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Title: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 05 January 2011, 07:09
Morning all,

Santa wasn't that great to me this year (maybe I was bad or something :angry: ), so I'm going to have to buy one of these DA's out of my own pocket.

My question is, why is the Meg's DA more expensive then the Kestrel? Is there that much of a difference? Is it worth spending the extra monies on the Megs?

Opinions welcome... and any sites that might be doing good deals at the moment!

Cheers

Sav

Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: maisy on 05 January 2011, 07:15
i have a das6 and it rocks  :wink: i dont know the difference my friend has a megs but i think it feels like it vibrates more  :undecided: could just be me.

the forum sponsor waxamomo is a nice bloke sent me free sweets too  :laugh: i think if you use the search function ^^^^^^ it will tied you over till someone with more knowledge wakes up  :grin:
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: new to vw on 05 January 2011, 08:01
I havent tried either of the 2 models you mention, however i do use a PORTER CABLE DA polisher. I cant fault it, it as never let me down...The only down side to it was the price at nearly £140 from the states and you need to use a 110v site transformer....BUT it is a great piece of kit :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 05 January 2011, 08:39
Cheers Maisy, I've done a search but i cant find anything conclusive, looks like its all down to personal experience!

I messaged Chris yesterday because they had the Megs on offer with a couple compounds but its out of stock at the mo so was wondering when they would have it again.

I get the feeling this is going to be one of those ones where I just have to take the plunge and hope for the best!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: Guy on 05 January 2011, 09:58
sorry but I wouldn't get meguiars again if I was paid to... mine gave up after not that many hours use... (maybe 5 or 6 cars)

If I were getting a DA then I would opt for the DAS-6 PRO - note the PRO bit on the end... it is a far superior machine to the G220 or any other DA I have used..

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html)
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 05 January 2011, 09:59
Just to make things even more complicated, I've been looking on detailingworld and there are a lot of pluses for the Silverline...
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 05 January 2011, 10:05
Hey Guy, thanks for your thoughts on the Megs... I've seen the DAS-6 pro one around, but just can't stomach spending £170 on the kits! I would need to get the compounds as well as the DA.


sorry but I wouldn't get meguiars again if I was paid to... mine gave up after not that many hours use... (maybe 5 or 6 cars)

If I were getting a DA then I would opt for the DAS-6 PRO - note the PRO bit on the end... it is a far superior machine to the G220 or any other DA I have used..

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html)

Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: maisy on 05 January 2011, 13:37
Just to make things even more complicated, I've been looking on detailingworld and there are a lot of pluses for the Silverline...

i think the sliverline is the bottom end of the market, never used one so dont let that influence you  :wink:

i've had my das6 for over 18 months now gets used a lot i do my camper, my mk2 golf regularly, i use sonex pads have used megs pads before too i prefer the sonex myself. the compounds seem expensive but last a long time as you only use a small amount at a time.

when i got my camper a few months ago it was dull and swirly its 42 years old everybody said i spent 4 days cleaning it now it mint.  :smug:

Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: musicman87 on 05 January 2011, 17:43
I'm having the same dilemma, im looking at this kit as i've heard the menz polishes are excellent for hard paint like VW's:

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/das-6-pro-sonus-and-menzerna-kit/prod_677.html - It seems a lot of good stuff for the money!

However, i do have an allegiance to Waxamomo as Chris' service is spot on and as much as im sure CYC is too, i'd like to give Waxamomo my order... That sort of means it will be a G220, and Chris doesn't currently sell the menz polishes. Which of his stuff is as good as, if not better than the menz?

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: Guy on 05 January 2011, 17:51
Hey Guy, thanks for your thoughts on the Megs... I've seen the DAS-6 pro one around, but just can't stomach spending £170 on the kits! I would need to get the compounds as well as the DA.


sorry but I wouldn't get meguiars again if I was paid to... mine gave up after not that many hours use... (maybe 5 or 6 cars)

If I were getting a DA then I would opt for the DAS-6 PRO - note the PRO bit on the end... it is a far superior machine to the G220 or any other DA I have used..

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html)


if you're going to do it then do it properly... 3M pads and polishes and the DAS-6 PRO

buy cheap.. buy twice
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 06 January 2011, 06:45
"buy cheap.. buy twice" - I hate that saying... mainly because its so true.

Hey Guy, thanks for your thoughts on the Megs... I've seen the DAS-6 pro one around, but just can't stomach spending £170 on the kits! I would need to get the compounds as well as the DA.


sorry but I wouldn't get meguiars again if I was paid to... mine gave up after not that many hours use... (maybe 5 or 6 cars)

If I were getting a DA then I would opt for the DAS-6 PRO - note the PRO bit on the end... it is a far superior machine to the G220 or any other DA I have used..

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/cat_81.html)


if you're going to do it then do it properly... 3M pads and polishes and the DAS-6 PRO

buy cheap.. buy twice
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: chrismorby on 06 January 2011, 07:50
just to throw a spanner in the works. what about Dodo juice spin doctor? not that i know alot but its got a lcd and its only 2kg? .2 lighter than the others?
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 06 January 2011, 08:08
Funnily enough, after taking some advice from Chris at Waxamomo I've just put in an order for the Buff Daddy, with the Megs W9207 pads.

I've got some Lime Prime and Megs Wax at home already.

Next day delivery... what do you think my weekend will consist of?  :laugh:



just to throw a spanner in the works. what about Dodo juice spin doctor? not that i know alot but its got a lcd and its only 2kg? .2 lighter than the others?
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: savvasa on 07 January 2011, 16:15
Just wanted to say thanks to Chris from Waxamomo.

Dodo DA and pads ordered yesterday, delivered today... with some yummy sweets as well.

Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: waxamomo on 07 January 2011, 16:17
Thanks again for the order.

I will drop you a quick e-mail now, I meant to do it last night  :smiley:
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: F17BAD on 09 January 2011, 20:00
man up and get a rotary haha

iv got a Dodo Juice spin doctor, not for the kids, but is a WICKED bit of kit, im using it with Dodos Orange and red pads and with, Megs #80 and megs #83

Im more than happy with this bit of kit  :cool:
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: chrismorby on 11 January 2011, 16:35
Kels i have the same rotarty, pads and chemicals. any tips as im a newbie
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:20
Kels i have the same rotarty, pads and chemicals. any tips as im a newbie

Just go steady LOL, what i did to start with was mask up all door edges and swage lines (as these bits are prone to strike through - burning toap coat) 

Here is the order in which i run mine, bear in mind im on a solid black not top coated paint - the hardest paint to do as it can easy show hologramming (these are sort of machine polish marks show up in sunlights, like loads of tiny scratches which is from not working in the compoud enough)


anyhow, start with your red pad first and theb speed glaze #80

1 PASS AT 1000 RPM
2 PASSES AT 1200 RPM
4 PASSES AT 1500 RPM
4 PASSES AT 1800 RPM
4 PASSES AT 1500 RPM
2 PASSES AT 1200 RPM
1 PASS AT 100O RPM

Work in 12" square sections at a time

Use a little bit of pressure but let the machine do the work, if the marks are still their or u need more cut do same as above with orange pad and the #83


It is a awesome bit of kit im loving mine
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: chrismorby on 11 January 2011, 20:23
good man, cheers for that. waiting till the weekend to get a front wing in the same paint colour as mine to practise on first (LC9Z - Black Magic Pearl) what do u mean exactly by door edges?
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 20:31
the very edges round the sides etc, these bits can be damaged easy, go real light and fast over these bits, also watch the swage lines - the bits that are like folds down the lenght of the car in the middle of the doors, where the metal has that fold, these bits are also pressure points when using rotarys, i do above this fold first, 4" pad fits perfect between rubber of window and the swage line and i then do below the line after, and a quick light pass over the swage line between but dont put too much pressure on these bits, hope that makes sense
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: chrismorby on 11 January 2011, 20:41
thats perfect cheers mate. just gotta wait for some better weather now¬
Title: Re: Kestrel DAS-6 or Meguiar's G220?
Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 20:53
Iv been doing panel at a time, got some fantastic results