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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: laurenceyon on 22 February 2011, 00:10

Title: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: laurenceyon on 22 February 2011, 00:10
Hi gents

I'm seriously thinking of doing the conversion, I love the originality of my valver however the reliability stinks!

In your humble and educated opinion's, what are the pros and cons of the conversion?

Will I lose the fun factor in the high rev range that I so love?
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Sam on 22 February 2011, 00:18
You are about to get a 1000 word essay from a man who on here is as faceless as the stig. Cue DH.....
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: rubjonny on 22 February 2011, 09:44
k-jet = easy to wire in, thats just about it really
digi = easy to setup as no co or ignition tuning required, all ecu controlled

digi has proper knock control so its better able to keep the abf healthy, k-jet you need to keep on top of it to stop the think knocking itself to death. to tune k-jet properly you need access to k-jet fuel pressure test gauges.

I've run mine on both, and digi wins for me
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Diamond Hell on 22 February 2011, 13:57
You are about to get a 1000 word essay from a man who on here is as faceless as the stig. Cue DH.....

CBA.  Use the search, you idle c*nts.
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Sam on 22 February 2011, 14:23
You are about to get a 1000 word essay from a man who on here is as faceless as the stig. Cue DH.....

CBA.  Use the search, you idle c*nts.

OMFG, thats a first for you thomas  :grin:

 Oh and jonny, you ruined it  :angry:
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: danny_p on 22 February 2011, 15:24
I have also run out of botherd on this subject
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: emery1990 on 22 February 2011, 15:45
You will gain fun factor not loose it! Plenty more torque, dont fuel it with k-jet, its old and fiddly.
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Wayne on 22 February 2011, 15:51
If your going to fit a ABF run it on proper / factory management instead of k jet
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: mk2bal on 22 February 2011, 16:44
If your kjet setup is working fine, and you want the conversion done in a day, leave it on kjet. If you want a bit better fuel economy, go for digi.however, a digi loom is then needed and all digi ancillaries, the loom then needs splicing in to yours before plugging into the engine, and really you've got to take your dash out to do this..I had to remove dash to do my kjet, as it was a carb before. I used a complete kr car for everything I needed. Had I known what I know now I'd have prob done it digi, as I don't plan to sell the car etc etc, so the extra work would have been worth it to me..
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Wayne on 22 February 2011, 20:45
If your kjet setup is working fine, and you want the conversion done in a day, leave it on kjet. If you want a bit better fuel economy, go for digi.however, a digi loom is then needed and all digi ancillaries, the loom then needs splicing in to yours before plugging into the engine, and really you've got to take your dash out to do this..I had to remove dash to do my kjet, as it was a carb before. I used a complete kr car for everything I needed. Had I known what I know now I'd have prob done it digi, as I don't plan to sell the car etc etc, so the extra work would have been worth it to me..

I believe later cars are plug and play so easier.
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: mk2bal on 22 February 2011, 22:22
Think there's still a bit of adapting isn't there? sure I've read rj saying he makes them up with a wee bit of modifying.. But in general, kjet allows matey to just buy the engine (rocker to sump) and fit it in no time, the digi is guna be a bit more of a conversion, dash and loom out etc, plus will be a few quid more to buy cos there's a lot more parts needed for the job.
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Simeon on 22 February 2011, 23:32
Don't need to take the dash out. It's pretty much plug and play, just a few alterations needed .. all covered in a thread I started in this section just before christmas. As for cost ... a complete abf engine/gearbox/everything just finished on ebay for £226, 'nuff said ;)
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2011, 00:01

But in general, kjet allows matey to just buy the engine (rocker to sump) and fit it in no time, the digi is guna be a bit more of a conversion, dash and loom out etc, plus will be a few quid more to buy cos there's a lot more parts needed for the job.


I would not be happy running an ABF on k jet, dash can stay in plus if you look around they are not expensive.
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: rubjonny on 23 February 2011, 10:08
it is mostly plug n play, you could prob get away without changing anythign but a few bits are different, mainly the battery cables are in mk3 enghine loom and wiper loom is different length. i always remove the battwery cables and use mk2 ones from lighting loom instead, plus i bin the mk3 coil and use the mk2 one instead. swap ove the mk2 wiper loom plus a few other tweaks.  makes for a neater install but as i say you could manage without
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: laurenceyon on 23 February 2011, 21:12
Thanks for all your help guys - much appreciated.. However, I've decided to let her go.. If I was to keep the 16V K-Jet Golf madness, the next job on my list would be to do a complete ABF conversion. WeiTec Coilovers, respray and polised BBS Alloys with streched tyres... However:

A vast amount of my disposable income goes into the old girl and I can't justify it to myself anymore.  :cry:

If anyone is looking for a half decent MK2 Valver click here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280634695788&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

After having bought my first Atlas Grey Mk2 8V seven years ago... My MK2 Golf days are over :(

I love you.




Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2011, 23:05
Thanks for all your help guys - much appreciated.. However, I've decided to let her go.. If I was to keep the 16V K-Jet Golf madness, the next job on my list would be to do a complete ABF conversion. WeiTec Coilovers, respray and polised BBS Alloys with streched tyres... However:

A vast amount of my disposable income goes into the old girl and I can't justify it to myself anymore.  :cry:

If anyone is looking for a half decent MK2 Valver click here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280634695788&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

After having bought my first Atlas Grey Mk2 8V seven years ago... My MK2 Golf days are over :(

I love you.


Seems a shame to sell up after all the work etc,  :cry:

Hope the auction goes well.
Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 24 February 2011, 18:40
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Title: Re: 16v k-jet vs 16v ABF
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 February 2011, 09:28
You are about to get a 1000 word essay from a man who on here is as faceless as the stig. Cue DH.....

CBA.  Use the search, you idle c*nts.

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