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Title: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 28 January 2011, 20:16
Been interested in getting some backlit dials from this company for a while.

http://moman.pl/en/index.php?a=opis&k=26&id=400 (http://moman.pl/en/index.php?a=opis&k=26&id=400)

They make some nice backlit dial in different styles and colours but not in MPH.

Some examples.

Design 3

(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_21.jpg)
(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_18.jpg)

Design 2
(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_13.jpg)
(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_09.jpg)

Design 1

(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_05.jpg)
(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_01.jpg)

There are 6 different designs to choose from but they will need 15 people to be able to start making the dials in MPH

Please note: To get the LCD display to be a different colour you will either need a coloured filter change or if you have later clocks, it will mean changing the LED's (Means a complete strip down and resoldering of the LEDs on the circuit board).
They will also add km/h onto the dial for legality.

They said that they need one person to organise the deal and people can choose dials in 3 designs only and 4 colours as shown below.

(http://moman.pl/golf4/en_kolory.jpg)

The 3 most common will be the best to go with but they'll need to have high quality pictures sent and  info on speedo and rev ranges.

So I will need some high quality picture of the clock in daylight to ensure a perfect match.

The price will include an inverter and will work out around £65 posted to the door. They also make a heater panel that lights those up properly so you can do without the leds. That would work out £10 extra. To get the heater panel to light red you will need to paint the back of the panel with red Flouro paint £8.

Heater Panel

(http://moman.pl/Golf3/nawiew04.jpg)

(http://moman.pl/Golf3/nawiew02.jpg)


Flourescent paint The flouro paint is also used for the needles or you could try and go mk4 style.

(http://moman.pl/Farba/f09.jpg)

(http://moman.pl/Farba/f08.jpg)

Look at the site see what you think. There's no discount on prices shown in euros because it is a special order, but you save on postage and they'll only post to one address.


Add your name to the list as follows. Name, Engine type, Design, colour, Rev range, Speedo range, Heater panel(Y/N), Flouro paint(Y/N colour)

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y (red)
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y (Blue), N
5. Len - 16v Design 1, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
6. Bellend - 1.6 Design 2, blue, 0-140mph, Y, Y (RED)
7. Neil180 - 8v, Design 2, White, 7k 0-140mph,Y, Y (blue)
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Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: matt_1982 on 28 January 2011, 21:10
so do these replace my clocks?or just convert them??
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: tshirt2k on 28 January 2011, 22:25
so do these replace my clocks?or just convert them??

They convert you existing dial using new faces

(http://moman.pl/Golf3/golf3_16.jpg)
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: dom on 28 January 2011, 22:56
They look good, but £65 is a bit steep for dials imo :undecided:

Do you know how much work is involved in fitting them?
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 28 January 2011, 23:43
I really like this actually but i wouldn't fit ones with KM/H instead of MPH which obviously means they'll need a fair bit of interrest to be made and like mentioned, they're not particularly budget friendly are they. Still cool though.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: tshirt2k on 29 January 2011, 08:35
If you read the post it says they will make them in mph. That's the point of the GB. You can't get these anywhere otherwise. The clocks need to come apart. Needles off. New dials fitted and wired in.

It all depends on what you consider worth paying for they're exclusive. As no One else will have them in there car. Plus if you've spent ££££ on engine conversions, wheels etc. It's not that expensive considering only 15 people will initially have them in the country.  :wink:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: jiminbmth on 29 January 2011, 09:30
im interested  :smug:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 29 January 2011, 22:57
what car do you have?
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: harlemex on 30 January 2011, 15:47
just curious as to the actual wiring. Easy or awkward soldering?
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: dom on 30 January 2011, 17:13
just curious as to the actual wiring. Easy or awkward soldering?

+1 I could see it quite easily being a sod of a job.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 30 January 2011, 18:17
It will just be connected to the inverter by plugs. No soldering unless you want to change the colour of the LCD displays. Easy for me, may not be for others.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: Deano2711 on 30 January 2011, 20:10
If you read the post it says they will make them in mph. That's the point of the GB. You can't get these anywhere otherwise. The clocks need to come apart. Needles off. New dials fitted and wired in.

It all depends on what you consider worth paying for they're exclusive. As no One else will have them in there car. Plus if you've spent ££££ on engine conversions, wheels etc. It's not that expensive considering only 15 people will initially have them in the country.   :wink:

Quite a statement to make....what makes you think no one outside of this forum has bought this. I would say there are plenty of people in the UK running these.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Jimp on 30 January 2011, 21:33
Yeah there are quite a few people running these already, but either way they are sweet bit of kit  :cool:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Post by: tshirt2k on 30 January 2011, 22:24
If you read the post it says they will make them in mph. That's the point of the GB. You can't get these anywhere otherwise. The clocks need to come apart. Needles off. New dials fitted and wired in.

It all depends on what you consider worth paying for they're exclusive. As no One else will have them in there car. Plus if you've spent ££££ on engine conversions, wheels etc. It's not that expensive considering only 15 people will initially have them in the country.   :wink:

Quite a statement to make....what makes you think no one outside of this forum has bought this. I would say there are plenty of people in the UK running these.

Because if people were running these. Why would they need 15 people to make them in MPH. They may have a type of backlit dial, maybe s3 or DDI but they are either not available anymore, alot more expensive or only available for certain clocks.

These ones from this company haven't been made in MPH. They need pictures of the clocks to be able to make them. IF they had already done them they would be available on the website.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: AndyMk3 on 30 January 2011, 23:19
I'm in
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 08:29
People would need to decide if they also wanted a heater panel and flourecent paint etc..

I have started a list here. And MAY do this if it can go smoothly. (A few people can vouch that the last group buy on other "common" forums went smoothly enough).

Probably have to sort designs into 3 most common. And people will need to supply a daylight picture of each clock to send.

I've worked it out and including P&P the cost should come to around £65heater panel £10 and Flourescent paint (to paint needles )£8 extra.

Add names to list including Car, Design, Backlight colour, Rev limit/range, Speed range - Heater panel (Y/N), Flourescent paint(Y/N.Colour).

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: boola on 31 January 2011, 09:29
1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 8k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 8k, 0-160mph, n, n
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Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 09:33
16v owners. Sent company a picture of my clocks and they call the rev range 7.5k And its apparently "Rare" to them.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: spear on 31 January 2011, 10:05
is there an option just to buy the heater dials as I quite like my dials and as far as i know I'm the only person in the world that is only using UV leds to light them  :cool:

(http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy180/spear765/car/10March2010264.jpg)

PS. they look 15 times better in the flesh
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 11:47
No need to go in for the group buy only for the heater panel. You can buy direct from the website. Should work out ~£25 posted. I bought one ages ago from there.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: dom on 31 January 2011, 13:27
is there an option just to buy the heater dials as I quite like my dials and as far as i know I'm the only person in the world that is only using UV leds to light them  :cool:

PS. they look 15 times better in the flesh

Pretty sure Kells put UV led's in his a couple of years ago!
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: spear on 31 January 2011, 13:47

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Pretty sure Kells put UV led's in his a couple of years ago!
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ah, he did but notice I said ONLY UV leds, I believe Kells and others (maybe) used blue leds with uv leds. my car is therefore a one off, unique example.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 31 January 2011, 16:59
Cant you just buy these?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK3-160MPH-TDI-PLASMA-GLOW-WHITE-DIAL-KIT-/290508709857?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a3ab1fe1
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: harlemex on 31 January 2011, 19:35
People would need to decide if they also wanted a heater panel and flourecent paint etc..

I've worked it out and including P&P the cost should come to around £65heater panel £10 and Flourescent paint (to paint needles )£7 extra.

Add names to list including Car, Design, Backlight colour, Rev limit/range, Speed range - Heater panel (Y/N), Flourescent paint(Y/N.Colour).

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N


Here you mention florescent paint for the needles, but the needles look backlit in the pic??
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 20:02
They are Mk4 needles. But if keeping mk3 needles you paint them.

People keep trying to find alternatives. That's already been done. Those aren't as nice either. Especially if you are looking for something similar to OEM.

The point is they are different and not available to everyone via eBay etc. More choice also.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: harlemex on 31 January 2011, 20:36
so just to clarify, to get them lookin like the pic, you will need mk4 needles? And will they light up properly without any extra modding? Cheers.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: dom on 31 January 2011, 21:30
so just to clarify, to get them lookin like the pic, you will need mk4 needles? And will they light up properly without any extra modding? Cheers.

This is getting more and more complicated, in the words of a certain dragon......i'm out!
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 21:57
so just to clarify, to get them lookin like the pic, you will need mk4 needles? And will they light up properly without any extra modding? Cheers.

To fit mk4 needles It will need need modding to get them to glow. But thats not necessary. Mk3 needles will work but obviously not look as good.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 21:58
so just to clarify, to get them lookin like the pic, you will need mk4 needles? And will they light up properly without any extra modding? Cheers.

This is getting more and more complicated, in the words of a certain dragon......i'm out!

Were you in?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: damien010685 on 31 January 2011, 22:07
Id def be up for this... are they easy to install?
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: dom on 31 January 2011, 22:12
so just to clarify, to get them lookin like the pic, you will need mk4 needles? And will they light up properly without any extra modding? Cheers.

This is getting more and more complicated, in the words of a certain dragon......i'm out!

Were you in?  :rolleyes:

I was definitely considering it! I may invest in some heater controls from their website anyway, so thanks for the link :afro:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: _redders_ on 31 January 2011, 22:28
you lot are all f**king idiots, they are a plasma back lit dial set, the only other ones like this available are DDI dials, that come in just over £110, they replace your origional dials, you take the needles off, put these on and put your needles back on, wire them into any of the illumination wires on one of your switches, (normaly the grey/green, or grey/blue wire...... pos and brown..... earth) if you want glowing needles you need mk4 needles, they are gonna be made in MPH, hence why he's asking for pictures of everyones dials... they will be made in the 3 most popular designs, stop been numptys, and clogging this thread spouting rubbish about how complicated stuff is, and why your not intrested, if you are, put your name on the list...
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: damien010685 on 31 January 2011, 22:38
you lot are all f**king idiots, they are a plasma back lit dial set, the only other ones like this available are DDI dials, that come in just over £110, they replace your origional dials, you take the needles off, put these on and put your needles back on, wire them into any of the illumination wires on one of your switches, (normaly the grey/green, or grey/blue wire...... pos and brown..... earth) if you want glowing needles you need mk4 needles, they are gonna be made in MPH, hence why he's asking for pictures of everyones dials... they will be made in the 3 most popular designs, stop been numptys, and clogging this thread spouting rubbish about how complicated stuff is, and why your not intrested, if you are, put your name on the list...

Mate its called Car+Drive+Tesco+Box Of Tampons= Better Day!!
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: dom on 31 January 2011, 22:44
you lot are all f**king idiots, they are a plasma back lit dial set, the only other ones like this available are DDI dials, that come in just over £110, they replace your origional dials, you take the needles off, put these on and put your needles back on, wire them into any of the illumination wires on one of your switches, (normaly the grey/green, or grey/blue wire...... pos and brown..... earth) if you want glowing needles you need mk4 needles, they are gonna be made in MPH, hence why he's asking for pictures of everyones dials... they will be made in the 3 most popular designs, stop been numptys, and clogging this thread spouting rubbish about how complicated stuff is, and why your not intrested, if you are, put your name on the list...

Its that bit that needs clarification, what exactly does 'wiring them in' entail? Although i'm sure that if the OP can confirm if clear instructions are provided with the kit then all will be ok.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 22:48
you lot are all f**king idiots, they are a plasma back lit dial set, the only other ones like this available are DDI dials, that come in just over £110, they replace your origional dials, you take the needles off, put these on and put your needles back on, wire them into any of the illumination wires on one of your switches, (normaly the grey/green, or grey/blue wire...... pos and brown..... earth) if you want glowing needles you need mk4 needles, they are gonna be made in MPH, hence why he's asking for pictures of everyones dials... they will be made in the 3 most popular designs, stop been numptys, and clogging this thread spouting rubbish about how complicated stuff is, and why your not intrested, if you are, put your name on the list...

Couldn't have said it better myself mate.  :wink: maybe everything has to be almost free/cheap and easy to be worth doing. Maybe a led gearknob group buy would be more appealing.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 22:54
you lot are all f**king idiots, they are a plasma back lit dial set, the only other ones like this available are DDI dials, that come in just over £110, they replace your origional dials, you take the needles off, put these on and put your needles back on, wire them into any of the illumination wires on one of your switches, (normaly the grey/green, or grey/blue wire...... pos and brown..... earth) if you want glowing needles you need mk4 needles, they are gonna be made in MPH, hence why he's asking for pictures of everyones dials... they will be made in the 3 most popular designs, stop been numptys, and clogging this thread spouting rubbish about how complicated stuff is, and why your not intrested, if you are, put your name on the list...


Its that bit that needs clarification, what exactly does 'wiring them in' entail? Although i'm sure that if the OP can confirm if clear instructions are provided with the kit then all will be ok.


Not sure it will have instruction. There's plenty of info Clocks around the WWW. It takes a bit of common sense to fit them but not impossible.

It will need an earth and and a positive feed from the lighting circuit to get  them working. If that's too difficult or you don't feel comfortable with electrics then they may not be for you.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2011, 22:55
you lot are all f**king idiots, they are a plasma back lit dial set, the only other ones like this available are DDI dials, that come in just over £110, they replace your origional dials, you take the needles off, put these on and put your needles back on, wire them into any of the illumination wires on one of your switches, (normaly the grey/green, or grey/blue wire...... pos and brown..... earth) if you want glowing needles you need mk4 needles, they are gonna be made in MPH, hence why he's asking for pictures of everyones dials... they will be made in the 3 most popular designs, stop been numptys, and clogging this thread spouting rubbish about how complicated stuff is, and why your not intrested, if you are, put your name on the list...

Its that bit that needs clarification, what exactly does 'wiring them in' entail? Although i'm sure that if the OP can confirm if clear instructions are provided with the kit then all will be ok.

So stop being such an abusive c u n t :lipsrsealed:

You could scotch block them onto any wire.

Personally I'd snip a wire, apply some heatshrink, solder then warm up the heatshrink.

Or you could solder it in the clocks.

This is PROPER simple wiring people, if you can light up a bulb you can do this.

+12v and earth.

Two wires.  :smiley:

I really want to put my name down but I'm always skint. When will this be going through?

Also, I have a 1.6, I'm sure my dials aren't ALL that common, does that matter?
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2011, 22:57
(http://stenbakk.no/typer/fotlys/5.jpg)

That's pretty much all the wiring you'd need to do.

That's off a Honda, but think of that as your heated rear screen switch or even easier, the illuminated ciggerette lighter.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 22:58
As the thread is getting clogged I'll add the list again

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2011, 23:00
Can I just quickly ask when it's going to be sorted and also, does it matter that my dials probably aren't that common or not? :smiley:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 January 2011, 23:09
IF the list gets filled it will go ahead. At this rate, the thread will be 10 pages long with no one on the list.

Doesn't matter what clocks you have. As long as they are mk3. List the spec according to the list, look at the website a and choose a design and colour. The 3 most common designs will be chosen. I would also need a picture at least 900x600 pixels of your clocks in daylight so they can get an accurate copy of the scales.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: dom on 31 January 2011, 23:11
Cheers for clarifying that that Bellend/tshirt2k. I'm more than capable of doing that, I just needed to know that it really was that simple :afro:

I'd love a set of these but don't have the funds right now. I'll keep an eye on this thread and depending on the time i'll hopefully be able to stick my name down towards the end  :smiley:

Also apologies for all the thread cluttering :embarassed:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: N900 MJT on 01 February 2011, 14:16
Isn't the idea of a group buy is that it gets cheaper the higher number of people want it?
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: harlemex on 01 February 2011, 14:30
I was interested, but being called f**king idiots and told how easy peasey it is to fit by people that cant explain sh!t properly has put me right off. Im out.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 14:31
I'm in, but only if they do make them in mph.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 01 February 2011, 14:32
Why don't you DIY.  Granted it's a tad more expensive, but they come in MPH.

http://www.metal-monkey.co.uk/acatalog/Volkswagon.html

Then either:

1. use LED to backlight, or.
2. use EL foil to backlight - proper job.

http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/~flN0YXRlPTUzNTQ5NTA1====?~template=PCAT_AREA_S_BROWSE&glb_user_js=Y&shop=UK&zhmmh_lfo=&zhmmh_area_kz=&product_show_id=184043&gvlon=&p_init_ipc=X&p_page_to_display=fromoutside&~cookies=1&cookie_n[1]=uk_insert&cookie_v[1]=8V&cookie_d[1]=&cookie_p[1]=%2f&cookie_e[1]=Sat%2c+05-Mar-2011+14%3a37%3a57+GMT&scrwidth=1024


3. Fit Mk4 or Porche needles with the tiny red led's and Bobs your uncle.

Jonathan.
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 01 February 2011, 15:07
http://www.wunschtacho.de/fileadmin/wunschtacho/download/einbau/allgemein_en/Manual%20LightFoil%20EL%20Foil.pdf
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 01 February 2011, 15:15
Light up needles look like a matching accessory that go with under car neons!... :sick:
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 15:22
Light up needles look like a matching accessory that go with under car neons!... :sick:

I disagree, most modern cars have needles that light up
Title: Re: Backlit dials. Anyone interested in a GROUP BUY?
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 16:00
my mate has a 6N polo and wants a set, if he's included on the list, does he count??  I only ask cos, obviously, his is a different car
Title: Re: ?
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 16:03
Was only for mk3's mate. But don't think i can be doing it on here. Too childish.

People cant even add thier name to a list. OR read the 1st post with all the info.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 16:04
well let us know if you're doing it at all cos i'm definately in
Title: Re: ?
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 01 February 2011, 16:07
It's a shame this thread has ended up like this, was for the benefit of forum members.

The dials looked quite cool as well.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 16:11
Lets see how many others get on the band wagon? If you can't afford them. Just say!  :grin:

No need to hide behind how difficult it might be or clever internet slogans.

Thats how you show you age or your insecurity. Just a tip. :smug:

Title: Re: ?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 01 February 2011, 16:15
Apologies if this has already been covered, but what's the crack with the kmh - mph thing?

I think (and I could be wrong) but are EU clocks not meant to be both mph/kmh rated? Could you check this with the supplier? Or provide a link to the question if it's been answered by them.

To be honest, they look like nice bits of kit, and would add a nice touch to most cars. £65 isn't a great deal of money in the grand scale of things.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY. Not Likely
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 16:24
Why does no one read the 1st page? :shocked: The point of the group buy was to make them in mph. They only make them in Kph. They would do a limited amount for initially 15 sets in mph.

I could have asked for another dial wih kph but not worth it now. Way too much hassle. 6 pages and only 2 names added to the list i put up?

I did it so i could get some myself. Another forum may be better.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY. Not Likely
Post by: harlemex on 01 February 2011, 16:25
you wont find a better forum than this one.  :kiss:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY. Not Likely
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 01 February 2011, 16:27
I'm just clearing up this thread of the abuse and unnecessary comments, please stay on topic with this people. If you don't want a set then please don't post. :afro:

Also to tshirt2k, the way you are talking to people has made apparent that you are getting their backs up. Tone your attitude down and you'll have a better chance at getting this sorted.

People (like myself) like to know as much as we can about something that we aren't sure about. If you want this group buy to happen then be as helpful as you can rather than as hostile as you can. :afro:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY. Not Likely
Post by: Len on 01 February 2011, 16:32
What page is the list on?

If its the blue I'll have a set.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY. Not Likely
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 01 February 2011, 16:37
Why does no one read the 1st page? :shocked: The point of the group buy was to make them in mph. They only make them in Kph. They would do a limited amount for initially 15 sets in mph.

I read the first page. Then posted with a relevant question. Perhaps you should read it properly before jumping in accusing people of not reading the first page.

My question still stands. Is it not a legal requirement for UK cars to have both MPH AND KPH. My next question was then, could you ask the suppliers about this as it is you that has (or rather tried) to organise this and therefore you are the suppliers contact.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 16:38
If it's not too late...

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY. Not Likely
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 18:32
Is it not a legal requirement for UK cars to have both MPH AND KPH. My next question was then, could you ask the suppliers about this as it is you that has (or rather tried) to organise this and therefore you are the suppliers contact.

Good point. I have looked it up and apparently it is for imported cars. Although it's not usually checked on MOT.

I have asked the question and I'm awaiting an answer.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 19:26
Updated

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 19:28
Haha, yeah, I meant design 2...
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 19:42
Updated

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 01 February 2011, 20:07
Here you go Slick:  :wink:

Motor Vehicles (Con & Use) Regs, 1986 Reg 35

Motor Vehicle shall be fitted with a speedometer which, if the vehicle was first used on or after 1.4.1984, shall be capable of indicating speed in BOTH miles per hour and kilometers per hour, either simultaneously or, by the operation of a switch seperately.

Except, vehicles max speed not exceeding 25 mph, motor cycle n e 100 cc, invalid carriage, fitted with tacho, etc, etc.

END.

Jonathan.


Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2011, 20:21
Here you go Slick:  :wink:

Motor Vehicles (Con & Use) Regs, 1986 Reg 35

Motor Vehicle shall be fitted with a speedometer which, if the vehicle was first used on or after 1.4.1984, shall be capable of indicating speed in BOTH miles per hour and kilometers per hour, either simultaneously or, by the operation of a switch seperately.

Except, vehicles max speed not exceeding 25 mph, motor cycle n e 100 cc, invalid carriage, fitted with tacho, etc, etc.

END.

Jonathan.




I guessed that was the case, spot on as always Jonathan
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 20:30
That's why the question was asked to the company.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: _redders_ on 01 February 2011, 20:49
wiring these in...


basically, the dials are powered by an inverter... the inverter is powered by any 12v supply, obviously, you only want the inverter to be "on" when the lights are on...

SO...

heres where you wire the pos and neg from the inverter... any switch in your car that lights up when you turn the lights on will have a grey/green wire, or a grey/blue wire... every one, the headlight switch, window, mirror, heater controls etc etc, this is the pos, and all these will have a brown wire... the earth, you can splice the pos and neg into any of these, and it will work perfect, OR you can find a pos and neg on the circuit borad and solder the pos and neg from the inverter to the board, so the clock can be removed if needs be as one whole unit. EASY :)

sorry if i offended anyone, but 4 pages of people either saying they cant afford these or there not worth the money is pointless, these dont get made in MPH, this i why he has sorted a group buy, there are no other dials like this out there, with this kind of selection available, the only other plasma dials like this available are DDI dials, and they come in at about £110...

on the subject of showing both KPH and MPH, well, its up to you really isnt it, but i can name a butt load of companys who offer dials throught the uk with only MPH readings... Premier dials, DDi, Lockwood, etc etc, if you MOT'er moans, then take it else where, as if hes gonna fail you for that, then your gonna fail where ever!
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 20:57
as far as the legality goes, I've got cars through MOT's that have only shown mph with no issues.  I also spoke to a good friend who is a traffic Officer and he said that as far as he's aware they can't do anything about it even if it was illegal as there are no powers from their point of view. 

There is no law against it, only rules apparently.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: damien010685 on 01 February 2011, 20:59
Lol redders its ok Time of the month happens!! Im only kidding dude i get what ya meant! remmeber mk3 owners are tight basterds lol!!
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: garfayliu on 01 February 2011, 21:54
Count me in, been wanting to do mine properly for a while now.

(http://garfay.robertliu.com/cars/aDsc_2019.jpg)

Expecting to pay £75 for my combo below.

Updated

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, N
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 01 February 2011, 22:20
Correct as long as they don't change the prices according to exchange rates.

Can you also choose colour of heater panel. I assume it's blue also?

If and when list fills up. I will pm payment details.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 01 February 2011, 22:45
I actually ordered a heater dial panel from these guys a little while back and am awaiting delivery.  I wish I'd known about this thread before hand!

I'll get pics and such when it arrives
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2011, 23:46
as far as the legality goes, I've got cars through MOT's that have only shown mph with no issues.  I also spoke to a good friend who is a traffic Officer and he said that as far as he's aware they can't do anything about it even if it was illegal as there are no powers from their point of view. 

There is no law against it, only rules apparently.

Wrong  :smiley: if the Motor Vehicles (Con & Use) Regs, 1986 say you need both then it is illegal, simples
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 02 February 2011, 00:19
as far as the legality goes, I've got cars through MOT's that have only shown mph with no issues.  I also spoke to a good friend who is a traffic Officer and he said that as far as he's aware they can't do anything about it even if it was illegal as there are no powers from their point of view. 

There is no law against it, only rules apparently.

Wrong  :smiley: if the Motor Vehicles (Con & Use) Regs, 1986 say you need both then it is illegal, simples

A law and a regulation are two seperate things.  What my friend said is that they cannot prosecute the driver of a car that only has mph, not both.  All they can do is issue a VDRS which means you have to get it stamped by an MOT garage to say it's all in order, they can then prosecute you if you fail to do this.  As I know of MOT places that have passed cars with only mph in the past it would be fine.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Len on 02 February 2011, 08:47
1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, N
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
5. Len - 16v Design 1, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 02 February 2011, 09:28
I've changed my mind, I would like some flouro paint too

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
5. Len - 16v Design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 02 February 2011, 10:14
I've changed my mind, I would like some flouro paint too

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
5. Len - 16v Design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
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You need to state paint colour also.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 02 February 2011, 11:03
Got reply from them. Looks like they will put a small km/h on the dials.

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We can either make it with small subsidiary km/h marks or without it.
Anyway, we are not going to start the project unless you will collect these people, photos and make advance payment.
 
 
 
Greetings,
MOMAN s.c.

Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: GrandMstRamRod on 02 February 2011, 11:19
im sure there is a website that does them bit closer to home for round the 65 pound mark in mph i will see if i can find it!
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Len on 02 February 2011, 11:30
Got reply from them. Looks like they will put a small km/h on the dials.

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We can either make it with small subsidiary km/h marks or without it.
Anyway, we are not going to start the project unless you will collect these people, photos and make advance payment.
 
 
 
Greetings,
MOMAN s.c.



I would prefer MPH and smal kph so is that going to be Design 4?
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 02 February 2011, 12:14
1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y (red)
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
5. Len - 16v Design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 02 February 2011, 12:28
Will be the same design but it may be best to get these all done with a small km/h anyway.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Len on 02 February 2011, 12:56
Ummmmm can ya please confirm which exactly is Design 3?  :embarassed:

I just looked back through this thread and I'm now confused!
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 02 February 2011, 12:59
Ummmmm can ya please confirm which exactly is Design 3?  :embarassed:

I just looked back through this thread and I'm now confused!

on the first post, click on the link and it will show pics of all the different designs.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Len on 02 February 2011, 13:02
D'oh!

Thanks mate.

Have to change mine to Design 1 then!
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: harlemex on 02 February 2011, 13:19
will the dash brightness dial still work after these are fitted?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 02 February 2011, 13:20
I imagine that would depend on where you wired the backlighting....
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: tshirt2k on 02 February 2011, 14:09
D'oh!

Thanks mate.

Have to change mine to Design 1 then!


Can you change your choice and add the updated list in another post. To keep it up to date.

Yes. Brightness does change on the dimmer. The inverter output still varies with the input voltage.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 02 February 2011, 14:20
Just a tip for you tshirt2k, update your initial post when someone confirms their order. It'll mean people can copy and paste from there and everyone can see exactly where you are at. No one gets lost in the process then and keeps you on top of your game. :afro:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 02 February 2011, 16:25
1st post updated.:afro:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: garfayliu on 02 February 2011, 21:49
Hi, I think you may have made an error with your copy paste, I didn't want the paint :laugh: Thought I might as well amend Lens design choice to 1 whilst I'm at it.

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y (red)
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y (blue), N
5. Len - 16v, Design 1, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y (?), N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 02 February 2011, 21:54
Yep amended. Paint was meant to be jimmy filth's
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 04 February 2011, 17:28
Any more takers?
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 05 February 2011, 12:48
My heater dial illumination turned up today
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 16 February 2011, 10:24
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: Len on 16 February 2011, 16:15
Hi, I think you may have made an error with your copy paste, I didn't want the paint :laugh: Thought I might as well amend Lens design choice to 1 whilst I'm at it.

1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y (red)
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y (blue), N
5. Len - 16v, Design 1, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y (?), N
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: Bellend on 16 February 2011, 17:44
Design 2, 1.6 Dials (will get pic), blue, 7K (although there is no 7 digit), 0-140MPH, Y, Y (RED)

Price? Then I'll stick my name down.  :cool:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 16 February 2011, 17:50
Design 2, 1.6 Dials (will get pic), blue, 7K (although there is no 7 digit), 0-140MPH, Y, Y (RED)

Price? Then I'll stick my name down.  :cool:

Think it's in the first post mate, around £65 for the speedo, then £10 for the heater dials.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 16 February 2011, 19:47
List updated.  :wink:

Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: Len on 18 February 2011, 15:03
Not looking good to get 15 though mate!

Shame!
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 18 February 2011, 21:11
I know.  :shocked: And i can see why the company won't make them in mph unless there is a suffiecient amount to warrant it.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: neil1780 on 18 February 2011, 22:16
1.Tshirt2k - 16V, Design 3, white, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
2. Boola -16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, N, N
3. Jimmy Filth 16v, design 2, blue, 7.5K, 0-160mph, N, Y (red)
4. garfayliu - 16v, design 3, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y (Blue), N
5. Len - 16v Design 1, blue, 7.5k, 0-160mph, Y, N
6. Bellend - 1.6 Design 2, blue, 0-140mph, Y, Y (RED)
7. Neil180 - 8v, Design 2, White, 7k 0-140mph,Y, Y (blue)
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Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: tshirt2k on 18 February 2011, 23:41
1st page updated.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: neil1780 on 27 February 2011, 22:12
Come on guys I want these  :wink:
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: garfayliu on 31 March 2011, 20:28
Bump... there must be more people interested?

I'm on the verge of selling the mk3, so might not need to dials, but if this group buy gets to the 15 people soon, I'll go through with the buy.
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: dansmk3 on 15 August 2011, 21:13
shame they dont do MPH versions
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: Misky on 16 August 2011, 13:02
shame they dont do MPH versions

wow! have you seriously just wrote that?
How about you re-read the 10 pages?
Title: Re: Backlit dials GROUP BUY - Please read first post for info.
Post by: dansmk3 on 16 August 2011, 14:52
shame they dont do MPH versions

wow! have you seriously just wrote that?
How about you re-read the 10 pages?

how about i do! ill admit i did jump feet first into this one as just wanted to see, but i was purely commenting on the factt hat the website does not specify mph