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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Coolbreeze on 18 January 2011, 22:07
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Having some serious problems with this. How do I remove the airbag from the steering wheel? In principle, I can see how I should do it. I see the 2 clips on the back, but Im having huge difficulties actually getting it off. Is there some sort of trick to it?
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Flat head screwdriver and patience mate
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I've not taken the one off my mk6 as I've had no call to, but I've done 3 mk5 ones which are basically the same wheel with cosmetic differences.
Use a mirror if you hadn't already, much easier to see where you're poking and a big thick flat head screwdriver as Doc suggests.
When it comes off it does quite suddenly as the springs are quite springy.
Technically I should say here that you should remove the battery terminals first and make sure there is absolutely no static electricity in the car or you could end up looking slightly different from now on. Good luck!
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The Mk6 has four plastic clips inside the wheel as well as the visible metal ones.
Like the Doc say it only requires a flat head screw driver but does take some force to get the airbag to release from the clips inside, way more than the Mk5 wheel.
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Disconnect the battery and leave for at least 20mins before doing anything.
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Surely the ECU or internal IT system would need to be notified of this as well, else it will keep appearing as a fault when servicing or MOT ?
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If the battery is disconnected then no fault will be logged.
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If the battery is disconnected then no fault will be logged.
When they replenished my front bumper they disconnected the battery and Darren discoverd numerous fault codes.
The car went in twice after that for rear bumper fettling and they have not told me whether they disconnected the battery or not. They had to remove the rear sensors for the paint job. I have a sneaky feeling my car will be registering fault codes again.
There is only one person close to me with a laptop and the necessary software and expertise who can check this. Will he be available at some stage in the future if I give him plenty of notice to make a 6.30 pm date in Knightsbridge? Am I being too presumptious? :grin:
Sorry a bit OT.
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Just a note: If you disconnectthe battery it will log fault codes (not airbag laching ones) but they self clear after a while. I have done work for TRW airbag systems :wink: As said just disconnect the battery and leave for 20m->1h allowing the capacitance in the airbag control unit to discharge.
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Also worthwhile making sure you have earthed yourself or touched an earth point before touching the airbag as a static discharge could set it off.
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Also worthwhile making sure you have earthed yourself or touched an earth point before touching the airbag as a static discharge could set it off.
Yeh. Happened to me. Had earthed myself, I thought. Cracked 2 ribs.
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Yeah, it may also be worth wearing your bomb disposal suit, just incase.
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Yeah, it may also be worth wearing your bomb disposal suit, just incase.
I think Simonpolly might have one kicking around. :grin:
Das Auto certailnly has one. :cool:
Not OT just yet, just a response. :grin:
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Mightn't be a bad idea :laugh:
Wolfson Electrostatics in collaboration with a leading car manufacturer has investigated the potential problem of unintentional airbag deployment of passenger, driver and knee airbags on a number of vehicles due to static electricity.
In past studies by Wolfson Electrostatics and other investigators it was found that airbag systems can be sensitive to electrostatic discharge (ESD) and occasionally, as a result of such a discharge, produce an unintentional deployment.
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^^^ Maybe someone should tell the Russian's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZRuCeyI0Q
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^^^ Maybe someone should tell the Russian's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZRuCeyI0Q
LMFAO! :laugh:
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Back to topic :laugh:
Here is the official VW workshop guide text: -
WARNING
Pyrotechnic components always contain a propellant that generates a gas during combustion. On some versions, a separate compressed gas reservoir is available to generate the gas.
This compressed gas is stored under high pressure in a compressed gas tank.
Ignition of the pyrotechnic components is by means of an electric/mechanical igniter.
Testing, removing, installing and repair work may only be performed by qualified personnel.
For airbag units, there are no exchange intervals.
Under no circumstances should checks be carried out with a test lamp, voltmeter or ohmmeter.
Pyrotechnic components may only be checked in installed state and with vehicle diagnosis, testing and information systems approved by the manufacturer.
When working on pyrotechnic components and airbag control unit -J234-, the battery earth strap must be disconnected with the ignition switched on. Then cover negative terminal.
A waiting time of 10 seconds is necessary after disconnecting the battery.
The battery must be connected with the ignition SWITCHED ON. When doing this, there should be no-one inside the vehicle. Exception: Vehicles with battery inside passenger compartment. In this case do not stay anywhere near the effective range of the airbags and seat belts.
Wash hands after coming into contact with triggered pyrotechnic components of restraint system.
Pyrotechnic components must not be opened or repaired; always use new parts (risk of injury).
Pyrotechnic components that have been dropped onto a hard surface or show signs of damage must not be installed in a vehicle.
Before handling pyrotechnic components of the restraint system, for example before separating an electrical connection, the mechanic must electrostatically discharge himself/herself. Electrostatic discharge is achieved by touching earthed metallic parts, such as the door striker plate.
Pyrotechnic components must be installed immediately after they have been removed from their packaging.
If work is interrupted, the pyrotechnic component must be stored back in its packaging.
Leaving the pyrotechnic component unattended is prohibited.
Pyrotechnic components must not come into contact with grease, cleaning solution or similar.
Pyrotechnic components must not be subjected to temperatures above 100 °C even for short periods.
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^ I love the people who write those things. :grin: I read them at work all the time about things i have developed. :grin:
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So iv tied both prying the clip downward, rotating the screw driver to pry it down that way and im getting nothing! i was expecting it to spring off once it clears the lug but it just gets closer to the wheel.
Do you have to unclip the 4 clips that are inside (someone mentioned in this thread) or are they just whats stopping it from popping off and it just needs a good yank?
Any tips would be much appreciated!
Heres a pic of the clip
http://i.imgur.com/7qGYJl.jpg
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You dont need to unclip the 4 clips inside just the two either side and PULL :wink:
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when you say "just the two either side" do you mean as in the press this clip down http://i.imgur.com/7qGYJl.jpg and pull then the same for the otherside?
Im scared im going to break something pulling it! :undecided:
Also is there any difference between disconnecting the + of the battery rather than the -?
Probably a stupid question but im a clanky not a spark! Hammers are my tools!
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You really need to pull hard and it will "pop" off, the first time is the worst :rolleyes:
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Iv retired for the night, sick of holding a torch in a steamed up car! getting funny looks from the neighbours!
At least i know what im doings right i just need to pull harder!
I suppose the worst that can happen is an airbag goes off point blank to my face! :embarassed:
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when you say "just the two either side" do you mean as in the press this clip down http://i.imgur.com/7qGYJl.jpg and pull then the same for the otherside?
Yes
Im scared im going to break something pulling it! :undecided:
You won't
Also is there any difference between disconnecting the + of the battery rather than the -?
Never really though about that, suppose not
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when you say "just the two either side" do you mean as in the press this clip down http://i.imgur.com/7qGYJl.jpg and pull then the same for the otherside?
Yes
Im scared im going to break something pulling it! :undecided:
You won't
Also is there any difference between disconnecting the + of the battery rather than the -?
Never really though about that, suppose not
Disconnecting the negative stops capacitors draining and zapping you
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Disconnecting the negative stops capacitors draining and zapping you
Now where's the fun in that? :laugh:
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Finally got it off!
Just wondering if anybody had a spare wire in there which wasnt connected to anything?
Iv got a wire that comes out of a connecter with other wires, the other wires are tied together and go to the airbag whereas this one is just on its own.
Any ideas?
Can anybody do me a favour and confirm theres is the same?
Thanks
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x465/quinnii/IMG_0825.jpg)
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x465/quinnii/IMG_0822.jpg)
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Disconnecting the negative stops capacitors draining and zapping you
Now where's the fun in that? :laugh:
The fun in that comes when the 20,000v coil pack decides to earth itself and you have your hand on the engine block :grin:
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Im guessing its important as my horn doesnt work now! Sh!t :angry:
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Oops :sad:
Sorry mate I've no idea what it is or what you've pulled it off :sad:
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Any ideas guys? Please!
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Any chance of a clear photo of therear of your airbag and insid th steering wheel "head on" so I can scratch my head a bit?
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Yer no problem! Il have to get them posted up tomorrow now though as I'm of onto night shift!
Thanks for wanting to look into it though
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I'll try my best, I'm stuck at the mo as Mrs Doc is using the golf and I've got the disco bus so I can't take mine apart to look :sad:
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Got it sorted! That wire that was loose had unclipped from the back of the airbag, when looking at the airbag its not obvious where its from as it sits on a thin metal bar that goes around the whole circumference of the airbag.
You can see it on this photo on the bottom right next to the two yellow wires if you look carefully.
For some reason my wire for this was part of a seperate loom so when the airbag popped out it pulled this free.
Anyway thanks for offering to help Doc, hopefully someone will learn from my mistakes! :tongue:
And after all that im not sure if i even like the O-shift GT's!!! :grin:
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Heres the pic btw http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/chris171280/20102009110.jpg :laugh:
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And after all that im not sure if i even like the O-shift GT's!!! :grin:
A what???
Glad your sorted :wink:
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These:
http://www.osirusa.com/PROD/OSIR-OSHFT-GT.html
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These:
http://www.osirusa.com/PROD/OSIR-OSHFT-GT.html
They look nice in the pics, do they light up?
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Yer il get you some pics tomorrow if you want.
The light glows up from the behind the wheel and catches the lip at the top of them.
They look nice with the aluminium on the wheel they just stick up a bit too far for my liking!
They have got a really nice feel to them though, they are quite heavy aswell so they make the shifters feel a lot more responsive.
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Yes please pics would be great :wink:
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Got some pics for you, girlfriends took the camera now though!
Some pics of the local nightclub floors will be filling the memory card as we speak! :tongue:
Il get them up tomorrow!
I might start a build thread because its something i wish i had done on my last car once i got the mod bug!
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Quinnii - please read this :wink: - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=184362.0