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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: al_bey on 16 February 2011, 18:33

Title: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: al_bey on 16 February 2011, 18:33
After replacing the track rod on the drivers side, i have noticed that both of the boots (inner and outer) are split. The one on the CV boot i did today when putting the wheels on full lock when the whole front was jacked up. :cry:

Is it easyier to buy a second hand driveshaft and replace the whole lot, or to do both boots as a kit?

Also how hard is it to replace the driveshaft?

Thanks in advance

Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 16 February 2011, 18:42
its very fiddly replacing the inner boot with shaft connected. Remove the entire shaft by undoing the inner cv bolts which are 8mm spline, undo the hub nut at other end(while car is on the ground with wheel on) and the lower ball joint (three 13mm bolts/nuts) separate driveshaft from hub(can be thricky, try a hub puller).
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 16 February 2011, 18:44
Just to add, if the boots have been split a while, best to get new cv joints.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: al_bey on 16 February 2011, 18:47
Cheers for the advice, i think i might just buy a new driveshaft (2nd hand) with both CV's attatched, then it saves a lot of messing around......
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 16 February 2011, 18:59
good idea, just try and be sure you get a good condition before you pay (ie ebay)  :cool:
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 16 February 2011, 21:32
No need to replace cv joints, unless they are knocking.
Make sure you clean the joints out thoroughly with parafin or white spirit.
As already said, remove the shaft from the car first.
Can you actually change the inner boot with the shaft still on the car??
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 16 February 2011, 21:35
yes you can but it is very tricky fiddly getting the circlip on.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: al_bey on 16 February 2011, 21:46
I don't have any knocking, so you suggest i just buy the kit to re-do the boots?
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 16 February 2011, 21:49
yes you can but it is very tricky fiddly getting the circlip on.

I found it fiddly enough with the shaft off the car  :grin:
I'd like to see someone try with it in situ  :grin:
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 16 February 2011, 21:50
I don't have any knocking, so you suggest i just buy the kit to re-do the boots?

Yes, but make sure you clean out the joints thoroughly with a solvent.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 16 February 2011, 21:57
yes you can but it is very tricky fiddly getting the circlip on.

I found it fiddly enough with the shaft off the car  :grin:
I'd like to see someone try with it in situ  :grin:


I did it myself on the roadside in 0 degrees weather a couple of weeks ago. I mentioned on here about my gearbox prob, so had to put another box on and a new joint.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 16 February 2011, 22:04
I must admit tho I would not recommend it i was covered in blood and grease and i had a f**kin awful stiff neck and back. took me an hour just to get the clip on  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: al_bey on 24 February 2011, 13:52
I have just bought a 2nd hand drive shaft from ebay, complete with CV joints and boots in tact. Can someone please confirm whether it is just a like for like swap? I read something about the CV boots being glued or something? I'm going to fit it tomorrow, any advice before i start?

Cheers
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: rubjonny on 24 February 2011, 14:04
what shaft was it you bought?
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 24 February 2011, 14:56
I have just bought a 2nd hand drive shaft from ebay, complete with CV joints and boots in tact. Can someone please confirm whether it is just a like for like swap? I read something about the CV boots being glued or something? I'm going to fit it tomorrow, any advice before i start?

Cheers

Yes it is just a swap. My advice is make sure you get the right tool for the inner cv bolts. Iis a spline fitting tool size 8( I think). Its not torx. When doing them up, go opposites and torque them gradually and evenly.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: al_bey on 24 February 2011, 15:45
what shaft was it you bou

Just an identical one from an 8V Gti.

I have just bought a 2nd hand drive shaft from ebay, complete with CV joints and boots in tact. Can someone please confirm whether it is just a like for like swap? I read something about the CV boots being glued or something? I'm going to fit it tomorrow, any advice before i start?

Cheers

Yes it is just a swap. My advice is make sure you get the right tool for the inner cv bolts. Iis a spline fitting tool size 8( I think). Its not torx. When doing them up, go opposites and torque them gradually and evenly.


OK thanks mate, I'll go and but the right spline tool tonight, by 8, do you mean 8mm?


Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 24 February 2011, 15:50
I think so yes. The one I used had an 8 on it, so I presume its 8 mm.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: rubjonny on 24 February 2011, 16:05
ok, straight swap then. some have the cv glued to the hub, but im pretty sure this is only done on some VR6 models.

very worst case leave the cv in the hub, tap out old shaft and either rebuild it with new cvs or tap off the outer cv on the replacement shaft and swap it over after fitting a good outer cv boot
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: al_bey on 24 February 2011, 16:09
Ok, cheers guys.

i might take photo's while im doing it as i struggled to find a guide online.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 24 February 2011, 17:17
never heard of cv being glued before?!
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: rubjonny on 25 February 2011, 10:01
cv glued into hub, not cv glued to shaft ;)
as i say its done on some VR6 models, i have no idea why but there you go
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 25 February 2011, 11:20
What Jon means is on some models the splines have loctite put on them from factory.
The outer cv joint splines that is.
I've seen this on a mk3 gti 16v, as well as a vr6.
I needed a hub puller to separate the shaft from the hub both times.
Title: Re: Drive shaft / CV Boots
Post by: harlemex on 25 February 2011, 16:20
I see what you mean now. I needed a hub puller too,thought this was because the shafts are wedge shape, and they get quite literally wedge right in./  :laugh: