i be asking for trouble?

Opinions VERY welcome (even if there bias)  :grin:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 22:51
your asking a VW forum which they prefer ??  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: cullygti on 13 March 2011, 22:52
power gains from the 1.8t will be a lot better than the 6 gti6 170 bhp mapped golf close on 200 bhp if done ryt get the golf you know it makes sense  :laugh:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: cullygti on 13 March 2011, 22:53
and as dan said on a golf forum site was you thinking we were gonna say get a ford  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 22:56
Im gona say get anything other than VAG
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: cullygti on 13 March 2011, 23:02
im gonna say see you all later cos im off to bed  :grin:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 13 March 2011, 23:11
Like i said just wanted opinions lol

What is a VAG and why shouldnt i get it?

Yeah it does make sense to get a golf to be fair
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:12
Volkswagen Audi Group


volkswagen
audi
skoda
seat
bugatti
etc
etc
etc

And i was joking i advise you to buy these makes of car
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 13 March 2011, 23:14
Alright but do you think it would be sensible to get a golf for around 1300 quid?
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:17
you could struggle to get a good 1.8t for £1300
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Wayne on 13 March 2011, 23:23
Why not get a mk3 16v still better than the 306.
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:24
or a mk2  2l 16v  :smiley:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Wayne on 13 March 2011, 23:26
or a mk2  2l 16v  :smiley:

Yes, fair point, stand more chance of a tidy mk3 however. :smiley:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:29
true true
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 13 March 2011, 23:35
Why not get a mk3 16v still better than the 306.

No way are they if you've ever drove a gti-6 you'll know how good they handle better then the mk3 golf and mk4 and the 6 beats the vr6 and 1.8t hands down.

Dont know if you've seen this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKNNAn_AgQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKNNAn_AgQ)
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Wayne on 13 March 2011, 23:38
Why not get a mk3 16v still better than the 306.

No way are they if you've ever drove a gti-6 you'll know how good they handle better then the mk3 golf and mk4 and the 6 beats the vr6 and 1.8t hands down.

Dont know if you've seen this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKNNAn_AgQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKNNAn_AgQ)

With respect your asking on a VW forum would someone buy a Peugeot, yes it is a good car but with a few choice mods so can the mk3 and mk4.

The 1.8t can be remapped which will give you very worthwhile gains, the mk3 needs a good quality susp. kit
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:39
I do think your on the wrong forum
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: damien010685 on 13 March 2011, 23:40
Lol try asking the same question on the pug forum lol!
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Wayne on 13 March 2011, 23:40
Lol try asking the same question on the pug forum lol!

Yep and then listen to all the VW haters.
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 13 March 2011, 23:45
Iv been a member of 306gti6.com for a few years now and yes they hate vw's  :shocked:

I am going to look for a golf though better built can look better with some 18's and coilovers on so yeah going for it  :laugh:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: The Dave on 14 March 2011, 00:41
306 more raw, more balls out fun, have be on the boil at the top of the revs.

Golf..better built, more low down grunt when mapped, dont handle anywhere near as well, feel heavy....but better (perceived!) quality.

Both good in their own right :)
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: p11jon on 14 March 2011, 00:57
ye imo i dnt really care how nippy those 306 gti's are ....pugs are sh!t! they are flimsy, fall apart made by communists,unreliable,tinny,you wudnt want a bump in one it'll fold up like its made of paper.you cud pop a nippy engine and hard springs in any car dnt make it a good car though. i'd rather have a golf even on a 1300 quid budget like mentioned than own a pug however quick it may be.... vag or something jap is the way to go!!!!!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :wink:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 14 March 2011, 07:23
306 more raw, more balls out fun, have be on the boil at the top of the revs.

Golf..better built, more low down grunt when mapped, dont handle anywhere near as well, feel heavy....but better (perceived!) quality.

Both good in their own right :)

Yeah your so right the 306 is a classic hot hatch and very hard to beat on the handling front,but like iv said iv'e had one before so time for a change now plus the golf is a much much nicer place to sit the 306 has a horrible driving position.
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: houston on 14 March 2011, 11:35
ye imo i dnt really care how nippy those 306 gti's are ....pugs are sh!t! they are flimsy, fall apart made by communists,unreliable,tinny,you wudnt want a bump in one it'll fold up like its made of paper.you cud pop a nippy engine and hard springs in any car dnt make it a good car though. i'd rather have a golf even on a 1300 quid budget like mentioned than own a pug however quick it may be.... vag or something jap is the way to go!!!!!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :wink:

french = communists  :undecided:

for 1300 id buy a pug, just due to budget, you will prob end up with a bit of a battered golf for that kind of money which throws the reliability pro out the window.

306s are great fun, ive owned a few over the years and only real troubles ive had is with the electrics. but if your doing long drives then those seats are the most uncomfortable in the world!

any other cars your looking at?
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Adam on 14 March 2011, 12:26
pugs are sh!t! they are flimsy, fall apart made by communists,unreliable,tinny

Ha  :grin: Wrong country fella :laugh:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: p11jon on 14 March 2011, 13:49
pugs are sh!t! they are flimsy, fall apart made by communists,unreliable,tinny

Ha  :grin: Wrong country fella :laugh:
no not really not in recent years but the fcp (french communist party) was the largest left wing party for decades for most of last century . if they controlled that many seat in french parliament then they have been voted to that position by the french public thus showing support for communists.so they must be communists. i rest my case  :nerd: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 14 March 2011, 14:13
I've never run into a gti-6 before but I have had a run with my mate's alfa 147gta after he was hyping up his car alot so he asked me to stop being a wuss and get alongside him so I did, was pretty even till 3rd at the top end of 3rd I just started pulling away from him, pretty much game over and Im only pushing a pathetic 240+ bhp - it's a daily student shopping car. I've not spent much to get to the power I'm at now, it's a cheap and cheerful car to tune, although I can't speak for the peugeot's 2.0L 16v engine I doubt that you'll be able to get as much power out of that engine for the same amount of money on mods. So for me it would have to be the 1.8t, if you must get a french car the renault megane r26 is quite rapid, I've been on a few cruises with a mapped up r26 and it pulled very nicely.
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: p11jon on 14 March 2011, 14:25
I've never run into a gti-6 before but I have had a run with my mate's alfa 147gta after he was hyping up his car alot so he asked me to stop being a wuss and get alongside him so I did, was pretty even till 3rd at the top end of 3rd I just started pulling away from him, pretty much game over and Im only pushing a pathetic 240+ bhp - it's a daily student shopping car. I've not spent much to get to the power I'm at now, it's a cheap and cheerful car to tune, although I can't speak for the peugeot's 2.0L 16v engine I doubt that you'll be able to get as much power out of that engine for the same amount of money on mods. So for me it would have to be the 1.8t, if you must get a french car the renault megane r26 is quite rapid, I've been on a few cruises with a mapped up r26 and it pulled very nicely.
i agree about the r26 and possibly new clio cup but other than that i wudnt go french at all. renault interiors are crap aswell cheap plastics.and this geezer only has 1300 quid so he ent getting a r26 or clio cup so i think he needs to take the right advise and find a golf. i'd rather a 1.6 golf than the pug. you can get a 100k gti golf for about 1500 quid that wont be to bad look around. all cheap cars will need changes to them ie wheels suspension etc when ur doing them up.if you want better cars work hard save the pennys .dnt settle for crappy pugs just cuz u cant stretch urself.better to have a lesser model good car than a top range sh!t one! :wink:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 14 March 2011, 16:43
You'll find it hard to get even 5 or horses out of the 306 just because the engines are very well tuned as standard. My budget for a golf isn't high I know but id have it as a but of a project. I study body repair at college so can get tips on the body side of things. Engine wise just service and the right oil and if anything goes wrong then that's just how cars go there all made to break at some point lol. All I ask is that it's black  :tongue:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: munks on 14 March 2011, 16:48
Ad another £500 to yor budget and you can have mine!  :tongue:
Verry reliable car and comftable for a hot hatch!
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 14 March 2011, 16:58
Need to see if the bank will give me loan 1st  :grin: post a pic up mate
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: munks on 14 March 2011, 17:01
Ye will do later mate!
its not black mind! hahah
Its jazz blue with 18"s and forge diverter!
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: snifferdog on 14 March 2011, 17:10
Why not get a mk3 16v still better than the 306.

No way are they if you've ever drove a gti-6 you'll know how good they handle better then the mk3 golf and mk4 and the 6 beats the vr6 and 1.8t hands down.

Dont know if you've seen this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKNNAn_AgQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKNNAn_AgQ)

Hadnt seen that link before. I didnt know Clarkson was so fond of the mk4!  :laugh: The turbo version must be loads better than the n/a version then. :grin: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: Kus on 14 March 2011, 17:10
Alright well give me a look still  :cool:
Title: Re: What car out of the 2?
Post by: munks on 14 March 2011, 19:54
Havent got any pics on me new phone!
Only one i have is this! click the link bellow!  :rolleyes:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/61847_475253276012_509936012_7192104_2197396_n.jpg