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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: mark2two on 08 February 2011, 12:51
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Hi, I have an F reg ABF running on K-Jet, it has been port n polished, stainless manifold. Is there an upgrade for the injectors, I have read other posts about this but they are on 9a's, 8v's and not specific to my setup.
can anybody help with this, thanks.
Mark
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all the injectors that fit are the same flow rate anyway, but if you still have the original mk2 injectors well worth buying new ones. can get Mercedes brass ones off ebay for reasonable money
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Is there an upgrade for the injectors,
Yes, a proper EFI system. :grin:
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Is there an upgrade for the injectors,
Yes, a proper EFI system. :grin:
eh shutup!.. nowt wrong with K-jet :cool:
Not much right with it either though. :grin:
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Not much right with it?? Ok, so if your starting from scratch its worth going digi provided you can get a complete setup cheap enough, or get it with the abf. However its a much better idea than going megasquirt, and if your car is already a kjet 1.8 16v say, the fact its a days work instead of having the dash out and rewiring the engine loom in etc, is much less agro than going digi. For a gnats cock more bhp it just isn't worth it. Plus digi isn't always that reliable, I've seen many a thread on digi probs, at least with kjet you can normally work it out without being an auto electrician...
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I'll tell you whether it's worth it , best be :grin:
Looking back at it the wirings soooooooooooo simple, god knows how its taken me a few months.
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For the money and time spent you should have 20vt'd it. I understand dropping a complete abf setup in, or dropping it in on kjet, but unless you've got serious time and rollers to use (free preferably) then I don't see the point for An extra 10bhp. I'd rather strip my interior out for the equivalent gain.. I'd only ms a 16vturbo for the full control, but I wouldn't even do that either I'd sooner 20vt it...
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How much would it be on average to 20vt it ?
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How long is a piece of string?? It depends on how you buy it, wether you rebuild and forge it, wether you buy all new and individually, wether you have an 02a box and hydro clutch etc already, or if your converting that as well, exhaust, downpipe etc etc etc. I'd try and buy 1 in a doggy shell/ crashed one and get it for a good price and slap it in mine. My mate broke his 20vt, and sold everything for the conversion for 1500quid!! That included the rolling shell with coilovers etc, even an lsd'd box with rebuilt gear ratios using vr6 16v and a diesel 5th gear (apparently) full qpeng setup, lock stock the whole f**king lot!!! Jus after another mate snapped it up for his mk2, my 1.3 blew up, and what with my kr donor car, dodgey 9a, and now abf, plus loadsa sundries and ancillaries I've prob nearly spent that.. doh
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lol. I'm not too keen on the 1.8t in the mk2 anyway, obviously fast but just think itll be too mental.
Heard good things from megasquirt, giving you increased torque across the hole rev range whilst still keeping it a 2.0 valver
Ohwell is only going to cost me £500, exhaust price isnt it, which does what exactly? lol Only reason i done it was because my 9A was running lean up top and felt crap, kept on stalling all the time so just thought I'd be best to bin, it isnt really hard to fit in in now I look back, just where I knew nothing about cars lol I won't put it on the dyno, people have got like 155bhp out of 80% tune so thatll do me, if I keep it then I'll get it dynoed. One blocks abf had 175bhp with 160ftlb and just standard.
Heard people spending over 3k for a 20vt conversion. But yer your seemed to have a good deal lol specially with an lsd aswell! as youll need that anyway.
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Yeah there's no denying ms is the way forward nowadays.. Spose we don't want too many other abf mk2's about, else we wont have the edge..plus I don't think there's enough abf's to go around for every1!!
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TBO i'll take back my comment of not much being right with K-jet.. None of my jetted cars have ever had a issue with fueling... My current motor runs a stage 3 head and I know the only real drag is limitations on top end fueling going any furthur than this. Also MPG isn't as great in a K-Jet compared to Digi.
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From results I've now seen, all I read was a standard abf making 175bhp on standard gear and thought yer 15bhp increase. but now seen people getting normal result like 160bhp.
Yer my kjet wasnt fuelling enough for my 9a.
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My kjet abf seems to be ok at the mo,the 9a did pink on wot on hot summer days last year though, on the exact same setup on the exact same settings.. It absolutely rinses fuel, but to be fair it is overfuelling. The wur needs doing, and it stinks of fuel from the exhaust.. Going to set the pressures as per the wur mod guide, then weld a lambda boss on and use a wideband to check its ok at top end...it makes soooo much differnce to mpg when hammered tho, and I can't help hammering it.. Reading this back I can imagine I'm going to have probs in the summer, its overfuelling so I've got to back it off, but it pinked on the 9a as it is last year, so backing off the fuelling isnt going to help..hmmm....doh
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Yer mine pinked too, dunno what the mechanic done, (retarded it) but when it came back it was slower :( I wouldnt surprised if it was running 140ish lol as a vts seemed a bit fast along side me! which are 125.
Haha yer I tried to promise myself not to boot it but is impossible I think :undecided:
If you build the ecu itll costs peanuts if done on an abf anyway. I rekon about £300.
http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226056 second graph down on this boys ms is hoping to make 175bhp, about 20bhp other standard, so pretty good. Mine only costs a more as it was done on a 9A.