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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: recci on 13 February 2011, 23:35
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Is there an easy way to tell if the advertised TDI GT 150 is a genuine 150 and not a 130 advertised as a 150? As there seems to be a lot of this going on. Iv put a few registration numbers of autotrader into free car check ect and they are listed a pd130's and not 150 so I'm not sure is the database they are using is incorrect or what.
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Only way is to check the engine code. Ask the seller this or get them to take a picture of either the front of the service book where the codes are listed, the sticker in the spare wheel well or the tag on the engine block itself
If there are pics of the engine bay then you can tell from that as the 150 pipework wraps back around the front of the engine bay
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Or go for the 130 and get it remapped.
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Or go for the 130 and get it remapped.
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Only way is to check the engine code. Ask the seller this or get them to take a picture of either the front of the service book where the codes are listed, the sticker in the spare wheel well or the tag on the engine block itself
If there are pics of the engine bay then you can tell from that as the 150 pipework wraps back around the front of the engine bay
How do you actually go about checking the engine code once you have it?
Got any picutures of both engine bays so I can see the difference?
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Or go for the 130 and get it remapped.
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At least with a 130 you don't get camshaft problems
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Or go for the 130 and get it remapped.
or i could just go for a 150 and get that remapped!
I want the 150 I see no point in going for second best!
The car I buy has to be a genuine TDI pd 150 fully loaded with full factory fitted leather interior....the works.....not gonna sell myself short on this no matter how long it takes to find a good one.
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Only way is to check the engine code. Ask the seller this or get them to take a picture of either the front of the service book where the codes are listed, the sticker in the spare wheel well or the tag on the engine block itself
If there are pics of the engine bay then you can tell from that as the 150 pipework wraps back around the front of the engine bay
How do you actually go about checking the engine code once you have it?
Got any picutures of both engine bays so I can see the difference?
ASZ = 130
ARL = 150
130 engine bay (ignore the blue pipe; its black and plastic on standard cars)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/DSC00261.jpg)
150 engine bay
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff48/dittaa2/07082010%20Engine%20running/IMG00323-20100808-1858Medium.jpg)
Again the metal pipes are plastic on standard cars but the route is the same
Or go for the 130 and get it remapped.
or i could just go for a 150 and get that remapped!
I want the 150 I see no point in going for second best!
The car I buy has to be a genuine TDI pd 150 fully loaded with full factory fitted leather interior....the works.....not gonna sell myself short on this no matter how long it takes to find a good one.
Hardly 2nd best :rolleyes:
Good luck with your search. Fully loaded 150's are few and far between unless they got galactic mileage
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So does the 150 have a front mounted intercooler as standard.
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So does the 150 have a front mounted intercooler as standard.
It does and is very good apparently too :smiley:
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Thanks Rhyso.
Im not saying there is anything wrong with the 130, probably is the best all round but If Im gonna spend up to 5k on a 7 or 8 year old car I want to get something Ill be truly be happy with and to me thats the 150 fully loaded. then get it mapped to 190bhp :evil:
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I don't know much personally, but most peoples comments are go for the 130 over the 150 :smiley:
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I wanted a 150 untill i read about the problems they have so i went for the 130 which are less prone to cam failure :sick:
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Thanks Rhyso.
Im not saying there is anything wrong with the 130, probably is the best all round but If Im gonna spend up to 5k on a 7 or 8 year old car I want to get something Ill be truly be happy with and to me thats the 150 fully loaded. then get it mapped to 190bhp :evil:
Why stop at 190bhp?? :tongue:
300bhp PD Golf (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/193610/1257316.aspx#1257316) :evil: :evil:
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God dammit! Missed this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2499592.htm and it was only 8 miles from my home, A guys flying up from LONDON to buy it! Damit!!
I was searching that site last night and I did'nt see it.
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God dammit! Missed this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2499592.htm and it was only 8 miles from my home, A guys flying up from LONDON to buy it! Damit!!
I was searching that site last night and I did'nt see it.
Gutted :sad: That's a lot of car for the money too! And low miles :shocked:
Hopefully the guy won't make his flight........
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Its exaclty what IM looking for in every way, even the colour ! i was searching piston heads all last week. it must have just apeared and was sold right away.
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The 130 also suffers from the camshaft problems as well.
If you are looking to remap your car the 130 always sees the highest torque figger over the 150.
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If you are looking to remap your car the 130 always sees the highest torque figger over the 150.
:shocked: is that correct, I wonder why that would be.
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If you are looking to remap your car the 130 always sees the highest torque figger over the 150.
:shocked: is that correct, I wonder why that would be.
Ay. Most 130's will see over 310lbs ft torque. 150's tend to max out at around 295ish :undecided:
Not sure why. Possibly because the turbo starts spooling earlier :undecided: I'm sure someone will be along with a more technical explanation :nerd:
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If you are looking to remap your car the 130 always sees the highest torque figger over the 150.
:shocked: is that correct, I wonder why that would be.
Ay. Most 130's will see over 310lbs ft torque. 150's tend to max out at around 295ish :undecided:
Not sure why. Possibly because the turbo starts spooling earlier :undecided: I'm sure someone will be along with a more technical explanation :nerd:
Interesting, cheers for the info :afro:
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I ended up going an seeing this car on my launch break:
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_popup.jsp?did=685&pageid=4&originalid=&gid=nogroup&tid=20&start=3&distance=0&adcategory=cars&channel=DEALERPAGE&id=201105378498457
Its a genuie 150, not leather interior but has the ARL engine code, 70k on the clock. got the MOT number and did a mot histroy check. Milage checks out.
The car has a service history although the there is 30k miles between the second last and last entry which is worrying but maybe it just wasn’t stamped. Was mot'd in that time between stamps twice which it passed with no advisories. The toothed belt which I assume is the timing belt was changed around 30k so I assume at 70k it will be due another one?
Looks good on the outside especially with those 17" alloys but inside its seems quite worn and well used and breaks look a bit rusty through the alloys although I’m not sure if that’s an issue.
The car is due another mot and service which the garage owner says he will give me if i buy it.
Not sure though, on the plus side 70k on the clock is good but not if it needs a cam belt.
I think 5 grand is a bit steep for this car? Maybe if I could knock a grand off the price and get the mot and service then it would be a good buy?
If only knew a Golf mechanic or enthusiast around the central Scotland that could help me make a judgement :embarassed:
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Over priced
Wheels are the Santa Monica's. Awesome wheels but prone to corrosion so a refurb will be needed sooner rather than later
No xenons, leather etc
I'd walk away as I doubt you'll haggle a grand off the price and get it serviced and MOT'd :undecided:
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Yeh it is overpriced thats why I just went to look at it today and been up forsale for a couple of weeks.
Assuming it did get MOT'd and serviced what sort price do you think its worth?
Im waiting to see what else comes on the market though.
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£4200; £4500 tops :undecided:
Cambelt will need doing shortly so there's another £300
If you're not 100% happy with it then walk away. It doesn't seem like it at the moment but your perfect Golf is out there :smiley:
Also make sure you drive as many of the same variant's as possible. You'll be shocked at the difference in performance between them :shocked:
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God dammit! Missed this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2499592.htm and it was only 8 miles from my home, A guys flying up from LONDON to buy it! Damit!!
I was searching that site last night and I did'nt see it.
But you want the "works" as you put it, that dont have the rear arm rest :laugh:
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If you're not 100% happy with it then walk away. It doesn't seem like it at the moment but your perfect Golf is out there :smiley:
LOL yep your correct I was'nt gonna buy it anyway. My dream golf was 8 miles away and was just sold to guy from 400 miles away :angry:
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make sure you get a 150 which has been serviced every 10k minimum!
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I have an 04 150bhp ARL with 167k on the clock was getting serviced every 2 months within its first 2 years.. Not skipped a beat so far with me.. never had cam problems.. i read up a lot on this and was told it was mainly the cars on long service and not fixed service intervals.. My cars never had the camshafts changed..
As said earlier the 130 and 150 share exactly the same head so are prone to the same camshafts problems..
I have the graph for my car and for a 150bhp car it made 196bhp and 309 ft/lbs of torque..
Get the 150 if you can.. but as i was told dont be put off mileage as long as its been well looked after !!
Dan
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They seem to want even more for a Leon Cupra than they do for a Golf! And the Leons almost never have leather or the added extras that golfs have.
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I have digital climate control.. Folding mirrors no golf has this extra.. They are also heated and electric.. Cruise-control.. Mk5 golf style boot opening.. Etc etc.. The only thing I don't have is leather or arm rest..
I've also never seen a Leon with leather
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Tech, you'll have too bring that beaut down southend sometime so I can have a looksie :grin:
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Iv seen a couple leons with leather on autotrader but they were wanting 6k + for them so forget it :sick:
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Why not buy one without leather and then fit leather
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Well thats an option, If i find a golf thats perferct in every other way then I might do that. The sisters boy friend has a golf tdi 130 with full leather that he will probably trade in soon I might ask him if he would be willing to do an interior swap at that point.
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I have the graph for my car and for a 150bhp car it made 196bhp and 309 ft/lbs of torque..
Get the 150 if you can.. but as i was told dont be put off mileage as long as its been well looked after !!
Dan
mine made the same figures 196bhp and 309 ft of torque bizarre
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Just made a deal to buy an 02, 25th anniversary edition with 110k on the clock, Camshaft replaced at 85k and timing belt changed at 97k all with receipts ect. Car is mint with only a little corrosion on the alloys. Paying £4600 Do you think I'm paying too much?
Car is a dream machine tho :evil:....
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Just made a deal to buy an 02, 25th anniversary edition with 110k on the clock, Camshaft replaced at 85k and timing belt changed at 97k all with receipts ect. Car is mint with only a little corrosion on the alloys. Paying £4600 Do you think I'm paying too much?
Car is a dream machine tho :evil:....
Seems a lot :undecided: but Anni's are worth more.
I guess looking at it one way it is £4600 for a 9 year old car with 110k on the clock, does seem expensive.
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Just made a deal to buy an 02, 25th anniversary edition with 110k on the clock, Camshaft replaced at 85k and timing belt changed at 97k all with receipts ect. Car is mint with only a little corrosion on the alloys. Paying £4600 Do you think I'm paying too much?
Car is a dream machine tho :evil:....
Seems a lot :undecided: but Anni's are worth more.
I guess looking at it one way it is £4600 for a 9 year old car with 110k on the clock, does seem expensive.
Anni prices have plummeted recently!!
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Its not 110k It actually 100.856 but yeh I agree it does seem a lot but considering I can hardly find a normal pd 150 for less 4k at around the same mileage then It seems not to bad
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Wayne, plenty of people said dont worry bout the miles too much tho? :shocked:
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Wayne, plenty of people said dont worry bout the miles too much tho? :shocked:
The miles with the work carried out is not the issue more the price tbh.
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he was originally asking 5200 for it! And Iv seen a couple go for 6k+ with 80k on the clock
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then go for smaller miles? Obv just tryin too make a quick buck, not like ur only spending a few pennies mate!
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I dont think he is, he has had it for 4 years, I just think he realised that £5200 was too much so accpetd a lower offer.
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Recci.......
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=183597.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=183597.0)
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^^^ whats that got to do with it? thats a 2001 petrol :huh:
I think its a fair price for it considering the amount of work its recently had done.
I dread to think what mines worth :lipsrsealed: most properly less than a quarter of what I paid for it less than 3 years ago :cry:
When I bought my car almost diesel anni's where 11k
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201108380319476/sort/locasc/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/model/golf/make/volkswagen/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/ba213sf?logcode=p
If anyone buys this they will be in for a shock at the work that's been done and the seller doesn't know whats been done :cry: My old motor.
Although the seat looks a tad worn, wasn't when I traded it in.
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201108380319476/sort/locasc/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/model/golf/make/volkswagen/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/ba213sf?logcode=p
If anyone buys this they will be in for a shock at the work that's been done and the seller doesn't know whats been done :cry: My old motor.
Although the seat looks a tad worn, wasn't when I traded it in.
Why the hell did u let them have it with those rims lol? You had that remapped n all sorts, shocking! They've got that for a bargain Ad lol
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201108380319476/sort/locasc/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/model/golf/make/volkswagen/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/ba213sf?logcode=p
If anyone buys this they will be in for a shock at the work that's been done and the seller doesn't know whats been done :cry: My old motor.
Although the seat looks a tad worn, wasn't when I traded it in.
Not the greatest of adverts is it really, did you tell them what had been done.
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Ended up getting the 25th anni, Love the car and pleased with how much I paid. According to this thread on another forum: http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/407471.aspx?PageIndex=1
Im paying to little for an anni and there must be something wrong with it to get it for that price. But so far so good, so hopfully it wont need much done for at least 6 months.
Will post pic when I get them.
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Ended up getting the 25th anni, Love the car and pleased with how much I paid. According to this thread on another forum: http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/407471.aspx?PageIndex=1
Im paying to little for an anni and there must be something wrong with it to get it for that price. But so far so good, so hopfully it wont need much done for at least 6 months.
Will post pic when I get them.
Yes but asking on a VW forum what it is worth will get you many answers but in terms of what it is really worth you need to look at parkers etc.
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This is true, I probably paid a bit extra for the privelage of it being an anni!
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(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0008.jpg)here are some photos, As I said clearly not mint and I think the pics actually looks worse than in the flesh
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0011.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0005.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0009.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0006.jpg)
Alloys will need refurbished
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0012.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/radio91/Golf%20GTI%20TDI%2025th%2025th%20anniversary%20edition/DSCF0010.jpg)
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:cool: :cool: :cool:
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Very nice :cool:
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thats a beaut :cool: :cool: