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Title: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Martz on 22 January 2011, 20:35
Right Guys n Gals

Our childminder was in Tescos Sunbury (nr Heathrow) and had our little fella with her. The car had child seats in so what happened was heartless. She was in for 15-20 mins and canme back to the car and when it started it sounded terrible, she stopped at a garage close by and when up on the ramps it was a shock to her to say the least. The cat was missing and was butchered off. Police notified etc etc. Due to the cost of repair the vehicle 'maybe' a write off. The exaust fumes were also noticable inside the vehicle and could have caused serious problems for everyone inside including my little boy.

Be aware everyone as someone could get seriously hurt from this. Little feckers should be shot!

Please leave this post on here so that it can be viewed as it is important that everyone is aware that this is happening.
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Wayne on 22 January 2011, 21:15
What ever next  :shocked: guess it is all to do with the value of scrap
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Tazzy on 22 January 2011, 21:29
this has been talked about for a while now, not good at all, but pointless as well, but hey ho, in the time, aggro and money it takes to cut off a cat box, these morons might as well just go get a proper job!
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Snoopy on 22 January 2011, 22:07
this has been talked about for a while now, not good at all, but pointless as well, but hey ho, in the time, aggro and money it takes to cut off a cat box, these morons might as well just go get a proper job!
Depends on the cat some are worth good money when scrapped don't know many jobs that would pay similar per hour unless you go into banking. :grin:
Im sorry to hear about this but if she could not hear the racket due to missing cat and have the sence to not drive it i would be worried about her child care ability
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Martz on 22 January 2011, 22:23
Hence why she got to the garage across the road....................
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Diamond Hell on 22 January 2011, 22:55
If she was in Tescos, surely they have CCTV of the car park?

What's the point in stickying this?

So if we drive off and suddenly find our cat's missing we can go 'oh so someone's nicked it while I was shopping, like in Martz thread'. 

I don't see the point in stickying the post?  It sucks that this has happened, but get a claim in is all you/she can do. 

What possible evasive action can we take to avoid this sort of weird theft?  What should we do if we see the theft in progress?  Go and talk to these nutters?  If you live near Heathrow it probably explains why your insurance premiums are so high. :grin:

It'd be like stickying a thread about making sure you put your handbrake on, because my car rolled off down a hill when I didn't put mine on well enough.... although let's face it - at least it's possible to do something about that problem!
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Martz on 23 January 2011, 06:50
Tescos have no CCTV DH.

I pay very little for my insurance my friend.........  :kiss:

I posted this to make people aware of this, yep, your right not much can be done about it but if you saw someone doing this would you confrontthem? I would as I believe in right and wrong and I would not be wrong for one of these low life to get a good kick in (although Pikeys normally find you and kill you!).

Cheers
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 23 January 2011, 07:37
pikies are the scum of the earth mate theyre not goiong to care that your cars got child seats init, theyre just concerned where the next 50 quids coming from a couple of pikies stole 3 or 4 cats off the cars on the forecort at work last year.
they must be worth a fair bit now a pikey come round last week and offered £120 per cat, dont what they sell for if thats how much they want to buy them for
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: snifferdog on 23 January 2011, 07:38
Yeah, my workplace got done over last year, they got away with about 6  :shocked: Luckily mine wasnt one of them. :laugh:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 January 2011, 08:19
if you saw someone doing this would you confrontthem? I would as I believe in right and wrong and I would not be wrong for one of these low life to get a good kick in (although Pikeys normally find you and kill you!).

No I wouldn't, I'd keep a bloody low profile and call the police - I've never been stabbed and have no interest in experiencing such an activity.

I believe in right and wrong, but I believe more in being around to watch my kids grow up and I'm not going to forfeit that for a catalytic converter!
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Martz on 23 January 2011, 08:47
Police do feck all. Fair point not wanting to get a kicking. The problem that i have with all this is why do we all pay our taxes, pay our premiums, teach our children to respect one another and these low life simply feel they have a right to steel from the ordinary Jo in the street. Nothing normally happens to them because we all frightened to deal with it head on (and rightly so as you mentioned). And there appears to be nothing you can do to prevent the theft?
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 23 January 2011, 08:54
Police do feck all. Fair point not wanting to get a kicking. The problem that ibhave with all thus is why do we all pay our taxes, pay our premiums, teach our children to respect one another and these low life simply feel they have a right to steel from the ordinary Jo in the street. Nothing normally happens to them because we all frightened to deal with it head on (and rightly so as you mentioned). And there appears to be nothing you can do to prevent the theft?

100% agree with you nothing ever happens its the sort of thing people like us will spend hours and hours down the pub argueing how it's wrong and they shouldn't get away with it but the outcome is always the same what can we do? I reckon a couple of grenades in each site is q good idea but don't think the police or government would agree with me. Unfortunately :angry:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: moutains on 23 January 2011, 09:19
cant remember where i saw it but there is an anti theft kit you can buy to stop your cat being nicked
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Phil1980 on 23 January 2011, 09:29
cant remember where i saw it but there is an anti theft kit you can buy to stop your cat being nicked


Yes they sell them in sports shops they're called cricket bats. :smiley:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: snifferdog on 23 January 2011, 09:41
cant remember where i saw it but there is an anti theft kit you can buy to stop your cat being nicked


Yes they sell them in sports shops they're called cricket bats. :smiley:


 :grin: :grin:



Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Toby on 23 January 2011, 09:46
sorry to hear that! :(

But if they made decats legal then there wouldn't be such theft!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: cняis on 23 January 2011, 10:17

What possible evasive action can we take to avoid this sort of weird theft? 

sorry to hear that! :(

But if they made decats legal then there wouldn't be such theft!!  :evil:

there ya go, dont run a cat, it wont get stolen then  :grin:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: leigh_harty on 23 January 2011, 10:21
sorry to hear that! :(

But if they made decats legal then there wouldn't be such theft!!  :evil:

there ya go, dont run a cat, it wont get stolen then  :grin:
Thats just stupid... we'd all end up having sun and summers that last longer than a week! God forbid if that happens  :grin:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: robiwill on 23 January 2011, 11:33
most vw cats are ceramic so worthless to the pikey scum.  Its vauxhalls peugeots and fords and Rovers they target mostly. we have had about 30 nicked over the last 18 months worse night they got 8 from us and 9 from the garage next door.   they use hydrulic citting gear nicked from the local fire statio we have CCTV and the police have copies of the events happening took em about 40 minutes all wearing hoodies and what have the polic done as usuall feck all. We now park car inside based on whats the cat like if its a genuine original one insde the car goes if its had a replacemetn or its a vag we leave it outside.

However first time I have heard of it i a public car park the feckers are getting brave. If it carrys on maybe the police will actually do something about it
lol
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 23 January 2011, 13:11
most vw cats are ceramic so worthless to the pikey scum. 


No so.  All Catalytic converters are loaded with small amounts of precious metals including platinum, palladium and rhodium.

You'll find approximately 3 to 7 grams of platinum in one.

That is why they are stolen.

Jonathan.


Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: tweed on 23 January 2011, 13:49
butchered off?? you ever tried removing one? it is a lot easier to undo the exhaust clamps and remove it. I think it was that rusty it fell off and she made up an excuse because as you say the fumes are dangerous for your child's health.

easy way to stop this if it really was stolen, is to lower the car so you can't even get a jack underneath it
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Sam on 23 January 2011, 13:54
Or buy a pre 90 car?
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Mikester on 23 January 2011, 13:59
This is more common over night at lorry yards as they have bigger cats. Takes something to take one from a tesco car park during the day. Sure it didn't just come off? lol
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Martz on 23 January 2011, 14:27
butchered off?? you ever tried removing one? it is a lot easier to undo the exhaust clamps and remove it. I think it was that rusty it fell off and she made up an excuse because as you say the fumes are dangerous for your child's health.

easy way to stop this if it really was stolen, is to lower the car so you can't even get a jack underneath it

Hmmmmm a 53 plate vehicle. Unlikely rust. Deck a people carrier? Thanks for the advice, I must now go and get coilovers for my van to prevent that from attack!  :rolleyes:You must drive a Corsa with a comment like that.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 23 January 2011, 15:02
I'm not bothered I have no cat :evil: and my car is to low to get a normal jack underneath even if it did    :grin: good times
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: shepgti on 23 January 2011, 15:06
they can have my cat(s)  as long as they replace it with a bit of pipe :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: tdi_blu on 23 January 2011, 15:21
I work for B.T and our vans mainly transits get done regular as there left overnight at exchanges that are not very secure.Someone told me they get about £30 to £50 a CAT of a transit as there pretty big.
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Post by: VW BUSH on 23 January 2011, 15:59
£25 per cat + petrol angle grinder = loads of money.

If you lived in Mitcham near Nebbits scrap yard you will know what I mean :sick:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Khare on 23 January 2011, 16:43
As Tazzy said, this has been around for a while. Apparently cats have a very small amount of gold inside and some other precious materials that the thieves accumulate and then sell for good money. In America this is a serious crime and over there it's easy peasy as most vehicles are SUV's and you don't need a jack to easily nick the cat.
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: emery1990 on 23 January 2011, 17:17
No gold, platinum is why people want them, if golds like £7 a gram platinum's got to be more, so like £50 per cat.

I've heard diesels dont need them? Man at college said he took his off ages ago to sell it lol, still passes its mot etc.
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: Khare on 23 January 2011, 17:21
Ahh that's the one, platinum.

Yeah diesels don't require cats, they do have smoke tests though and removing the cat increases the smoke put out  :smiley:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: dan7712 on 23 January 2011, 17:29
Ahh that's the one, platinum.

Yeah diesels don't require cats, they do have smoke tests though and removing the cat increases the smoke put out  :smiley:

Yeah, but these smoke tests are very slack. My 306TD doesn't have a CAT and the amount of smoke that pumps out the back of it is insane! I mean, you don't want to stand by the exhaust when it starts up nor if I put my foot down. You will be covered in smoke! Yet it has never been mentioned on the MOT. However, seems as it is very high emissions the tax is a killer!
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: JC on 23 January 2011, 17:40
Yeah diesels don't require cats, they do have smoke tests though and removing the cat increases the smoke put out  :smiley:

best tell my son in law who has just had to have one changed for the MOT . . . . . . ..  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: clipperjay on 23 January 2011, 21:05
if you saw someone doing this would you confrontthem? I would as I believe in right and wrong and I would not be wrong for one of these low life to get a good kick in (although Pikeys normally find you and kill you!).

No I wouldn't, I'd keep a bloody low profile and call the police - I've never been stabbed and have no interest in experiencing such an activity.

I believe in right and wrong, but I believe more in being around to watch my kids grow up and I'm not going to forfeit that for a catalytic converter!

I always thought thats the problem in todays society no one give a fu*k and rather ignore it, kind of reminds me of the Newyorker who got mugged back in the 80's and people just standing watching it for fun!
Flip side is you could get done for GBH if it got out of hand?
Guess it depends if it was happening to your car   :grin: 

Yes CATS have some nice metal in them worth a bit hence a CAT could be about £800 £1000   :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: emery1990 on 23 January 2011, 21:13
Brand new, or worth it at the scrappies ? If so they are gicing people proper crap prices lol!!
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Post by: thatwillis on 23 January 2011, 21:52
Price fluctuate last i heard they were getting 20quid each at scrappies. But sometimes just not worth it so they don't buy them.

All the more reason to slam your ride  :laugh: if they cant get underneath they cant have your cat.

Mot man: Where is your cat
you: it was stolen that's why i am running decat  :cool:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: danny_p on 24 January 2011, 00:22
got £55 on friday for the cat that fell off my old vectra, well worth retreving it from the hedge  :smiley:
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: F17BAD on 24 January 2011, 10:56
Not read all this thread, but CATS getting stolen is quite a common thing with the pikeys, as is Batterys from cars or trucks, place near me had batterys stolen off 70 trucks over a weekend :shocked:, something to do with a certain metal in them.
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: clipperjay on 24 January 2011, 10:57
Batteries weigh big time esp lorry ones, which contain copper and lead
Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: F17BAD on 24 January 2011, 11:01
Batteries weigh big time esp lorry ones, which contain copper and lead

Yeah quite a feat doing 70 trucks!, its a MOT station for trucks and the same place also owns another truck related company next door, both were hit. their is a pikey site right next to it too  :grin:



Title: Re: Theives nicking catalytic converters! - Sticky this pls
Post by: clipperjay on 24 January 2011, 17:43
Batteries weigh big time esp lorry ones, which contain copper and lead

Yeah quite a feat doing 70 trucks!, its a MOT station for trucks and the same place also owns another truck related company next door, both were hit. their is a pikey site right next to it too  :grin:






pikey site next door enough said  :laugh:
Lets hope some acid got on there skin and they didn't wash it for a few days  :laugh:
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Post by: danny_p on 24 January 2011, 17:44
on some of he agricutural kit we secure the batterys with a coouple of welded on straps of 75mmx10mm steel,   the only way to get them out is to cut the weld off the ends so the strap can be pulled up and battery removed in normal way,   makes changing batterys a PITA but drasticly reduces need for new batterys,  as the cheepest ones we use are nearly £200 it's worth the bother esp as most kit has 2 batterys