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Title: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 11:13
Hi guys, my 16v has a very rich smelling mixture, and my mechanic pointed out that the mixture adjustment screw is actually gone!
I really need this as you can imagine, and cant just go and buy one, does anybody have any ideas?

Or is there anybody with any spare metering heads (mk2 2 16v KR code) that i could buy?

Im stressing about this  :cry:
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 15:06
Ok guys no replies so can somebody tell me if this screw is the same as the mk1? Because there are some on mk1 metering heads on ebay! cheers
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Horney on 07 January 2011, 15:25
MKI's were all 8v and the metering heads are different although they might have the same adjustment screw. Your engine is a KR which was also fitted to 1.8 16v corrados, 1.8 16v B3 Passats those could be other avenues for sourcing a replacement. Have you tried a Bosch injection specialist or even VW for a replacement?

nick
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: UKjarvis on 07 January 2011, 16:13
I have 2 spare screws from 1.8 8v's not sure if there the same, but your welcome to them.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Mew on 07 January 2011, 16:16
Is it definitely gone? Do you/your mechanic know that it's quite deep within the metering head so you need a reasonably long hex key?
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Sam on 07 January 2011, 17:25
Yer was gonna say, you cant just look at it and say its gone, its almost impossible to see. It does just look like an empty hole
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 17:35
Ah, hmm. Well he could be mistaken in that case, but tell me if these pics look right cos theres two hole, and i would like to know what each one is for

Hole 1 (which i think is the CO adjustment)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5131/img0541qz.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/img0541qz.jpg/)


And hole 2, which is just behind it:
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5108/img0540n.jpg) (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/img0540n.jpg/)

Thanks so far guys!!
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 18:00
Also, when it comes to adjusting the CO, can anybody remember which way leans and which way richens? thanks
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Mew on 07 January 2011, 18:02
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=22031.0
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 18:44
Nice thread! But now another dillema... that guide says that 16v's run best at 2%, which my mechanic said it was when he tested it!
So any ideas why it smells sooo rich and smokes white at idle? I know everyone will say head gasket but the water / oil are both fine. Theres no blue smoke, just white smoke, and its worst at idle and eases off when driving. It isnt just condensation neither!
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: tech1889 on 07 January 2011, 18:58
just because oil and water are fine doesnt mean its not a slight head gasket problem.. have you compression tested ??
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: mk2bal on 07 January 2011, 19:16
My 16v steams away  on idle, even when hot.. Its just had a headgasket because it went between 2 cylinders, it did it before and it still does it. Will be doing wur/fuelling check soon, its not far off though cos it idles so smooth and quiet, and goes pretty well-but smells v rich.  not expectin much of a change after..
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: tech1889 on 07 January 2011, 19:25
could it not just be because its an old car and well used parts ?? like many parts more than just one part ??
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: UKjarvis on 07 January 2011, 19:36
Anti clockwise to lessen the mixture and clockwise to increase the mixture the first picture is the place to adjust the mixture and the second is a fixing hole,  mine also had white smoke and was seeming to be running rich but I found one of my injectors wasnt spraying so fuel was pouring in, smell your oil to see if it stinks of fuel,.. also if any of your injectors are shaged I have some spare think there from the 16v, pm me if you need any.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 20:27
very relevant point there Jarvis! pm'd you :)

And guys i understand its an old car etc, but put it this way if it was in a traffic jam the car behind wouldnt see, and certainly wouldnt breathe for long lol
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: fluffy1970 on 07 January 2011, 20:34
could be valve stem seals mine was the same ok driving but smokey in traffic changed seals problem solved
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 07 January 2011, 23:46
was the valve seals difficult to do mate?
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Wayne on 07 January 2011, 23:58
White smoke is not oil being burnt that is blue.

Can suggest hg issue but not always.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: fluffy1970 on 08 January 2011, 10:18
White smoke is not oil being burnt that is blue.


when i had similar problem i got the same advice blue smoke if burning oil.But to be honest it was more white with small tinge of blue.symptoms where if driving car no problem stuck in traffic lots of white/blue smoke changed valve stem seals sorted.there is plenty of advice on this  forum of how its done and i would recommend taking the head off lot easy
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Sam on 08 January 2011, 11:01
Mine lets out a big cloud of blue now and then, but thats purely because the turbo needs a re-build
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 08 January 2011, 11:29
Well ive done some searching about testing the injectors, but is there any way of testing them one at a time, without rigging up that whole system?
I dont think id know what i was doing with the relay and all of that milarki?
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: UKjarvis on 08 January 2011, 16:28
dont hold me to it but I  think you can remove the injectors and put in bottles, lift the air plate and start the car, they should start spraying but the engine will try and spark so be carful also would help if two people did it as one can turn the key and the other to look at the spray, again im not 100%.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Sam on 08 January 2011, 17:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSLcEwdX3ns
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 08 January 2011, 20:09
Cool, so actually turn the key to try and start it? Wont the starter motor turn the engine, cos in this vid theres no engine noise just injectors working?
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: mattkh on 08 January 2011, 21:53
Hi
The injection is mechanical. no need to turn the key, just lift the saucer.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Wayne on 08 January 2011, 22:25
Well ive done some searching about testing the injectors, but is there any way of testing them one at a time, without rigging up that whole system?
I dont think id know what i was doing with the relay and all of that milarki?

Pull the coil lead so it will not start, pick up a glass jar / tube, and one at a time get a friend to hold it in the glass jar / tube.

Next step is to lift the air flap for a max of 10 to 15 secs, then mark the fuel in the jar / tube, do the other 3 and see if they are around the same or you may find one is really low.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 09 January 2011, 10:29
aah right so its all controlled of the diaphram. Excellent advice guys. So battery still on, coil lead off the pack so no sparks, injectors out in glass jars, lift diaphram and observe?
I appreciate your advice guys its good to learn  :tongue:
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: UKjarvis on 09 January 2011, 10:50
Hi
The injection is mechanical. no need to turn the key, just lift the saucer.

every day's a school day.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Wayne on 09 January 2011, 14:25
aah right so its all controlled of the diaphram. Excellent advice guys. So battery still on, coil lead off the pack so no sparks, injectors out in glass jars, lift diaphram and observe?
I appreciate your advice guys its good to learn  :tongue:

You will still need to bridge the terminals on the fuel pump relay so the pump will run.
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: golfmk4owner on 10 January 2011, 22:35
ah right i dont know how to bridge the terminals??
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Sam on 10 January 2011, 23:51
ah right i dont know how to bridge the terminals??

Some conducting metal stuff
Title: Re: Missing K-Jet Adjustment Screw!
Post by: Wayne on 10 January 2011, 23:53
ah right i dont know how to bridge the terminals??

Some conducting metal stuff

Or a small link wire with flat terminals on the end.