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Title: Production Figures
Post by: Len on 05 January 2011, 13:08
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900

Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 13:12
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900


Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?

What a waste of metal  :grin:

What was number 1, as I know vw made around 30 million beetles or something like that!?
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Len on 05 January 2011, 13:22
Way less waste than the Mk5 though! :rolleyes:

Yes the Beetle with 21,529,464
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: nige_s on 05 January 2011, 13:41
I guess the larger production run of the earlier cars is down to a longer production lifespan and less competitors in their class for consumers to choose from?
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 13:48
I would guess the mk1 figures include the citi Golf as well.

Would also be interesting to see how many are left these days.

no3 Lady Riva and n04 Fiat Uno wtf.
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: ash-lough on 05 January 2011, 14:04
Quick wikipedia search tells me only 291,497 mk2 Sciroccos were produced  :sad: (504,153 mk1's)
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: jv on 05 January 2011, 14:47
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900

Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?

Divide the figure by the time each model was produced for and it might.
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: nige_s on 05 January 2011, 14:56
Surely more Golfs have been produced compared to the Beetle if you add up those figures as one model it exceeds the 21.5 mil for the Beetle?!

There was more than one variation of the Beetle.
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 15:03
I would guess the mk1 figures include the citi Golf as well.

Would also be interesting to see how many are left these days.

no3 Lady Riva and n04 Fiat Uno wtf.

Not sure it does to be honest as that was never technically a mk1 golf.... however the citi only got to about 380,000 or si in numbers...

Surely more Golfs have been produced compared to the Beetle if you add up those figures as one model it exceeds the 21.5 mil for the Beetle?!

There was more than one variation of the Beetle.

I kind of get what you're saying and although the beetle did have various changes over the years the overall shape never really changed. where as a golf MK1 and golf mk6 are very different cars.
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: nige_s on 05 January 2011, 15:20
Mmmm but still the same model name, a Golf is a Golf whatever year and the same applies to a Beetle.  I doubt there is much that can be swapped over between a late 40's Split and a late 70s 1303.  Different engine, different suspension front and rear, different brake system different body panels, different glass, just to name the obvious stuff.
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 15:26
Mmmm but still the same model name, a Golf is a Golf whatever year and the same applies to a Beetle.  I doubt there is much that can be swapped over between a late 40's Split and a late 70s 1303.  Different engine, different suspension front and rear, different brake system different body panels, different glass, just to name the obvious stuff.

I think its a bit of fix then if you look at it this way then... Toyota Corolla at 35 million - The first car to achieve thirty million sales. ford escort over 20 million, fiat uno over 8 million.  and all these figures inluding the golf vary depending on where you look!
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: nige_s on 05 January 2011, 15:27
Yeah I seem to remember the Beetle production figure being surpassed a while ago but couldn't remember what or when.

Also forgot about the 'new' Beetle, should that be included on the production run or should it be in the Golf's figures :undecided:

Why is life so complicated  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 15:45
Yeah I seem to remember the Beetle production figure being surpassed a while ago but couldn't remember what or when.

Also forgot about the 'new' Beetle, should that be included on the production run or should it be in the Golf's figures :undecided:

Why is life so complicated  :grin:

It's info like this that should be easily found on manufacturers websites as surely they know the correct figures and we can decide for ourselves how we read them?
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Mitching on 05 January 2011, 16:47
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900

Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?
Does this mean the mk3 is the rarest out of the 4?  :shocked:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: shepgti on 05 January 2011, 16:51
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900

Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?
Does this mean the mk3 is the rarest out of the 4?  :shocked:

rarer than bugattis i heard :undecided:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 05 January 2011, 16:58
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900

Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?
Does this mean the mk3 is the rarest least popular out of the 4?  :shocked:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Mitching on 05 January 2011, 17:10
This is on MSN today, the Top 30 Cars Produced.
All 4 Golfs in there!

Mk 1 = 6,986,458

Mk 2 = 6,301,000

Mk 3 = 4,805,900

Mk 4 = 4,888,426

Wonder why the Mk 5 hasnt made it into the top 30?
Does this mean the mk3 is the rarest least popular out of the 4?  :shocked:

I was just sugar coating it  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 17:19

Yet somehow it once managed to claim the title of European Car Of The Year!  must be due to some of those classic special editions they released.  Who can forget the rare versions like these:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/VWGolfPinkFloydCloseup.jpg/450px-VWGolfPinkFloydCloseup.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/GolfRollingStones.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/GolfBonJoviLogo.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/VWGolfNewOrleans.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/VWGolfEuropeEdition.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/GolfAvenueLogo.jpg)

Pure class... plenty more where these came from.. at least another 6 or 7!  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: snifferdog on 05 January 2011, 17:24
Do you not think it was worth the 'European Car Of The Award'? What do you think should have claimed that title back in 1992?
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 17:33
Do you not think it was worth the 'European Car Of The Award'? What do you think should have claimed that title back in 1992?

(http://images.eurotuner.com/eventcoverage/eurp_0706_15_z+parts4vw_anniversary_party+volkswagen_corrado.jpg)

Please note that everything I say is utter sh*te and only posted for my own amusement... well most of it
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: snifferdog on 05 January 2011, 18:11
Good choice actually!!  :laugh: You're probably right. :evil: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Len on 06 January 2011, 13:23
I was surprised how many Passats there were (Mk5) or B5 and B5.5

Thought a Mondeo would be more
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 06 January 2011, 13:30
Please note that everything I say is utter sh*te

That would make a good sig!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 13:37
Please note that everything I say is utter sh*te

That would make a good sig!!  :grin:

Yeah but who's?  It would suit so many people.   :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Len on 06 January 2011, 13:41
Would suit me!  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 13:58
Would suit me!  :wink: :grin:

It's all yours if you want it then.  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Len on 06 January 2011, 14:21
Nah not really as I'm not in the habit of changing my sig to include silly quotes!  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 14:35
Nah not really as I'm not in the habit of changing my sig to include silly quotes!  :grin:

There's another one right there!
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Horney on 06 January 2011, 14:38
Rado was introduced in 89 so no good for car of the year in 92.

nick
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Horney on 06 January 2011, 14:43
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bestselling_automobiles
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 14:47
Rado was introduced in 89 so no good for car of the year in 92.

nick

I only posted that to keep the peace, it looked like I was about to upset a mk3 owner after my post before it.  I was orginally going to post up a 92 ford escort!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: tony_ack on 06 January 2011, 19:57
Rado was introduced in 89 so no good for car of the year in 92.

nick

Thought the VR6 was introduced in '92?
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Horney on 06 January 2011, 21:04
Car of the year is always about the whole range not just one model.

Nick
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 06 January 2011, 21:26
European car of the year 1992


1st.  VW Golf - 276 points
2nd. Opel Astra - 231 points
3rd.  Citroen zx - 213 points


 :rolleyes: tough competition.

Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 22:22
European car of the year 1992


1st.  VW Golf - 276 points
2nd. Opel Astra - 231 points
3rd.  Citroen zx - 213 points


 :rolleyes: tough competition.



That did well!
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: snifferdog on 06 January 2011, 22:30
Rado was introduced in 89 so no good for car of the year in 92.

nick

I only posted that to keep the peace, it looked like I was about to upset a sensitive mk3 owner after my post before it.  I was orginally going to post up a 92 ford escort!  :laugh:
Fixed it. :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 22:58
Rado was introduced in 89 so no good for car of the year in 92.

nick

I only posted that to keep the peace, it looked like I was about to upset a sensitive mk3 owner after my post before it.  I was orginally going to post up a 92 ford escort!  :laugh:
Fixed it. :wink: :grin:


No need.... I already knew that.  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Wayne on 06 January 2011, 23:17
European car of the year 1992


1st.  VW Golf - 276 points
2nd. Opel Astra - 231 points
3rd.  Citroen zx - 213 points


 :rolleyes: tough competition.

I had a Citroen ZX TD once, much better than the astra.  :smiley:


Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Jimp on 06 January 2011, 23:37
After some reading in other sections of vortex it's kinda funny how in the UK the mk3 gets all the hate but over there the mk4 gets all the hate. Time to go find the part of the world that hates the mk2 and the mk5  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 00:29
European car of the year 1992


1st.  VW Golf - 276 points
2nd. Opel Astra - 231 points
3rd.  Citroen zx - 213 points


 :rolleyes: tough competition.

I had a Citroen ZX TD once, much better than the astra.  :smiley:


They got clever with it once, they even did a model with active rear wheel steering IIRC.

After some reading in other sections of vortex it's kinda funny how in the UK the mk3 gets all the hate but over there the mk4 gets all the hate. Time to go find the part of the world that hates the mk2 and the mk5  :grin:

Ha, good luck with that, especially with the mk2.  :grin:
Title: Re: Production Figures
Post by: Jimp on 07 January 2011, 16:49
I hear Thailand isn't big on mk2s  :grin: