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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: cawsey20 on 10 January 2011, 16:01
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Hi chap's ..
Im taking my belovied Mk1 Focus Rs ( sorry ford content ) .. Of the road to allow me to save for a few bit's and stop some prat hitting it during the rest of the winter, Has been a worrying one !..
Now i have a budget of 400-500 quid to spend, Ive been looking into allsort's 1.4 polo cl , 306 D turbo ( sorry )..
But looking around there are so many Mk3 gti 8v's around i would be a fool not to !.
However my mission is obviously save a little cash ! is this actually possible ??.
Currently the RS is reletivly thirsty as you would think from a 2ltr Turbo, 60 quid to fill up and i very rarely get more than 200 miles from that,, Probably 250 at a right push driving like a grandad !.
What are the mk3's like ?? , How much do you use a week ? how many miles and what sort of driving do you do to achive this ??.:)
Bit of a random question i would rather have something with a little poke if im to use it whilst the rs is off the road, I can see me dying of bordum in something silly gutless..
Cheers chaps
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Well for starters theres not much poke in a standard mk3 8v.... i get about 32 Mpg being sensible and about 20 not being sensible usually costs about 55 quid to fill from empty
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Hmm ok mate, Im not after something quick at the end of the day as i have that :), Im wanting something a little more fruity but still ok on fuel if that make's sence ..
How many miles do you do to that 55 quid would you say ? with a mix of good and spirited driving ??..
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I would say about 300 mate some other might be diff but i get about 300
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£55 = about 44 litres or about 9.5 gallons, I average around 30-35mpg (32.5 for the sake of argument) = 308.75 miles :smiley:
I can squeeze out 40mpg on a motorway run with a light right foot, and 'spirited' driving can see around 20mpg, it's all down to the type of driving really.
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If you want something cheap and fun to run (not maintain) then go for a Mk2 1.8 8v
Other wise you'll probs be wanting a 2.0 16v :cool:
I get at most 22 mpg in the vr usually around 18 most of the time i am a wee bit heavy footed...
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or just go for a mk3 tdi or a vento tdi like mine mega miles out of them can run them on bio diesel as the pumps can take it not the slowest things with a tuning box i regularly see about 230 miles to £30
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At the end of the day i guess your right, I mean a polo would see less than the 40mpg stated i guess with a bit of spirited twisty driving !!, Just not quite as fun lol..
Im gutted i think the scrappage scheme has got rid of most of the cheap cars ! Trying to find something is very hard
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Davies, Tuning box,, How much does that set you back and what does it bump the power to ?? ish ..
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right iv got 1 on mine which is soon to come of their about 70 quid upwards for an alright one and takes it to about 115bhp as mines now going all out for 200bhp+
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Davies, Tuning box,, How much does that set you back and what does it bump the power to ?? ish ..
Tuning boxes are a waste of time, all they tend to do is run the cold start map and dump loads of extra fuel, a proper remap is a much better bet.
If you looking for cheap to run then forget a GTI and look at TDI's or a 1.4 Polo.
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Davies, Tuning box,, How much does that set you back and what does it bump the power to ?? ish ..
Tuning boxes are a waste of time, all they tend to do is run the cold start map and dump loads of extra fuel, a proper remap is a much better bet.
If you looking for cheap to run then forget a GTI and look at TDI's or a 1.4 Polo.
one small problem with the logic you have just said nearly all tdis that i know of that are in the mk3s all run the same ecu which controsl a mechanical pump which has an electronic head put o and the ecu that they use is not one that is chippable unless you solder an eprom in then get that flash mapped, only problem with this is it has minimal mapping possiblities and no one i can find will do it in the uk and trust me iv looked the only place is america, i know all this as im doing my uni project on it and thats why iv gone for a hybrid mechanical tdi conversion with a 12mm head in allowing over 250 horse
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Davies, Tuning box,, How much does that set you back and what does it bump the power to ?? ish ..
Tuning boxes are a waste of time, all they tend to do is run the cold start map and dump loads of extra fuel, a proper remap is a much better bet.
If you looking for cheap to run then forget a GTI and look at TDI's or a 1.4 Polo.
one small problem with the logic you have just said nearly all tdis that i know of that are in the mk3s all run the same ecu which controsl a mechanical pump which has an electronic head put o and the ecu that they use is not one that is chippable unless you solder an eprom in then get that flash mapped, only problem with this is it has minimal mapping possiblities and no one i can find will do it in the uk and trust me iv looked the only place is america, i know all this as im doing my uni project on it and thats why iv gone for a hybrid mechanical tdi conversion with a 12mm head in allowing over 250 horse
I am sure you can get them remap / chipped, superchips use do them.
As for 250bhp :rolleyes: sorry but cannot see you getting anywhere close to that figure.
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no offence mate but if you have read as much as me and the fact i do motorsport engineering at uni, it is very possible that couple with the fact i have russ fellowes intake and exhaust manifolds oh and a a gt25bb turbo plus that the guy iv bought a couple of bits of diesel bob tuning in ribchester has used the same setup and it produced 250 brake so its more than possible! thats at 2.2bar of boost
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no offence mate but if you have read as much as me and the fact i do motorsport engineering at uni, it is very possible that couple with the fact i have russ fellowes intake and exhaust manifolds oh and a a gt25bb turbo plus that the guy iv bought a couple of bits of diesel bob tuning in ribchester has used the same setup and it produced 250 brake so its more than possible! thats at 2.2bar of boost
So after all that what mpg will end up.
Interesting you say that it is possible yet VW needed to do major work with PD to get 150bhp.
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The tuning box on the pump will just over-ride the electronic governor meaning it won't govern the amount of fuel going in to the engine.
Oh and using bio fuel long term and high concentration (i.e. B50 or higher) is not such a hot idea as the old mechanical pumps does not have the seals package that is designed to allow biofuel running. Would keep an eye on all of the seals in the fuel system if I was you bud.
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no offence mate but if you have read as much as me and the fact i do motorsport engineering at uni, it is very possible that couple with the fact i have russ fellowes intake and exhaust manifolds oh and a a gt25bb turbo plus that the guy iv bought a couple of bits of diesel bob tuning in ribchester has used the same setup and it produced 250 brake so its more than possible! thats at 2.2bar of boost
So after all that what mpg will end up.
Interesting you say that it is possible yet VW needed to do major work with PD to get 150bhp.
id look into that mate on tdiclub.com seeing as what is the difference between a 115bhp pd and a 150?? oh thats right internally nothing its got a larger turbo front mounted intercooler freer flowing inlet larger injectors to allow more flow and a different map and if you look up a pd engine they can take 400 bhp on standard internals
if youd like to ring diesel BOB tuning in preston im pretty sure he has more knowledge than me or you and he will tell you that 250bhp is achievable itll cost 2 grand plus which i have already spent
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The tuning box on the pump will just over-ride the electronic governor meaning it won't govern the amount of fuel going in to the engine.
Oh and using bio fuel long term and high concentration (i.e. B50 or higher) is not such a hot idea as the old mechanical pumps does not have the seals package that is designed to allow biofuel running. Would keep an eye on all of the seals in the fuel system if I was you bud.
dont need to worry my pump has just been reubilt and had different seals fitted so it can run 100% if wanted but obviously only in summer
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So to answer my question say you get 250bhp out of it what mpg will you get.
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So to answer my question say you get 250bhp out of it what mpg will you get.
lets get this right mate you started having a go first mate i answered a thread question and to answer your question id still prob see 26mpg which is only when i hit boost as the engines performance is geared to 100bgp normally unless on boost, 26 is more than you boys get
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So to answer my question say you get 250bhp out of it what mpg will you get.
lets get this right mate you started having a go first mate i answered a thread question and to answer your question id still prob see 26mpg which is only when i hit boost as the engines performance is geared to 100bgp normally unless on boost, 26 is more than you boys get
Not having a go, just wondered :smiley:
btw my petrol does more.
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in my eyes its nots i like diesel cause its different engines are stronger its just personal opinion you may get more but does it have 250 brake?? lol
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in my eyes its nots i like diesel cause its different engines are stronger its just personal opinion you may get more but does it have 250 brake?? lol
Nope 95bhp :grin:
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whats that in?? that standard
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The tuning box on the pump will just over-ride the electronic governor meaning it won't govern the amount of fuel going in to the engine.
Oh and using bio fuel long term and high concentration (i.e. B50 or higher) is not such a hot idea as the old mechanical pumps does not have the seals package that is designed to allow biofuel running. Would keep an eye on all of the seals in the fuel system if I was you bud.
dont need to worry my pump has just been reubilt and had different seals fitted so it can run 100% if wanted but obviously only in summer
If you are running as high as you say, just be aware of cavities in the pipes/pumping head, and also the injectors laquering as well. :wink: