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Title: what could i get
Post by: LukeD1uk on 08 January 2011, 17:11
Hey guys im looking to get a golf and would like some advice/opinions

Im looking at a max (absolute max) budget of £1500 less if i can

Want to know if i can get a good mk4 for that price or shall i get a mk3 ?

I would prefure a mk4 but i like the mk3 just a smidge less that the 4

Bare in mind i cant really afford to insure some 150bhp gti but a 16v 2L 120bhp ish i could do.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: AlanD on 08 January 2011, 17:12
the 2.0 16v MK3 is also 150bhp by the way.

Just some info for you

MK3 GTI 2.0 8v -115bhp
MK3 GTI 2.0 16v -150bhp
MK4 GTI 2.0 8v -115bhp
MK4 GTi 1.8 20v - 125bhp
MK4 GTI 1.8T 20v - 150bhp

The 8v engines are very slow (do not let anyone else tell you otherwise) so if its speed you want be aware (possible look elsewhere). If its an affordable nice motor then you cant go wrong MK4 2.0 / 1.8 (used to have one). The 1.8T is the pick of the bunch by far though. Not a fan of MK3s but thats just me.

As for what you can get, you need to shop about. Look on Auto Trader and Piston Heads and see what is out there.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Sam on 08 January 2011, 17:18
MK2 FTW!
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Phil1980 on 08 January 2011, 17:19
With that budget I would go for a mk2.  :smiley:  
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: dom on 08 January 2011, 17:19
I would also go for a Mk2 I think  :smiley:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Phil1980 on 08 January 2011, 17:20
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2371196.htm
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: LukeD1uk on 08 January 2011, 17:27
Thanks for the info

When i think of maybe getting a mk2 i think you need a fair ammount of mechanical knowhow (i haz none of this)
And trips to the garage. Not saying they are rust buckets but i dont know what to loom at in the older cars.

A mk3 would be perfect as well as a mk4

Iv had my heart set on a mk3/4. For a while and thats what i aim to get.

Is there anything i should be looking out for when looking at mk3/4's
Like common rust areas common faults to avoid. You have probs answered that question hundreds of times .
Il have a search on the forums when im home and not on my phone :)

Im going to have a go compare session tonight to guage how much the 16v would be to insure,

Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: shepgti on 08 January 2011, 17:34
Thanks for the info

When i think of maybe getting a mk2 i think you need a fair ammount of mechanical knowhow (i haz none of this)
And trips to the garage. Not saying they are rust buckets but i dont know what to loom at in the older cars.

A mk3 would be perfect as well as a mk4

Iv had my heart set on a mk3/4. For a while and thats what i aim to get.

Is there anything i should be looking out for when looking at mk3/4's
Like common rust areas common faults to avoid. You have probs answered that question hundreds of times .
Il have a search on the forums when im home and not on my phone :)

Im going to have a go compare session tonight to guage how much the 16v would be to insure,



any mk3 with a gti badge is overpriced to insure compared to performance.if you want to build a nice looking car you can insure then you'd be looking at a mk4 non gti ie a 1.6 or 1.8 n/a
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: AlanD on 08 January 2011, 17:40
a mk4 non gti ie a 1.6 or 1.8 n/a

The 1.8 MK4 is still classed as a GTI and reflected in the insurance.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: LukeD1uk on 08 January 2011, 17:51
Im going to have a little look tonight at insurance for the 16v mk3 and 20v mk 4

See if its a possibility if not it will be a mk3/4 8v or an unbranded gti
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: dom on 08 January 2011, 18:12
For me the difference in insurance between an 8v mk3 and a 16v mk3 was very little  :smiley:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: shepgti on 09 January 2011, 00:52
For me the difference in insurance between an 8v mk3 and a 16v mk3 was very little  :smiley:

however for me the diff was around 350 quid :smiley:

mk3 8v isnt worth paying out alot on insurance dont be drawn in by the fact its 2.0
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Thom89 on 09 January 2011, 01:14
That sort of money will get you a pretty tidy, and solid Mk2, every bit as good as 1.5Ks worth of Mk3, so seriously worth considering... Old VWs are like old Fords, the older the better!

Thom
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: monkeyalan on 09 January 2011, 01:49
Thanks for the info

When i think of maybe getting a mk2 i think you need a fair ammount of mechanical knowhow (i haz none of this)
And trips to the garage. Not saying they are rust buckets but i dont know what to loom at in the older cars.



A mk3 will probably need as much mechanical attention as a mk2 now. mk3s will be at least 12( nearly 13) years old.

buy a good solid 1990/91 mk2 8v. best of both worlds. try and get a 1991 and you get most of the kit you get on a mk3.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: shepgti on 09 January 2011, 11:42
thing is that in some peoples eyes (including mine) the mk3 and 4 are both nicer looking cars so he may want a nice looking car (all depends on OP age  which im guessing is young because insurance is an issue  :wink:)  maybe one day i'll like the look of the mk2, when im middle aged perhaps :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: leigh_harty on 09 January 2011, 12:12
Mk2 are defo worth a look, i got mine with 11month MOT , 6month tax, very clean, all undersealed inc engine bay. Just needed the by-pass valve taken out so i had heaters and the carb re-plumbing which is easy. 1.6 engine £395  :smiley: Bargain alll day long.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 09 January 2011, 12:29
Ford Ka, cheap insurance, great to drive.  No need to fix it.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: dom on 09 January 2011, 12:37
Ford Ka, cheap insurance, great to drive.  No need to fix it.

Cheap - Yes
Good Drive - Reasonably
No need to fix - True, just check the underside for rot.

My mum had one of these for 5 or 6 years, was a hoot to drive along backroads, slow and frustrating on a-roads and motorways. Very cheap to insure and run, the only thing that went wrong in her ownership was someone (me) sliding it into a kerb and buckling the wheel/bending the wishbone, and a couple of rear shocks.

The last MOT showed it would need considerable welding underneath due to rust, same story with my g/f's grandmas so worth remembering if considering them.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 09 January 2011, 12:43
I've got a Ka that I keep in the Isle of Man as a runabout.  During TT the mountain road is one way.  That Ka often overtakes much faster vehicles.  They do rust a bit, especially as I've fitted a tow ball to launch a boat.  But no MOT on the IOM so who cares?
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: damien010685 on 09 January 2011, 12:44
Isla of man Rocks!!! Bmw M3 Nice day= Floor it!!!!  :evil:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 09 January 2011, 12:45
Isla of man Rocks!!! Bmw M3 Nice day= Floor it!!!!  :evil:

True
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: dom on 09 January 2011, 12:51
Isla of man Rocks!!! Bmw M3 Nice day= Floor crash it!!!!  :evil:

Fixed  :smiley:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: damien010685 on 09 January 2011, 12:55
Isla of man Rocks!!! Bmw M3 Nice day= Floor crash it!!!!  :evil:

Fixed  :smiley:

HAHAHAHA ace!!! either way good day out as long as its not your m3  :grin:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Sam on 09 January 2011, 13:37
Nosh the custard test is calling again;

So thats one picture of some custard on the roof of a ka on the isle of man and a pic of your miss uk wife with the custard
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 09 January 2011, 19:37
There's even a you tube clip of the Ka during mad sunday.  It should be still there.
I'll not bother with the custard, 'cos I'm not due to go to Peel until Easter.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Sam on 09 January 2011, 21:04
There's even a you tube clip of the Ka during mad sunday.  It should be still there.
I'll not bother with the custard, 'cos I'm not due to go to Peel until Easter.

And the custard feat. Miss uk? aka mrs wash
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: damien010685 on 09 January 2011, 21:12
There's even a you tube clip of the Ka during mad sunday.  It should be still there.
I'll not bother with the custard, 'cos I'm not due to go to Peel until Easter.

And the custard feat. Miss uk? aka mrs wash

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 09 January 2011, 21:45
There's even a you tube clip of the Ka during mad sunday.  It should be still there.
I'll not bother with the custard, 'cos I'm not due to go to Peel until Easter.

And the custard feat. Miss uk? aka mrs wash

There's no way I'm posting her on here.
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: damien010685 on 10 January 2011, 11:23
Why not if shes clothed!!
Title: Re: what could i get
Post by: Wayne on 10 January 2011, 11:45
For your budget I would say subject to insurance go for a mk3 16v