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Title: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flc1962 on 06 January 2011, 11:50
Whats the Major differences between the GT TDI and the GTD apart from Price and the extra 30 BHP.
Title: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: p3asa on 06 January 2011, 12:28
Not a lot, styling, suspension, options, engine  :laugh:
The same can be said about the 1.4 petrol engine compared to the GTI   :grin:
Title: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: Steve30 on 06 January 2011, 12:30
Whats the Major differences between the GT TDI and the GTD apart from Price and the extra 30 BHP.


The GTD is the same spec as the GTI but diesel engine oh and better seats Jacari cloth  :grin:
Title: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flc1962 on 06 January 2011, 12:38
Don't like the seat fabrics for the GTi/GTD.

Am I right in saying they are both lower tahn the standard car 18mm or some thing, Spec and some little cosmetics changes, ie fog lights and that did not appeal to me, TBH my dealer advised GT TDi then get a Bluefin almost the same car but £2000 cheaper....
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: PenguinGTI on 06 January 2011, 12:57
In reference to mapping a GT Tdi and effectively ending up with a GTD then that is a bit mistaken.

Yes the GT Tdi may be 2k cheaper but you lose the spec and the styling.

More so if you whack a remap on a GTD then you can generally see a minimum of 200bhp.

If you buy a GT Tdi then you have a GT Tdi. If you remap it then you still have a GT Tdi.

Another way to think about it is how you would sell the car. If you bought a GT Tdi and remapped it, bought different alloys and maybe got the body kit then all you can advertise it as is an upgraded GT Tdi. It is not a GTD.

Of course if you are out to get a certain amount of power for as cheaply as possible then yes you could attain GTD power by taking a lesser powerful model and mapping it. Depends what is important to you.
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: p3asa on 06 January 2011, 13:08
Personally I feel that here are slight differences like seats, wheels, engine, exhaust.

Without these slight differences you could really say all Golfs are the same.

I thought the GTD was well specced and one of the reasons I went for it.
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 06 January 2011, 13:30
I've been looking at mk5 GT TDI's and most of them are missing what I would think are basic things on them like dual zone climate etc for a car that is meant to be "GT" spec. :undecided:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: p3asa on 06 January 2011, 13:35
No doesn't come with dual zone as that is an extra but then I can't understand VW's ideas when it comes to spec.

No cruise on its flagship models GTI / GTD yet standard on GT same with cornering lights!
You'd think the top of the range would have everything and more extra wise compared to the models below?
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 06 January 2011, 13:43
This is my gripe with VW.

Top of the line models and yet still having basic equipment that is standard on other manufacturers cars as options which you have to pay for on top of the already premium price. :angry:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flc1962 on 06 January 2011, 14:41
Its the MK 6 I have and I whish I had added the dual zone.

I added RDC510 with dynaudio, lux pack. Then added the bluefin. Think that was it. Could have gone for a different make for the same money but I'd never had a golf..
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: Exonian on 06 January 2011, 16:16
There are quite a few differences between the two specs Paul, obviously things like interior trim are very different, colour of headlining, shape of steering wheel, seat bolsters and other odds and ends of trim.
Outside there are the very obvious body differences in the bigger bumpers, half arsed side skirts (and LED tails if yours is a newer GTD) amongst other differences.
The GTD has the XDS electonic diff like the GTI apart from a few very early ones, the suspension spec is unique to the GTD and I'm not quite sure whether the GT has the same size (312mm) brakes either(?).
A friend of mine has a GT TDI company car in black with DSG (currently off the road following a crash by another driver in the snow) and it's a fine car, plenty quick enough for general road use, very comfy and just like the GTD/GTI/R or whatever, it still has that unique Golf feel about it.

At present you can get a very good deal on a GT TDI unlike the GTIs and GTDs so they look even better value for money.
As for the dual zone climate control; it's okay, had it in quite a few Golfs now but I reckon I still prefer the older style basic manual heater controls as cabin temperature is easier to regulate and the user is fully in control, not a processor(sp).
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: The Doc on 06 January 2011, 20:26
GTD over a GT TDI

XDS Differential
GTD wheels
GTD grille
GTD bumpers
GTD sill covers
GTD lowered suspension
GTD steering wheel
GTD seats
GTD speedo clocks
GTD exhaust trims
GTD led rear lights
Black head lining


Plus more that I don't remember off the top of my head  :smiley:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: p3asa on 06 January 2011, 21:00
GT TDI over a GTD

Cruise control
Cornering lights
Tyre pressure indicator

Much smaller list  :grin:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: The Doc on 06 January 2011, 21:16
Good point though  :wink:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flc1962 on 06 January 2011, 23:03
Is the Gt not also lower than the standard ?
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: p3asa on 07 January 2011, 00:22
Yeah it has sports suspension so lower than the other Golfs.
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: The Doc on 07 January 2011, 00:59
Lowered by 15mm
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flc1962 on 12 January 2011, 13:10
GT TDI over a GTD

Cruise control
Cornering lights
Tyre pressure indicator

Much smaller list  :grin:

I think better seat coulor choices, don't like checks in a car
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2011, 20:57
I think better seat coulor choices, don't like checks in a car

Have you seen them in real life?

I was actually going to ask the dealer if there where any other seat colours. Then I went and had a look at them in a car. They are actually quite nice.
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flyboy3 on 13 January 2011, 15:10
It depends whats important but for me I'm looking for economic performance and 0to60 in 8sec/138 top end and MPG at 50ish is a difference few petrol heads can match! :wink: :evil:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: flc1962 on 13 January 2011, 19:12
Yup, reminded me of an old travel rug  :evil:
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: losvre on 15 November 2011, 10:52
Hello guys,

Any other differences apart from style/look/trim?

I mean engine wise like turbos, ecu, conrods, intercooler and heads?

Also any big difference in suspension? i.e. is there something special or uprated schocks/springs? How they compare handling wise?

Cheers
Title: Re: Differences between GT TDI and GTD (except the 30bhp)??
Post by: dieseldunc on 15 November 2011, 18:56
Hello guys,

Any other differences apart from style/look/trim?

I mean engine wise like turbos, ecu, conrods, intercooler and heads?

Also any big difference in suspension? i.e. is there something special or uprated schocks/springs? How they compare handling wise?

Cheers

There's a couple of threads on here in relation to this; one which I kicked off yonks back, and the knowledgable responses (Doc - I think) stated that the turbo is indeed different. Not sure about any of the other bits you mention though..?