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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: -HellRaza- on 27 February 2005, 21:52
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hey
im the 'fairly' irritated owner of a mint silver 1991 mk2 1.3 golf, good miles, ive had for almost 2 years now, and has done me proud, but now its just a pain in the arse!... so much so, i darent go anywhere due to being afraid of it breaking down! still, ill get to the point!...
i get the impression its going to need the following replaced.. and before you say 'it isnt worth it!,' well i need to sell this (500ish) thing for as much as possible (saving for my next car, which, im afraid isnt a veedub, but it is german :wink:), and if im right, it shouldnt cost too much either... :smiley:
the major problem is that i get the impression the head gasket is in serious need of being replaced, as there is hell of alot mayo on the filler cap, but for some reason no sign of any leaks/or any water being used... there is however oil leaking from the cylinder head, the gasket seems fine.... but what i need to know is -, is replacing the head gasket an easyish job?? its not a particularly complex engine, and i have my trusty haynes manual/tools... :rolleyes:!
then second major problem is that the car has been suffering from 'carb icing' for quite a while, and its getting worse... so what course of action should i take?? is it possible to refurbish my original unit (pierburg 2e2)?? what would i need to do?? if not, how much would a refurbished unit (if its possible to get one?!!) cost?... and where am i gonna get one from?!
another problem ive found is that there is a distinct smell of petrol, which makes its way through the blower... would this be carb related?? or is there more to it?!
other things that need to be done is a damn good clean, and new pads/discs, but thankfully all the issues can be solved by me/my trainee mechanic brother... so labour costs arent an issue!
anyway, i would really appreciate any advice, especially with the carb issue...
cheers
Alex
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the major problem is that i get the impression the head gasket is in serious need of being replaced, as there is hell of alot mayo on the filler cap, but for some reason no sign of any leaks/or any water being used... there is however oil leaking from the cylinder head, the gasket seems fine.... but what i need to know is -, is replacing the head gasket an easyish job?? its not a particularly complex engine, and i have my trusty haynes manual/tools... :rolleyes:!
I used to have a 1.3 in my Golf before doing a 16v conversion, and although I never changed the headgasket in the 1.3 I have dismantled the engine. Is a relatively simple job, all parts availble from GSF. Just set aside a weekend to be safe, buy new head bolts, head gasket etc and make sure (this is very important) that you get the head skimmed (mine cost ?40 on a 16v 'KR'). Otherwise, judging by how much it appears to have gone already, it WILL go again (belive me ive been there :cry:).
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then second major problem is that the car has been suffering from 'carb icing' for quite a while, and its getting worse... so what course of action should i take?? is it possible to refurbish my original unit (pierburg 2e2)?? what would i need to do?? if not, how much would a refurbished unit (if its possible to get one?!!) cost?... and where am i gonna get one from?!
another problem ive found is that there is a distinct smell of petrol, which makes its way through the blower... would this be carb related?? or is there more to it?!
For a replacement carb (?100 + ?7.50 P&P)......see:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9889&item=4531025463&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Personally wouldn't bother refurbing carb - although mine did run better after i removed it and cleaned it with petrol and a toothbursh. Likewise, there are books (see Halfords) about rebuilding these units available.
Petrol smell probably because the carb is overfuelling, they are renowned for buggering up and needing setting up on a regular basis.
hope this all helps :wink:
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Whats involved when 'skimming' the head?? it didnt occur to me that, when it came to changing the head gasket, id have to do more than simply remove the old one and bung on a new one!....
as for the carb, a ?100 seems a bit steep, im on a serious budget as im furiously saving for my next car (which will hopefully prove to be less of a pain, and more of a pleasure!) before i get stuck with a golf that doesnt move...! i know it seems daft, but the more i spend on this heap, the more time im gonna have to keep working my arse off to get my next car/insurance! it might prove easier, and less costing if i attempt to refurbish the old unit (will have to go look for that book you mentioned!) before i go throwing my money at another one....
thanks for the help, it really is appreciated!
Alex
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Its not always necessary to skim the head.
Check it is flat and that there is no damage.
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But for the sake of a small amount of money it is prudent to have it skimmed for peace of mind, you dont want the gasket to fail after all your hard graft!
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the major problem is that i get the impression the head gasket is in serious need of being replaced, as there is hell of alot mayo on the filler cap, but for some reason no sign of any leaks/or any water being used... there is however oil leaking from the cylinder head, the gasket seems fine....
Do you do short trips in it? long drives etc? Oil leaking from the top or the bottom of the head?
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Im no expert and ive never worked on carbs but i think some have an electrical pre warm up thing that stops them icing. Kinda looks like a little hedgehog. Worth checking out if yours has one and if its working.
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There is also a pipe that goes to the exhaust shroud on the manifold. There is a flap inside the air intake with an air temp sensor, if the temp is low then it opens up to the warm air intake, and closes the normal air intake.
Check this is all working and intact.
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Its not always necessary to skim the head.
Check it is flat and that there is no damage.
It is really difficult to check a cylinder head which may be 1-3 thou out! (i.e. 1-3 thousanths of 1 inch!). I mean im not blind, i guess my eyes are ok, but this is nearly impossible to see. how can you expect to do this without some sort of error in judgement?? For the sake of ?40 its worth the piece of mind. I had the same problem with mine on my valver, didnt get head skimmed and it went within 100 miles. And it was only 3-4 thou out!!!!!! up to you just my 2 cents :wink:
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Don't agree with you there mate :laugh:
Try buying a decent steel rule, a very small amount of distortion is allowed.
If you use geniune parts it shouldn't blow again.
Its up to you, skim or not to skim, 40 quid sounds quite cheap.
I've done a fair few gaskets, never had to skim a head yet, never had a problem.
Most the time the gaskets go again because people don't know how to do the job properly.
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hey,
wow, thanx for the suggestions guys, im so glad i joined this site as ive had so much help, and picked up so many helpful tips, so give yourselves a pat on the back from me! and to those who set this site up, Thankyou... i think we all owe you guys/gals a pint!
so decisions decisions!, im gonna go get the gasket (what else is required?, head bolts, the gasket itself, is there anything else i need??), take it all apart and go from there, if i need to skim the heap then ill stick it all together with the new gasket and go get it skimmed asap!
i have a load of other stuff to get sorted, the most major of those is the brakes (disks and pads) as ive been driving round with them grinding for ages...! :sad:! and as of today, (thankyou kwikfit :angry:) ive gotta go get my downpipe replaced AGAIN... 3rd time since ive had the car, im only going there again as its under warranty! but tis a pain in the arse...
on the carb front, ill have a look at it, do what you guys suggested, and if it improves, great, if not then a recon it is!, luckily i live 10miles from a Vw specialist, so ill get one from them... maybe...
anyway...
hopefully after all this ill be happy with the car, and it will be good enough to sell and make way for my next car!
thanks again guys
Alex
p.s oh and if you were wondering what my next car is, it will be a bmw e36 318is coupe :evil:... tis gonna be nice!
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It probably isn't a blown gasket, but just condensation build up in the head due to the cold weather and the fact the car isnt being used often enough. It will take a good long run down the motorway at high revs to get all the mayo out!
As for the carb the one on the 1.3 engine is the 2e3 not 2e2, so that ?100 one on ebay is no good to you. Make sure the inlet manifold preheater is getting 12v when the engine is cold and switches off when the coolant is up to temperature. Check the coolant hoses going in and out of the inlet get good & hot. Then check the autochoke unit gets 12v when cold and has good coolant flow.
Last of all check the warm air feed, there should be a pipe on the air filter housing connected to a shroud fitted to the exhaust manifold. Also check the flap is opening as it should while the engine is running, if not make sure the vacuum lines to it are getting vacuum.
As for the petrol smell this could be due to the rubber seal running along the top of the scuttle tray, check its in good nick with no gaps. If its missing or damaged this will cause engine smells to be drawn into the fresh air intake.
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It probably isn't a blown gasket, but just condensation build up in the head due to the cold weather and the fact the car isnt being used often enough.? It will take a good long run down the motorway at high revs to get all the mayo out!?
Thats what i was thinking rubjonny :wink: hense why i asked the question on page 1. i would give it a flush and put some new oil in with a new filter.
Whats the point on spending all this money on a car that you dont want?? you will prob spend more on the car sorting bits out than what you would make by sellin it.
Major bits i would do like head gasket (if it needs doin) I would check the condition of the other parts you are on about changin and if they are serviceable then leave them. no point in wastin money
tucker
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Great minds eh? :)
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Hey, not been on this site for long so excuse me if you done what i advise, I had a 1.8 Scirroco a few years ago thought the carb was icing, it was the fuel pump not pumping proper, new gasket/diaphram presto sorted even had a autotune bloke out and tested everything to no avail, he said do the carb kit (fiddly things) didn't sort it took a presure read from fuel pump was rather low!!! Your mayonaise as you put it can come from the condensation in the engine, if the breather is clogged up that can be all it is, theres a few on the 1.3 if I recall right the haynes guide will let you see hopefully? See if this helps mate if not good luck. :cry: