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Title: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Seanl on 01 February 2011, 19:24
I have some rust under the seal on my 3 door quarter window. I am gonna remove it and treat it before spraying it back up, and want to do it all myself when weather permits. Has anyone done this before? if so, how do you do it??? Thanks
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2011, 20:25
I am 99% sure they are bonded on so you need a specialist to remove and refit them  :smiley:
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Seanl on 01 February 2011, 21:00
How do you mean bonded? it looks like it is from the inside by a black sealer/silicone but can that not be just cut out and re-bonded then??
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2011, 23:41
How do you mean bonded? it looks like it is from the inside by a black sealer/silicone but can that not be just cut out and re-bonded then??

Yes but windscreen companys have the proper stuff.
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: rubjonny on 02 February 2011, 13:36
yeah they're bonded in like the windscreen is. from what i have heard the surround will need replacing if you take the glass out, which only comes on new glass? you'll see what i mean when you look at your car
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: harlemex on 02 February 2011, 14:21
Is that the rubber that goes all the way round the outside? Mine has perished.  :sick:
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: rubjonny on 02 February 2011, 14:46
yeah i think so, i might be wrong on that one but am sure thats what someone said a while ago
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Seanl on 02 February 2011, 15:50
yeah I know what your talking about. It looks like it has started to crumble a little where the rust is. No way of doing this myself then? How much is that likely to cost me to have it removed then replaced, any ideas!?
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: rubjonny on 02 February 2011, 15:57
its doable but its a real bastard of a job without the specialist equipment. was in the scrappy one time and these polish chaps were trying to get the screen out of a passat in the morning. i went home and came back a couple hours later and they were still at it! then just as they got 3/4 of the way round they cracked the screen. Doooooohhh!!!  :cry:
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Seanl on 02 February 2011, 16:06
Really dont fancy that! May try it when the weather gets better. What specialist tools are required? Thought I would have been able to just dig out all the sealant on the inside, have the missus ready to catch (I can that going horribly wrong!!) and pushing it out. Fitting would be the reverse as the saying goes! Obviously suction pads (or whatever they're called) to hold the window would be better, but surely not essential!?
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2011, 16:17
Really dont fancy that! May try it when the weather gets better. What specialist tools are required? Thought I would have been able to just dig out all the sealant on the inside, have the missus ready to catch (I can that going horribly wrong!!) and pushing it out. Fitting would be the reverse as the saying goes! Obviously suction pads (or whatever they're called) to hold the window would be better, but surely not essential!?

They use cheese wire to cut the sealant  :smiley: but it is still better left to a pro
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Seanl on 02 February 2011, 16:20
Think I can improvise there! :grin:
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Paul86S2 on 02 February 2011, 23:13
You can use cheese wire or similar or you can buy a proper tool off of ebay. You can also buy the bonding stuff on ebay. Some of the perspex window suppliers sell it. You will need to buy the etching primer for the metal surface and the primer for the glass. Some of the tubes of bonder come with this.
As said you will have to be very careful with the outside rubber bit.
Remember the window is heavy it would be wise to pad the floor.
Also remember you will need to hold the window onto the car while the bonder sets. It is quick though so you won't be stuck there for ages.

Might have been tempted to get the professionals in if mine wasn't having perspex windows put in.

Are you sure you will get rid of the rust properly and make all this worthwhile?

Paul
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2011, 23:54
Most of the bonding kits advise leaving the car for 24hrs before using it.
Title: Re: 3 door quarter window removal
Post by: Seanl on 03 February 2011, 06:48
Thanks for the advice. I will get a proper bonding kit then. I have some kururst, a grinder with sanding pads, and some wet and dry with various grits so I plan to do it all properly, and I'm pretty confident I can remove the rust from the affected area. When I put the window back in I will give the bonding the proper time to cure also. I may as well find out how much it will cost me to get it done professionally, as if it's not to expensive it will give me piece of mind but thanks for all your help guys