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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Steve30 on 11 January 2011, 16:29

Title: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 January 2011, 16:29
should diesel Mk6 Golf's be on this forum? Your views & feedback please
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Rhyso on 11 January 2011, 16:32
1- 5's are.  And some posh Golfs  :tongue:

Why would you exclude 6?  :huh:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 11 January 2011, 16:33
Bit of a pointless thread no?
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 January 2011, 16:35
Yes I agree , but some people dont agree for some reason Rhyso ? I'm very curious to what people really think about Diesel Golf being on the forum and there views??  :cool:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 January 2011, 16:36
Bit of a pointless thread no?

Not sure yet Slick maybe ?? :undecided:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 11 January 2011, 16:40
A golf is a golf is a golf.

The forum has evolved as has the model and engines put in them. The forum could have either been a stick in the mud and risk being left behind, or moved forward and tried to keep people happy.

Diesel is always going to be a winner in terms of ownership as it pays dividends to own one. Petrol cars are fast becoming weekend cars as they cost too much to run over large milage.

There has been a subsection made in order to try and keep it ordered, and to placate threads like this appearing.

Simple answer is, if you don't like diesels, don't look in the diesel sections.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 11 January 2011, 17:08
A golf is a golf is a golf.

Hmm... not convinced. If we were part of a golf owner's forum then yes a golf is a golf is a golf but if I remember correctly then this site is called golfGTI.co.uk which I consider to be specific to GTI models.

There are other forums for specific models such as mk6 owners forums and R owners forums. With the exception of P3eps there are no R owners on this forum that I can think of because they have their own forum.

The reason the GTD is acceptable is because it is a GTI variant. The R is a separate model as are standard 1.4 Golf's. All are equally valuable models in the range but to say that they are all the same is a bit too general I think.

I personally have no problem if there was a GTI section and a GTD section within mk6. I do however feel that it should be called the GTD section and not just Tdi as Tdi in no way refers to the pedigree of the GTD.

If a golf was just a golf then why do we all have GTI branded sterring wheels, GTI specific alloys, GTI tartan seats, GTI levels of specification, GTI engines, GTI suspension setups and GTI brakes.

We all bought GTI/D models because we wanted GTI's or GTD's. That's not just because of he 2.0 TSI or TDI Engine, or the 5 seat configuration, or the styling, but also because the car is iconic and our understanding of that icon is class, quality, performance and practicality.

So why then should we deny that icon and call the GTD section the Tdi section.





Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Keithuk on 11 January 2011, 17:25
Other forums have a TDI/GTD section so why not?

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=36

There are TDI only forums as well know.  :wink:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/forum/

http://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Exonian on 11 January 2011, 17:31
^^^ Well, I'm half way between Slick and Penguin on this one like the proverbial rose between two thorns  :laugh:
I think everyone is welcome on the forum as a whole, but the topics should be kept sensibly in the right section. The TDI forum should stay as TDI not GTD, and should be used for Diesel related issues only such as trainspotting (joke!), running issues & tuning and maintenance specific to heavy oil vehicles. I don't believe the GTD has any heritage as such. Early (pre mk6) GTDs were just like Golf Drivers, normal spec vehicles with a bit of sporty trim. The mk3 and mk4 sporty Diesels were often badged as GTs or even GTIs. The mk6 GTD is a half way house between GT and GTI and thus has plenty in common with both (and neither!).
The general mk6 area should of course be mostly GTIs 'cos it's a GTI forum after all, but as Slick says, it's still just a Golf. A mass produced shopping car with a sporty edge, and thus there are many owners of different Golf models that have much in common with GTI (and R) owners. For instance, what if there is a whole spate of 'normal' Golfs that have a particular fault develop that will be shared with GTIs? If the owners are put off from posting in here many of us will be unaware of it unless we frequent dozens of other forums (some of us do!!  :laugh: ).
So long as the topic is relevant to the chassis model type I reckon everyone has plenty to offer and benefit from information and banter wise.
But keep the TDI section TDI specific and not things like brake discs on GTDs getting a lip after two weeks use when this is likely to affect ALL Golfs :smiley:

I thank you.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Sam on 11 January 2011, 18:19
Why start your own thread on this? Its in off topic
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: The Danno on 11 January 2011, 18:39

There are other forums for specific models such as mk6 owners forums and R owners forums. With the exception of P3eps there are no R owners on this forum that I can think of because they have their own forum.


There's quite a few R owners on here. Mac7, SilverChariot and me to name but a few.

My personal opinion is that the GTI, GTD and R should co-exist in this forum section together. They are all variants of the original MK6 GTI really, regardess of engine, trim etc. VW have lined them up like that...just look at their website. If VW think like that, then who are we to argue. We must move with the times...Anyway, i like being on here as there are more of you than on the niche forums, especially for the R, and as we share so many similarities it would be a shame to divide us all up.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: RedHP on 11 January 2011, 18:49

My personal opinion is that the GTI, GTD and R should co-exist in this forum section together. They are all variants of the original MK6 GTI really, regardess of engine, trim etc.
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Agreed, this is the Golf Mk6 forum so all us Mk6 owners (and even others, if they are helpful) should share our thoughts and experiences.
However, I think I have noticed a Dieseasel area (TDI or GTD or something), well thats just simply fascist  :evil:
Therefore, there should also be a GTi etc area  :grin:

Red
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Hartside on 11 January 2011, 18:56
Not bothered at all, perfectly happy for smoggies (no not people from Middlesborough) to inhabit the forum with us GTI owners  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: am1w on 11 January 2011, 19:19
The more the merrier. Safety in numbers and all that. A good gang bang never hurt anyone. :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Jimble on 11 January 2011, 19:30
Personally i'm not fussy, if someone has something interesting to say then great, regardless of what they drive. Having said that i do think people shouldn't winge or complain when someone has little playful dig at them for driving an oil burner! :evil: It is a GTI forum after all!
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: The Doc on 11 January 2011, 19:34
In my mind all golf drivers, enthusiasts or even haters are welcome.

GTI = top of range fwd petrol icon going back to the MK1.

GTD = top of range fwd diesel icon going back to the MK1.

Golf R = 4wd highest performing production golf ever.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: VWKev on 11 January 2011, 21:11
1- 5's are.  And some posh Golfs  :tongue:

Why would you exclude 6?  :huh:

1-5's shouldnt be there.

the forum should be called golfforum.co.uk - its the golfgti.co.uk forum, the url is specific but the content is not.

would you not be a little annoyed going to somewhere like toppstiles.co.uk and finding fridge freezers ?

GTD and any other diesel for that matter should be f**kin burned.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: The Doc on 11 January 2011, 21:35
Steve, you should have done a poll - it's been a while  :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Tone2have on 11 January 2011, 21:45
Do Massey Ferguson have a forum? I think that's where most tractor owners should post :smug:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 January 2011, 21:45
Steve, you should have done a poll - it's been a while  :grin:

Stick one in there Doc ? :wink:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: The Doc on 11 January 2011, 21:55
I wish I could but I can't - the NOx must have gone to my brain  :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: flc1962 on 11 January 2011, 22:18
For my two pence worth, (smoggy and only a GT) I've learnt some good stuff here and bounced some Idea's off people. If it really came down to it everyone could say yes I have a GTi/GTD as some of the issues described here will be the same for all models.

Its not like politics where you need to vote for a leader, people have the power to join or leave when they want. I would say keep the wording as it is.

After all I know my place, (down trodden  :embarassed:) same as in the house, In the 1800's I would have been a pesant or servant. Nothing changed there eh!. :cry:


HOPE this is ok with you GTi/GTD owners if not please feel free to change the wording :wink:

Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 11 January 2011, 22:33
I'll give a simple answer to accommodate everyone.

It's a FREE forum, for people to gather, make friends, find out about their chosen model and perhaps even modify it. There is no fee to pay, it's pretty relaxed and easy going, and we usually all have a good crack, even meeting up at shows and the like. Oh did I mention it is free? There is no obligation to use it, and it evolves to suit the changing times and car trends. To be honest you get a sh!tload of good info and other stuff for nadda, zilch, nowt, nothing. By the way it is free.

Don't like the place and how it's run, the door is over there ->. Leave your key on the way out. Hope that helps. :smiley:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 07:16
GTD and any other diesel for that matter should be f**kin burned.
Why do you have so much hatred for diesel cars?
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 07:27
A golf is a golf is a golf.

Hmm... not convinced. If we were part of a golf owner's forum then yes a golf is a golf is a golf but if I remember correctly then this site is called golfGTI.co.uk which I consider to be specific to GTI models.

There are other forums for specific models such as mk6 owners forums and R owners forums. With the exception of P3eps there are no R owners on this forum that I can think of because they have their own forum.

The reason the GTD is acceptable is because it is a GTI variant. The R is a separate model as are standard 1.4 Golf's. All are equally valuable models in the range but to say that they are all the same is a bit too general I think.

I personally have no problem if there was a GTI section and a GTD section within mk6. I do however feel that it should be called the GTD section and not just Tdi as Tdi in no way refers to the pedigree of the GTD.

If a golf was just a golf then why do we all have GTI branded sterring wheels, GTI specific alloys, GTI tartan seats, GTI levels of specification, GTI engines, GTI suspension setups and GTI brakes.

We all bought GTI/D models because we wanted GTI's or GTD's. That's not just because of he 2.0 TSI or TDI Engine, or the 5 seat configuration, or the styling, but also because the car is iconic and our understanding of that icon is class, quality, performance and practicality.

So why then should we deny that icon and call the GTD section the Tdi section.
... it will put GTD drivers off coming here. Nail head hit.

Doc had an excellent suggestion - call the section "TDI and the return of the GTD".

Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2011, 08:08
I'll give a simple answer to accommodate everyone.

It's a FREE forum, for people to gather, make friends, find out about their chosen model and perhaps even modify it. There is no fee to pay, it's pretty relaxed and easy going, and we usually all have a good crack, even meeting up at shows and the like. Oh did I mention it is free? There is no obligation to use it, and it evolves to suit the changing times and car trends. To be honest you get a sh!tload of good info and other stuff for nadda, zilch, nowt, nothing. By the way it is free.

Don't like the place and how it's run, the door is over there ->. Leave your key on the way out. Hope that helps. :smiley:

And since its FREE you should have a few pennies burning in your pocket so do something worthwhile with it and donate to the forum charity

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111467


I personally have no problem if there was a GTI section and a GTD section within mk6. I do however feel that it should be called the GTD section and not just Tdi as Tdi in no way refers to the pedigree of the GTD.

... it will put GTD drivers off coming here. Nail head hit.

Doc had an excellent suggestion - call the section "TDI and the return of the GTD".


How??  The only thing putting people off visiting is the amount of crap and pointless threads.  Judging a forum purely by its name is rather short sighted and prejudiced don't you think?  :huh:

I joined this forum for help with my MK2 NON-GTI.  The fact it was called Golf Gti in no way put me off as after about 30 minutes of flicking through posts I found information relevant to my car

As Slick said this site has worked by evolving to incorporate all models of Golf.  Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.





Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 08:27
Rhyso, this is prejuice...

GTD and any other diesel for that matter should be f**kin burned.

I am just talking about a small acknowlegment of the GTD pedigree. This small acknowlegment will be more inviting to GTD drivers who are casual browsers of this forum, rather than a section called just TDI.

I currently drive a 1.9TDI Match BTW.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2011, 08:32
Rhyso, this is prejuice...

GTD and any other diesel for that matter should be f**kin burned.

I am just talking about a small acknowlegment of the GTD prdegree.

If you're letting Kev's comments get to you then there's something wrong.  You get haters of types / models.  Like I've said before - ignore them  :wink:



Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: The Doc on 12 January 2011, 08:39
GTD and any other diesel for that matter should be f**kin burned.
Why do you have so much hatred for diesel cars?

Daz mate, why do you care about his opinion? It's his opinion and he's entitled to it, as are we all. Yes I did suggest a compromise of "TDI and the return of the GTD" but in the same post I said I'm personaly happy with because that's what they are. You must have expected a little groaning about diesels in here after all is said and done, just don't bite and rise above it :-)

Live and let live, you need to work out which people are bating you (us) around here and fast - best not to respond and move the topic on.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 08:47
If you're letting Kev's comments get to you then there's something wrong.  You get haters of types / models.  Like I've said before  ignore them  :wink:

How do you think it looks to casual forum browsers?
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: The Doc on 12 January 2011, 08:53
Honestly?

Like a mad house, but were working on it  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 08:56
Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater number.
It is far more likely that members and browsers of this forum are going to be GTI/GTD/R drivers. Other car drivers have the entire forum for discussion. I'm just talking about 1 small section.

Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2011, 09:05
The only thing putting people off visiting is the amount of crap and pointless threads. 

If you're letting Kev's comments get to you then there's something wrong.  You get haters of types / models.  Like I've said before  ignore them  :wink:

How do you think it looks to casual forum browsers?

See my quote above.  

From my perspective, Kev's quote is tongue in cheek and I think if you were browsing the forum you'd soon pick up on the type of comments etc he makes and from there you can form your own opinion.  Would you let ONE person's comments / style of posting put you off a forum containing thousands of members?  :undecided:

I think you need to spend some time in the other sections of the forum to get a flavour of the banter that goes on within the forum.

I called one of the lads a lazy cnut yesterday - he knows I don't mean it as even though I've never met him, I've helped him out with advice etc over the last few months and its all friendly banter  :smiley:

Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater number.
It is far more likely that members and browsers of this forum are going to be GTI/GTD/R drivers. Other car drivers have the entire forum for discussion. I'm just talking about 1 small section.

I disagree.  The more relative, appropriate content you have, the higher up the search rankings the site will be and therefore attract non-GTI / GTD / R members.  The MK4 and Mk5 sections attract all TDI owners not just the high performance GTI variants i.e the 150 and Anniversary models



Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 15:56
You honestly think a 'casual browser' is going to spend so much time here that he/she will get an understanding of the personalities and language used?

So you think a casual browser spends lots of time on 1 internet forum?

You seem to think that I need to spend more time here so I can understand why some people here are so rude and give me a bad impression of this forum. :rolleyes:

Sorry I don't have that much time.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 16:09
Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.

... did anyone ask for the section to be called just the GTD?

I'm not asking for the section to be called GTD? I just think, as other forum members do, that the performance diesel should be acknowledged and included in the title in some way.

My suggestion was TDI + GTD, but Docs suggestion is better.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2011, 16:11
If they are looking for information then they'll spend perhaps 5-10 minutes on here looking  :undecided:

Easily enough time to get a jist of how people post

This forum is one of many; each one is full of people who give you bad impressions.  

You seem to focus on the negative aspects rather than the positive.  This forum has been, and will continue to be an excellent resource for ALL GOLF owners, not just the go-faster ones.

Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.

... did anyone ask for the section to be called just the GTD?


At some point yes that was asked for
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Exonian on 12 January 2011, 16:15
As polls are all the flavour this week, why not put it to the vote?
One of the Heavy Oil mods should stick a thread up in the TDI section with a few name suggestions and put it on a 7 day vote.
That way users of the TDI/GTD section will see it and vote and other members who don't/won't use the section shouldn't end up spamming it too much (probably)  :nerd:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 16:17
A golf is a golf is a golf.

The reason the GTD is acceptable is because it is a GTI variant. The R is a separate model as are standard 1.4 Golf's. All are equally valuable models in the range but to say that they are all the same is a bit too general I think.

I personally have no problem if there was a GTI section and a GTD section within mk6. I do however feel that it should be called the GTD section and not just Tdi as Tdi in no way refers to the pedigree of the GTD.  

We all bought GTI/D models because we wanted GTI's or GTD's. That's not just because of he 2.0 TSI or TDI Engine, or the 5 seat configuration, or the styling, but also because the car is iconic and our understanding of that icon is class, quality, performance and practicality.

So why then should we deny that icon and call the GTD section the Tdi section.

Nice to see someone so open minded on this forum. Especially as the comments come form a GTI driver.  :cool:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 12 January 2011, 16:22
VW call it a TDI. That's what it is. Simples.

Otherwise, please see my previous post.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 12 January 2011, 16:37
Surely by calling it the GTD section you put off non-GTI / GTD owners of whom there are far greater numbers.

... did anyone ask for the section to be called just the GTD?

I'm not asking for the section to be called GTD? I just think, as other forum members do, that the performance diesel should be acknowledged and included in the title in some way.

My suggestion was TDI + GTD, but Docs suggestion is better.

I originally asked for it to be called the GTD section. Not from the point of view of excluding other non-performance model owners, but instead with the aim of giving the GTD and GTI model equal footing.

I'll also be honest and say that I joined this forum because I thought it was specifically focused on GTI models. Otherwise "golfmk6" might have been a more attractive alternative.

When you buy a car such as the GTI over a standard petrol, you want to enjoy the pedigree.

And, as Daz Auto is saying, when you look at the GTD over a standard diesel you also want to enjoy the pedigree.  

VW call it a TDI. That's what it is. Simples.

Otherwise, please see my previous post.

But VW also market the GTD as separate to other diesels. The GTD, GTI and R all have a distinct section on the VW site. The GTD is not included in the standard diesel section nor is the GTI in the standard petrol section.

I drive a GTI and I will admit that sometimes I enjoy a bit of the diesel bashing just for banter. But the GTD is a special model and I don't think having a "GTI" section and a "TDI" section gives the GTD the respect it deserves.

Alternatively how would we feel about calling the two sections TSI and TDI? Personally I wouldn't like that because it doesn't recognise the special status of the GTI.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 12 January 2011, 16:52
I will also add that I do also like Doc's suggestion.

But here's another thing.

If the site is made up of so many people who don't drive GTI models....

and

The GTI/ GTD/ R models are "just golfs"...

why don't we change the forum name to www.golf.co.uk

Because to me the jist of this topic is that a Golf GTI forum should not expect to be specific to GTI models.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 12 January 2011, 17:20
I've re-read my last post and it looks like I'm campaigning for a change of the site name. I'll clarify my intention before this gets any bigger.

What I am trying to put across is that the site we are all on is called "Golf GTI.co.uk". If there are individuals on the site without GTI models then that shows the title does not scare or intimidate them away.

Therefore I do not believe it is valid to say that calling the diesel GTI section "GTD" would exclude standard diesel owners if they are already flocking to a site called "GTI".

At the end of the day the content of the forum remains the same and we are only arguing over the name. I just personally feel that the GTD deserves it's own section and a title which indicates towards the GTD.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Keithuk on 12 January 2011, 17:27
As you say PenguinGTI when I first came here I thought GTI forum ok I'll have a read of the threads and see if its worth joining. Yes there are a lot of things that are common on both models so its worth joining. A TDI/GTD section would be an advantage to TDI owners but all this speculation as its down to admin in the end.

Yes it should have been a poll thread.  :wink:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 12 January 2011, 17:32
So hold up.

The impression I get from these posts is this (I appreciate your clarification Penguin). A handful of members of a free site, that they use for their own benefit, that has been running for the last 9 years, want the admin to change the forum name just because they are not happy with the forum catering for more than the over hyped GTI branding name?

Seriously guys, get a grip.

Edit: Search for vw golf on google and it comes up on the 4th page. So eventually, look hard enough and you will find this place.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 12 January 2011, 17:48
So hold up.

The impression I get from these posts is this (I appreciate your clarification Penguin). A handful of members of a free site, that they use for their own benefit, that has been running for the last 9 years, want the admin to change the forum name just because they are not happy with the forum catering for more than the over hyped GTI branding name?

Seriously guys, get a grip. 

Not at all. If you read my post you would see I clarified that I did not intend for the site to change it's name. I mentioned it merely to demonstrate that affording a title which respects the pedigree of the models does not necessarily scare away owners of different models.
I have no problem with owners of other models coming on the site for advice.

But from your post you think that the GTI brand is "more than over hyped". I apologise if I am enthusiastic about my GTI on a GTI owners forum.

And does the free nature of the site have any bearing on our conversation?
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 12 January 2011, 17:52

Edit: Search for vw golf on google and it comes up on the 4th page. So eventually, look hard enough and you will find this place.

Search for Golf GTI on google and it's first.

Depends if you want a GTI forum or a VW Golf forum.

"Golf GTI.co.uk... An independent site for Golf GTI enthusiasts"
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 12 January 2011, 18:11
So hold up.

The impression I get from these posts is this (I appreciate your clarification Penguin). A handful of members of a free site, that they use for their own benefit, that has been running for the last 9 years, want the admin to change the forum name just because they are not happy with the forum catering for more than the over hyped GTI branding name?

Seriously guys, get a grip. 

Not at all. If you read my post you would see I clarified that I did not intend for the site to change it's name. I mentioned it merely to demonstrate that affording a title which respects the pedigree of the models does not necessarily scare away owners of different models.
I have no problem with owners of other models coming on the site for advice.

But from your post you think that the GTI brand is "more than over hyped". I apologise if I am enthusiastic about my GTI on a GTI owners forum.

And does the free nature of the site have any bearing on our conversation?


Re-read it. I said thanks for your clarification. Oh and also for "catering for more than the overhyped GTI" not a "more than overhyped GTI" I.E. there are better versions and models, but let's not get into that as it's just my opinion.

Yes it does matter if it's free. You (the collective we) are provided this forum without any requirement to help in it's running. Yet now people are voting and insisting that a subsection that was created to help clear out the petrol topics is now changed to another name, or even the entire domain name is changed on a whim because of some sensitive GTI owners. It's pathetic.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Jimble on 12 January 2011, 18:41
I honestly don't know what the big deal is?? Most of the drivers of other golf variants in the section of the forum have been here for quite some time now, way before there was a tdi section in here and everyone got along with a few digs here n there! A few people suggested starting one so thats what happened, why do we need to keep going on and on about it? It seems to me like there have been more noobs in the last 2 months or so than since i registered on here about a year ago so we must be doing something right? I personally have noticed that there is a lot more rubbish of late owing to the disagreements between members but i don't mind, it adds to the entertainment!
My opinion is if you don't like it then fcuk off! :wink:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Horney on 12 January 2011, 18:47
A lot of people sign up with a GTI and then move on to other VW's. Since I registered here I've had 4 GTI's, a T25 Camper, a MKII Polo, a Corrado, a B3 Passat GT and a MKV Polo. Had build threads for all of them. THis site mainly caters for GTI's but over the years there has become a large section of the forum massive that drive non GTI's but have stayed on, this makes it one of the best general Golf and VW forums on the net.

As for the arguements and banter, it's winter. All forums get grumpy at this time of year, every year. It passes once the sun comes out, the temp goes up a few degrees and girls start wearing short skirts again.

Nick
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Jimble on 12 January 2011, 18:56
^I'm looking forward to those threads! :cool:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Horney on 12 January 2011, 18:59
^I'm looking forward to those threads! :cool:

Well this one should keep you amused!

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=176576.0

Nick
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Jimble on 12 January 2011, 19:05
Nout like a good perv!!! :smug:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: p3asa on 12 January 2011, 19:06
If you ask me and nobody is,  :laugh: its all down to badge snobbery.

GTD drivers simply don't want to be classed with the peasants as a lowly TDI.

Like Penguin has said, they bought the top of the range Derv which VW class in the same category as the GTI and R. So I can see their point. I would probably feel the same.  

However, they keep bleating on that the GTD and GTI are virtually the same so as such, most if not all the posts should be going in to the MK6 section as opposed to the specific TDI section. So does it really matter at the end of the day?!

Its a service with a wealth of information offered free of charge. If folk are complaining in a roundabout about way about this then its a bad day.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: sundaydriver on 12 January 2011, 19:08
IMHO Everything's fine as it is, it seem's just recently it's about "GTI v GTD",  "Why are GTI drivers so rude to GTD drivers", "GTD bashing", "This forum isnt friendly to GTD owners", "The TDI section should be renamed GTD section" etc etc etc

Maybe you should have bought a GTI if you've got a chip on your shoulder with owning a GTD! :wink:

Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Jimble on 12 January 2011, 19:14
 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 12 January 2011, 19:16
I honestly don't know what the big deal is?? Most of the drivers of other golf variants in the section of the forum have been here for quite some time now, way before there was a tdi section in here and everyone got along with a few digs here n there! A few people suggested starting one so thats what happened, why do we need to keep going on and on about it?

This is my point exactly. I'm glad someone has seen it finally.
Title: Re: MK6 Derv forum or not?
Post by: PenguinGTI on 12 January 2011, 20:48
I honestly don't know what the big deal is?? Most of the drivers of other golf variants in the section of the forum have been here for quite some time now, way before there was a tdi section in here and everyone got along with a few digs here n there! A few people suggested starting one so thats what happened, why do we need to keep going on and on about it?

This is my point exactly. I'm glad someone has seen it finally.

I agree... and have said this before

I do agree with Horney that the forums in general have been a bit grumpy of late.

And further more if you think that members of the public (who have become members of the forum) having an opinion about the development of the forum is pathetic, well good luck on attracting new members. I may not assist on running or moderating the forum but I have tried to help people on here where and when I can. I appreciate the guidance, ideas and community the forum has provided and I have tried my best to repay what I have received. If you think I am a sensitive GTI owner then yes, I am. I want the forum I am invovled in to be the best it can be. And I think that starts with a bit of respect.

This has now gone majorly off topic and I apologise to the OP but I feel what I have said needed to be said.

Ali