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Title: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 00:00
my vr6 standard
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf2.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/golf5.jpg)

Thought I should post up pics of my car the way i bought it.
The car now has had a few changes since these pics.  stripped out the dashboard and all interior trim. Central locking and leccy windows are next to go. I also have some bits due to arrive shortly from Demon Tweeks and my Polycarbonate windows have arrived.

Anyway, here we go...

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/2aedafb2.jpg)
tidyed up the unused wires a bit
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/2aedafb2.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/89b0ad3b.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/photo4-2.jpg)


 
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 00:02
Hooray! at last.. now keep this clean people.  And that includes you Mr G  :wink:
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Post by: tech1889 on 05 January 2011, 00:04
woooooooooo lovely get it going mate..
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Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 00:13
Good luck :afro:
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Post by: Dmonday on 05 January 2011, 00:17
Sweet, i like the wheels in white. What plans have you got for it then?

Dan
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Post by: Peej1981 on 05 January 2011, 08:58
Thats better we are now in the right section, have you got any of you new toys yet????
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 05 January 2011, 09:12
Now i can actually start to enjoy this thread :afro:
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 09:22
yea ive ordered up a few goodies, poly windows arrived yesterday, omp wheel and boss, fire extinguisher x2, disc's pads and calipers im still looking into. suspensition im gonna leave for the mo as it has coilovers on it already, so ill see how they perform on the track. roll cage is a choice of these two http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Car_Preparation/Roll_Cages/Sparco_Multi_Point_Bolt_In_Competition_Roll_Cage/1893/0/98128/44800
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Car_Preparation/Roll_Cages/OMP_Bolt_In_Competition_Roll_Cage/1893/0/98647/44800

ive just ordered a dremel and a 4inch grinder so ill tackle the windows this weekend and cut back the inner doors and get rid of mech and motors
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Post by: Peej1981 on 05 January 2011, 09:40
Looks like you are going to be a busy boy this weekend then  :grin:, my mate said that he would do the roll cage but he is proper busy at the mo and so will struggle to fit it in until next month sometime, prob better to buy one that you have found already. The steering wheel will be easy enough to do, where are you putting the fire extingguishers???
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Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 09:48

ive just ordered a dremel and a 4inch grinder so ill tackle the windows this weekend and cut back the inner doors and get rid of mech and motors


I would leave them as they are to be honest, mechs and motors will be a lot of weight saved, you could lose strength cutting away metal.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 10:00
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/door.jpg) this is what i was thinking ! do you not advise it wayne !

yea gonna get out there this weekend and try and do as much as i can, thought about getting a roll cage made, up but it will be easyer to just buy one and bolt it in and my mate over the rd will weld it in for me, fire extinguishers maybe one in the passenger footwell and one in the back or both on the floor infront of each seat ?
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Post by: robz on 05 January 2011, 10:04
surely if you have a cage properly fitted then is there need to worry...?
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Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 10:09
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/door.jpg) this is what i was thinking ! do you not advise it wayne !

yea gonna get out there this weekend and try and do as much as i can, thought about getting a roll cage made, up but it will be easyer to just buy one and bolt it in and my mate over the rd will weld it in for me, fire extinguishers maybe one in the passenger footwell and one in the back or both on the floor infront of each seat ?

Would not be my choice, it would leave some strength in the doors if left, be carefull with making a cage due to the regs that may cover it.

surely if you have a cage properly fitted then is there need to worry...?

Yes and no, I would still leave them in, also makes it easier if you ever want to conver back.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 10:15
ok,  i was only really gonna cut them out more so for looks as i wont be loosing that much weight by getting rid, anyway im gonna shut up now and crack on .........
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Post by: robz on 05 January 2011, 10:16
true i suppose, but i think hes past that point now :D
cant be that much weight to save from a few struts of metal too...?
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Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 10:19
No worries just trying to help.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 10:20
yea i think im gonna leave them in wayne, lot of agg to loose a little bit of weight and weeken the car.
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Post by: maisy on 05 January 2011, 10:26
yea i think im gonna leave them in wayne, lot of agg to loose a little bit of weight and weeken the car.

yeah i think you've made the right choice, safety needs to be a huge feature if you're gonna throw yourself around a track   :wink: are you going to keep it road legal? or trailer it?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 10:27
either or ? not sure yet ! probly keep it rd legal tho just for the ease of it
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Post by: maisy on 05 January 2011, 10:38
yeah drive it to and around the ring   :evil:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 January 2011, 10:49
Yeah i'd strip the doors of window motors and central locking etc but i'd leave the frames alone, might end up slamming your door one day and buckling it.  feck all weight to be saved anyway and if you want them to look tidier instead, prehaps consider some lightweight door cards.  Carbon Fibre door card trims are from around £115 a pair? or your could get some ally plates for far less depeneding on what you want to spend.

http://www.performance-trim.com/product.php?product_id=46  (http://www.performance-trim.com/product.php?product_id=46)
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Post by: dom on 05 January 2011, 11:31
Much better thread, keep it clean and simple like this and it'll be a good thread to watch :afro:

You seem to be going about things the right way now so the best of luck to you, and keep the updates coming  :cool:
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Post by: JC on 05 January 2011, 11:33
Yeah i'd strip the doors of window motors and central locking etc but i'd leave the frames alone, might end up slamming your door one day and buckling it.  feck all weight to be saved anyway and if you want them to look tidier instead, prehaps consider some lightweight door cards.  Carbon Fibre door card trims are from around £115 a pair? or your could get some ally plates for far less depeneding on what you want to spend.

http://www.performance-trim.com/product.php?product_id=46  (http://www.performance-trim.com/product.php?product_id=46)

or sheets of thin black foam, very lightweight but cover up all the metalwork . sharp edges  :wink:
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Post by: Len on 05 January 2011, 11:36
Are doorcards really that heavy?
Try going on a diet instead! :rolleyes:

 :laugh:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 05 January 2011, 14:07
or sheets of thin black foam, very lightweight but cover up all the metalwork . sharp edges  :wink:

This - for about £20 and a few Stanley blades.

Don't cage it unless you have deep enough pockets for buckets and harnesses, otherwise you're going to smash your head open on the steel bars in your interior if you have an off.

Side-impact protection bars in the G3 are worth losing if you're weight-saving, as they're knocking on 10kg alone.

You should relocate the battery and washer bottle to the rear of the car to try and help with the weight distribution.

I hope you've re-secured the controls from the dash properly - last thing you want is them coming loose and firing about the cabin.  If it were me I'd put the dash back in, stripped of any soundproofing you can.  They don't weigh very much and it's useful having mounts for your switches etc all there, ready made.
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 14:12
old steering wheel
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/3ad173e8.jpg)
now gone to make way for the new one
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/a679e48f.jpg)
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/7a23ace0.jpg)
new wheel on and a bit of wire tidying
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/e1eb6344.jpg)
poly windows now out the box quite pleased with them so lookk forward to fitting them in on the weekend

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/958e4a85.jpg)
this is the guy i bought them from if anyone is interested
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/e33fa99b.jpg)
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Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 14:14
Steering wheel looks good, might be worth doing something with the dash bar or as DH said refit the dash maybe.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 14:20
i do have the dash still but dont fancy putting it back in, i was gonna make up a bracket for the clocks  heater dials and the head light switch ! i like the look with out the dash,need to spend a day out there sorting the wires properly and making the brackets, ive got some primer and grey spray paint coming so thought i might rub down and spray the inside ?
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Post by: Wayne on 05 January 2011, 14:22
i do have the dash still but dont fancy putting it back in, i was gonna make up a bracket for the clocks  heater dials and the head light switch ! i like the look with out the dash,need to spend a day out there sorting the wires properly and making the brackets, ive got some primer and grey spray paint coming so thought i might rub down and spray the inside ?

Sounds good, looking forward to the updates.  :smiley:
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Post by: robz on 05 January 2011, 14:35
liking it, not a fan of the wheel though!!
out of interest... what are the weight differences between the windows??
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 14:47
havent weighed them yet, but to be fair i dont think there is a great weight difference in the windows themselfs ! at a guess i would say the poly (door) windows weigh approx 3-4kg i would imagine the stock window would be slightly more maybe 5-6kg ? ill let you kno exactly on the weekend !
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Post by: lewis1641 on 05 January 2011, 14:55
gave up on the other thread, good to see its all calm in here.

steering wheels looks usefull.

as for the poly windows, they are about half the weight of glass. not only that but they look cool (untill they get scratched to buggery)

If you want some cheap weight saving, chip away at all the sound deadening in the car and get underneath it and scrape all the crud off the pan and out of the arches
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 05 January 2011, 15:02
yea im on it lewis sorted the back out with the old heatgun !
this is what i want the inside shell to look like
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/dash1.jpg)
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Post by: lewis1641 on 05 January 2011, 15:47
 :cool:
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Post by: dom on 05 January 2011, 19:42
yea im on it lewis sorted the back out with the old heatgun !
this is what i want the inside shell to look like
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/dash1.jpg)

It'll look seriously good if you can get it to that standard :afro:

It might be worth getting something like this (or similar) to tidy up the wiring inside the cabin:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10M-CABLE-WIRE-BINDING-TIDY-SPIRAL-WRAP-HIDE-3-10MM-/270641735125?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingTools_Accessories_SM&hash=item3f038125d5#ht_1277wt_905 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10M-CABLE-WIRE-BINDING-TIDY-SPIRAL-WRAP-HIDE-3-10MM-/270641735125?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingTools_Accessories_SM&hash=item3f038125d5#ht_1277wt_905)
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Post by: Alec on 05 January 2011, 21:16
Thought about a flocked dash? Would look so much tidier and stop any annoying reflections on the screen, could stick all important oil pressure gauge and all that kinda thing where the stereo usually goes that way.
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Post by: stow1985 on 05 January 2011, 23:28
Much better,

love the steering wheel and i think a flocked dash would look the tits behind that wheel!

Glass is quiet heavy so should make a difference!

keep it up  :smiley:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 00:08
Thought about a flocked dash? Would look so much tidier and stop any annoying reflections on the screen, could stick all important oil pressure gauge and all that kinda thing where the stereo usually goes that way.

love the flocked dash look, but i think at this stage its an unesseary expence, the money could be better spent on something else ie a (strut brace) joke !!!!!

but on a serious note i do like the flocked dash look and it will deffenitly be a thought in the futre.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 18:57
bit of rubbing down and spraying
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back out in the morning for a bit more !
any ideas what colour to spray the inside ? i was thinking either grey are silver ?
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Post by: lewis1641 on 06 January 2011, 19:05
White is always good.
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Post by: lemski on 06 January 2011, 19:36
White is always good.
yeh white is cool, this thread is alot better i like the progress thats been made
liam
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 19:41
white was my first choice of colour but i thought spraying white with a can and no oven is not gonna be the best of jobs as white will show up the imperfections. still im liking white ! got quite a bit of rubbing down to do then the primer so got a while yet to choose.
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Post by: lemski on 06 January 2011, 19:43
if it was me i would save all that paint and just have it bare metal. but i still say white. how much did your windows cost?
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 06 January 2011, 19:55
back to bare metal and then a light dusting of a dull paint which won't reflect (white), or bake (black).

Let's face it when you weld the cage in it's going to take the paint off around the mounting points anyway.
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Post by: Wayne on 06 January 2011, 19:57
Would be better to go for matt black
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 20:00
if it was me i would save all that paint and just have it bare metal. but i still say white. how much did your windows cost?

im not paying for the paint ! its curtesey of halfrauds via the locall scalywags on the estate....

windows cost me £200 in total with all the fixings/bonding ! quite pleased with them the guy done a blinding job making them.....
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 20:03
ok so we have white ? black ? grey ? silver ? ill go with the majority vote ?
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Post by: richandhazel on 06 January 2011, 20:06
Are doorcards really that heavy?
Try going on a diet instead! :rolleyes:

 :laugh:

That coming from you Len :shocked:

Good thread this, keep the updates coming :wink:
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Post by: Dmonday on 06 January 2011, 20:07
I think matt black would be best :) will be sweet once you get the windows and stuff in, glad to see progress.

Dan
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 20:14
ive just bought these buckets picking them up in the morning
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/mmaattyyg/CBo5BcgBWkKGrHqNlkEz2Yvd4LBNIgup1uy_12.jpg)

if its only me driving the car do i really need the sliders for them ?
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Post by: richandhazel on 06 January 2011, 20:14
I agree matt black will work and still be in rough keeping with the exterior. Whether that really matters or not I don't know but it will be a good choice to not show up imperfections.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 20:21
I agree matt black will work and still be in rough keeping with the exterior. Whether that really matters or not I don't know but it will be a good choice to not show up imperfections.


its deffenitly looking like matt black !
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 January 2011, 20:30
Matte black will look good but if you track on a nice sunny day you're going to get hot in there!....

Spraying your car with stolen goods *tut*

Seats look good, are the harnesses part of the purchase?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 20:36
Matte black will look good but if you track on a nice sunny day you're going to get hot in there!....

Spraying your car with stolen goods *tut*

Seats look good, are the harnesses part of the purchase?

yea if its hot i can always take my mmaattyyg race suit off lol

yea the harnesses come with them, just need to get subframes made or buy them ! how far do these seats need to be lifted up off the floor of the car ?
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Post by: richandhazel on 06 January 2011, 20:38
if its only me driving the car do i really need the sliders for them ?

Wouldn't have thought so.......once bolted in the right place for you then they shouldn't need to move :undecided: Probably more secure too.
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 January 2011, 20:44
I might come down on the 29th depending if I'm working or not, as so far I been doing some serious double time, 7days on off and working whilst on holiday, see how the dates align closer to the time, whats the charge for viewing, and 140 seems steep as I know my friend did the brands hatch track with a racing driver to teach, then had a go himself followed by a little session in his vr6 mk3 and I think he said that was just over the 100 mark?
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Post by: stow1985 on 06 January 2011, 22:05
Seast look sweet as....

i would go for matt black everytime, i used to spray engine bays, boots, foot wells and innerwheel archs of kit cars and id always use matt black  :wink:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 23:25
the picture ive taken of the boot area ! there is a metal frame that the rear seat sits on, can this bit cut away without causing any problems / weekeness ?
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Post by: Wayne on 06 January 2011, 23:31
the picture ive taken of the boot area ! there is a metal frame that the rear seat sits on, can this bit cut away without causing any problems / weekeness ?

Not really, it is part of the shell, better left in.  :smiley:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 06 January 2011, 23:32
I might come down on the 29th depending if I'm working or not, as so far I been doing some serious double time, 7days on off and working whilst on holiday, see how the dates align closer to the time, whats the charge for viewing, and 140 seems steep as I know my friend did the brands hatch track with a racing driver to teach, then had a go himself followed by a little session in his vr6 mk3 and I think he said that was just over the 100 mark?

its on a sataday ! i dont think they charge to watch, i normaly just drive straight in, if they do stop you just tell them your here for the track day !
yea £140 is a bit steep as the weather ant all that good in january.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 00:27
does a roll cage for a vw golf mk3 vr6 3 door fit a 5 door ?
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 00:35
does a roll cage for a vw golf mk3 vr6 3 door fit a 5 door ?

I'm almost certain it does... depending on the type of cage it only becomes an issue if you want decent access to the rear via the back doors.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 00:59
does a roll cage for a vw golf mk3 vr6 3 door fit a 5 door ?

I'm almost certain it does... depending on the type of cage it only becomes an issue if you want decent access to the rear via the back doors.

can anyone else verify this as i dont want to go and spend £500 - £700 and it doesnt fit ! if it helps or makes a difference i dont want to use the rear doors at all.....
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 01:01
does a roll cage for a vw golf mk3 vr6 3 door fit a 5 door ?

I'm almost certain it does... depending on the type of cage it only becomes an issue if you want decent access to the rear via the back doors.

can anyone else verify this as i dont want to go and spend £500 - £700 and it doesnt fit ! if it helps or makes a difference i dont want to use the rear doors at all.....

Where are you buying from and what type?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 01:07
does a roll cage for a vw golf mk3 vr6 3 door fit a 5 door ?

I'm almost certain it does... depending on the type of cage it only becomes an issue if you want decent access to the rear via the back doors.

can anyone else verify this as i dont want to go and spend £500 - £700 and it doesnt fit ! if it helps or makes a difference i dont want to use the rear doors at all.....

Where are you buying from and what type?

this is what i was looking at ! have they made a mistake with the price or is it just a sh!t cage ? it says it for a 3 door tho ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AB-105P-156-OMP-ROLL-CAGE-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-GTi-MK3-91-98-/220720907811?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3363fdc623
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Post by: Wayne on 07 January 2011, 08:47
does a roll cage for a vw golf mk3 vr6 3 door fit a 5 door ?

I'm almost certain it does... depending on the type of cage it only becomes an issue if you want decent access to the rear via the back doors.

can anyone else verify this as i dont want to go and spend £500 - £700 and it doesnt fit ! if it helps or makes a difference i dont want to use the rear doors at all.....

Where are you buying from and what type?

this is what i was looking at ! have they made a mistake with the price or is it just a sh!t cage ? it says it for a 3 door tho ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AB-105P-156-OMP-ROLL-CAGE-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-GTi-MK3-91-98-/220720907811?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3363fdc623

It will fit fine but one small issue is that the center bars will not be in line with the pillars, when they really should be for strength reasons.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 08:59
So what do u reckon Wayne ? Could I get it and put some extra supports in after the cage is in !
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 January 2011, 09:24
Those seats look shat and the harnesses look utter shat.

They're base-mount, so won't be proper shell seats and unless there's a hole for the crutch strap you're going to be limited to 4-point harnesses.

A 6-point cage won't have harness bars, so you'll still have a lot of work to get a harness bar welded into the cage.

I'd go for a grey/silver interior - it'll be hto as hell in a matt black interior in the summer and you only have four tiny little holes in the driver's window.

 :rolleyes:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 15:29
more rubbing down and spraying !
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old bit of welding
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mech and motor stripped out


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managed to get one window in
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Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: Wayne on 07 January 2011, 15:34
Excellent progress.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 15:45
Excellent progress.

the inside body is still rough but i just wanted to get a lick of paint onit, makes me feel like something is getting done, loads more rubing down back and front to do
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 15:47
Poor car, already had a couple of plates in the floor... where's the rust come from on the drivers side, was it damp when you ripped the carpet out?

good going on getting the sound proofing up, that stuff can be a b1tch.

Nice window, how did it feel weight wise in comparison to the glass?... one problem though, how are you going to get your maccy D's drive through in it now!?  :grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 15:50
Those seats look shat and the harnesses look utter shat.

They're base-mount, so won't be proper shell seats and unless there's a hole for the crutch strap you're going to be limited to 4-point harnesses.

A 6-point cage won't have harness bars, so you'll still have a lot of work to get a harness bar welded into the cage.

I'd go for a grey/silver interior - it'll be hto as hell in a matt black interior in the summer and you only have four tiny little holes in the driver's window.

 :rolleyes:

cheers dh ! lol ive got the harnesses with them (4 point) ! some mixed opinions on the colour ! im gonna need to put an extra support bar in anyway if i get the 3 door roll cage ?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 15:57
Poor car, already had a couple of plates in the floor... where's the rust come from on the drivers side, was it damp when you ripped the carpet out?

good going on getting the sound proofing up, that stuff can be a b1tch.

Nice window, how did it feel weight wise in comparison to the glass?... one problem though, how are you going to get your maccy D's drive through in it now!?  :grin:

what 1992 car hasn't had a bit of welding done to it ? the carpet was dry when i ripped it out, and the rubber grumets were all good so must have been sorted before i got it.
you ant wrong about getting that sound proofing up its like tar, and f**king hard to get up. weight wise i would say the poly was half the weight, or slightly lighter......  and as for the maccy d's im f**ked ! no more drive bys unless its with a gun .....
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 16:16
Poor car, already had a couple of plates in the floor... where's the rust come from on the drivers side, was it damp when you ripped the carpet out?

good going on getting the sound proofing up, that stuff can be a b1tch.

Nice window, how did it feel weight wise in comparison to the glass?... one problem though, how are you going to get your maccy D's drive through in it now!?  :grin:

what 1992 car hasn't had a bit of welding done to it ? the carpet was dry when i ripped it out, and the rubber grumets were all good so must have been sorted before i got it.
you ant wrong about getting that sound proofing up its like tar, and f**king hard to get up. weight wise i would say the poly was half the weight, or slightly lighter......  and as for the maccy d's im f**ked ! no more drive bys unless its with a gun .....

Plenty of cars, mines a good example of a solid floor, 1983, no welding no rust.  :cool:

I might be tempted by the poly one day then!  :cool:

Ah well looks like if you want Maccys for breakfast on the way to the track you're just going to have to get off your ass and go in and get it yourself.  :grin:
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Post by: stow1985 on 07 January 2011, 16:19
the inside is starting to look good now, like the poly window!
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 16:43
the inside is starting to look good now, like the poly window!
but looked better with the leathers in it.   :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 16:47
Haha
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Post by: tech1889 on 07 January 2011, 18:54
my J reg hasnt had welding that i know of  :nerd:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 19:40
Come on let's not get petty, it's got two small plates welded in no big deal ! 
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Post by: golf-sib on 07 January 2011, 19:48
Crayford maccy dee will deliver it to your car in there bays if you ask, you should race the r8 thats sometimes down there (not sure why there's a r8 in Crayford... but yea)   :smiley:

Oh yea remember if your mates drop a chip, slap them and tell them to eat it of throw it out as that chip weight may cost you round a corner  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 January 2011, 19:57
Come on let's not get petty, it's got two small plates welded in no big deal ! 

Yeah i know, better that than finding something you shave to deal with.
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Post by: Peej1981 on 07 January 2011, 20:17
Only just got cought up with this build and goot to say i am very impressed mate, keep up the good work, defo heading in the rite direction now. O yeah and luv the steering wheel mate, mmm has got me thinking about my wheel now.  :grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 07 January 2011, 20:42
Crayford maccy dee will deliver it to your car in there bays if you ask, you should race the r8 thats sometimes down there (not sure why there's a r8 in Crayford... but yea)   :smiley:

Oh yea remember if your mates drop a chip, slap them and tell them to eat it of throw it out as that chip weight may cost you round a corner  :grin:

Lol nutter
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 08 January 2011, 00:08
my J reg hasnt had welding that i know of  :nerd:

pull the carpet up and double check !!!!  :wink:
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: mmaattyyg on 08 January 2011, 00:09
Only just got cought up with this build and goot to say i am very impressed mate, keep up the good work, defo heading in the rite direction now. O yeah and luv the steering wheel mate, mmm has got me thinking about my wheel now.  :grin:

alot of people dont like the d - shape wheel, i think its the nuts ! different :wink:
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: Peej1981 on 08 January 2011, 08:47
Only just got cought up with this build and goot to say i am very impressed mate, keep up the good work, defo heading in the rite direction now. O yeah and luv the steering wheel mate, mmm has got me thinking about my wheel now.  :grin:

alot of people dont like the d - shape wheel, i think its the nuts ! different :wink:

Well that is what counts.  :grin: Have you driven it now it is full stripped down? Do you notice a big difference?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 08 January 2011, 10:49
Only just got cought up with this build and goot to say i am very impressed mate, keep up the good work, defo heading in the rite direction now. O yeah and luv the steering wheel mate, mmm has got me thinking about my wheel now.  :grin:

alot of people dont like the d - shape wheel, i think its the nuts ! different :wink:

Well that is what counts.  :grin: Have you driven it now it is full stripped down? Do you notice a big difference?


yea defenitly notice the weight loss, feels alot more nimble and and obviously a little quicker, well worth stripping in my opinion, i have filled up a ton bag with all the sh!t ive taken out of the car and i can bearly lift the bag up ! id like to put the bag on a set of scales to check the weight loss.........
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: mmaattyyg on 08 January 2011, 17:48
rear door (poly) windows fitted today ! if anyone tells you there easy to fit there lieing ! getting out the old windows and mechs with out a switch is not easy ! the front windows were easy enough, didnt have the window switches so just touched two wires together to lower the window to get to the vice bracket that holds the window to the mech, tried the same method with the back windows but it was having nun of it, so i couldnt lower the windows,  i cut the inner door away and and pulled the mech and motor down off the window, once metal,motor and mech was out the way the window is then pulled down into the door out of the runners on either side then back up (not in the runners) then leaned inside the door frame and she was out ,not a hard job to do but if its the first time youve tackled this it will be tricky and you probly wont know the best way to get the window,mech,motor out....
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Post by: Wayne on 08 January 2011, 22:06
rear door (poly) windows fitted today ! if anyone tells you there easy to fit there lieing ! getting out the old windows and mechs with out a switch is not easy ! the front windows were easy enough, didnt have the window switches so just touched two wires together to lower the window to get to the vice bracket that holds the window to the mech, tried the same method with the back windows but it was having nun of it, so i couldnt lower the windows,  i cut the inner door away and and pulled the mech and motor down off the window, once metal,motor and mech was out the way the window is then pulled down into the door out of the runners on either side then back up (not in the runners) then leaned inside the door frame and she was out ,not a hard job to do but if its the first time youve tackled this it will be tricky and you probly wont know the best way to get the window,mech,motor out....

Easy way is to lower the window and then unbolt the quater light.
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: mmaattyyg on 08 January 2011, 22:42
rear door (poly) windows fitted today ! if anyone tells you there easy to fit there lieing ! getting out the old windows and mechs with out a switch is not easy ! the front windows were easy enough, didnt have the window switches so just touched two wires together to lower the window to get to the vice bracket that holds the window to the mech, tried the same method with the back windows but it was having nun of it, so i couldnt lower the windows,  i cut the inner door away and and pulled the mech and motor down off the window, once metal,motor and mech was out the way the window is then pulled down into the door out of the runners on either side then back up (not in the runners) then leaned inside the door frame and she was out ,not a hard job to do but if its the first time youve tackled this it will be tricky and you probly wont know the best way to get the window,mech,motor out....

Easy way is to lower the window and then unbolt the quater light.

thats the point im trying to make i couldnt lower the window as i sold the switches with the door cards ! unbolt the quater  light ?
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Post by: Wayne on 09 January 2011, 23:47
rear door (poly) windows fitted today ! if anyone tells you there easy to fit there lieing ! getting out the old windows and mechs with out a switch is not easy ! the front windows were easy enough, didnt have the window switches so just touched two wires together to lower the window to get to the vice bracket that holds the window to the mech, tried the same method with the back windows but it was having nun of it, so i couldnt lower the windows,  i cut the inner door away and and pulled the mech and motor down off the window, once metal,motor and mech was out the way the window is then pulled down into the door out of the runners on either side then back up (not in the runners) then leaned inside the door frame and she was out ,not a hard job to do but if its the first time youve tackled this it will be tricky and you probly wont know the best way to get the window,mech,motor out....

Easy way is to lower the window and then unbolt the quater light.

thats the point im trying to make i couldnt lower the window as i sold the switches with the door cards ! unbolt the quater  light ?

Yep look up in the top corner with the window down and you will see one bolt / screw the other is inside the door card.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 12:11
can anyone tell me the correct temperature that my vr6 should run at, at speed on the motorway and in traffic ?
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 January 2011, 12:22
can anyone tell me the correct temperature that my vr6 should run at, at speed on the motorway and in traffic ?
Water temp, 90 degrees most of the time...
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 12:25
can anyone tell me the correct temperature that my vr6 should run at, at speed on the motorway and in traffic ?
Water temp, 90 degrees most of the time...

when im in traffic it sits at 90degrees,and the fans cut in and stays steady at 90degrees, but when im rolling on the motorway it drops to just over 70degrees and stays stead there ! is that right ?
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Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2011, 12:27
can anyone tell me the correct temperature that my vr6 should run at, at speed on the motorway and in traffic ?
Water temp, 90 degrees most of the time...

when im in traffic it sits at 90degrees,and the fans cut in and stays steady at 90degrees, but when im rolling on the motorway it drops to just over 70degrees and stays stead there ! is that right ?


Don't think it should drop to be honest could a thermostat issue
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 12:32
can anyone tell me the correct temperature that my vr6 should run at, at speed on the motorway and in traffic ?
Water temp, 90 degrees most of the time...

when im in traffic it sits at 90degrees,and the fans cut in and stays steady at 90degrees, but when im rolling on the motorway it drops to just over 70degrees and stays stead there ! is that right ?

cheers wayne ! any ideas where to get one and how much ?

Don't think it should drop to be honest could a thermostat issue
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Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2011, 12:33
They are not expensive, GSF or ECP should have one.
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Post by: robz on 12 January 2011, 12:41
mine has always done this (although mine is 8v!) and i always panic when it gets to 90 degrees lol!
but as said, that is the ussual!
my rado used to hit 110 regularly :D
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 13:20
£50 all in ! part / fitting taking it in tommorow
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Post by: robz on 12 January 2011, 13:22
bargain ;)
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Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2011, 13:29
£50 all in ! part / fitting taking it in tommorow

Good price :afro:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 14:50
dyno booked tommorow at 1pm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: robz on 12 January 2011, 15:25
look forward to seeing the results of all your hard work!
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 15:31
look forward to seeing the results of all your hard work!

ive not done any engine work !!! all the work ive done is lightening the car..............

ill be happy if it hits 180bhp
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 12 January 2011, 15:38
Very Optimistic, but good luck! :afro:

I'm also hoping for 180 when i put mine on next month. Decat and full stainless steel system with a BMC CDA induction Kit..
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 15:42
Very Optimistic, but good luck! :afro:

I'm also hoping for 180 when i put mine on next month. Decat and full stainless steel system with a BMC CDA induction Kit..

yea to be fair id be happy with the standard 175 bhp after over 10 years !!!!! mine has been decated with a full stainless, and 6 branch manifold and some sort of induction kit !
ill let you all know tommorow
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Post by: robz on 12 January 2011, 16:18
I know you haven't but it has had work done hasn't it!
Worth a look anyway :)
Good luck
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 January 2011, 16:24
Where is it being rollered?

Anyone want to play:

Guess The Horse Power
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Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: maisy on 12 January 2011, 16:33
I think it'll stand around 150, lightening it aint gonna help on the rolling road and wasnt it said it was a bit tappety? yip 150 is my guess. (he aint gonna like that  :lipsrsealed:) good luck  :smiley:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 January 2011, 16:37
I think it'll stand around 150, lightening it aint gonna help on the rolling road and wasnt it said it was a bit tappety? yip 150 is my guess. (he aint gonna like that  :lipsrsealed:) good luck  :smiley:

That's a fair guess.. I'll say 160  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 12 January 2011, 16:38
I think it'll stand around 150, lightening it aint gonna help on the rolling road and wasnt it said it was a bit tappety? yip 150 is my guess. (he aint gonna like that  :lipsrsealed:) good luck  :smiley:

That's a fair guess.. I'll say 160  :lipsrsealed:

Does that mean i shouldn't expect 180 either?  :sad: :grin:
Title: Re: ((((vr6 stock to vr6 track))))
Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 January 2011, 16:42
Who knows, it's hard to guess the power of a car you have never seen let alone driven!
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Post by: maisy on 12 January 2011, 16:44
I think it'll stand around 150, lightening it aint gonna help on the rolling road and wasnt it said it was a bit tappety? yip 150 is my guess. (he aint gonna like that  :lipsrsealed:) good luck  :smiley:

That's a fair guess.. I'll say 160  :lipsrsealed:

Does that mean i shouldn't expect 180 either?  :sad: :grin:

to be fair we've seen A LOT of photos,  :grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 17:05
sanspeed in bexleyheath !!!! ill video it on the rollers for all to see........ if its 175 or above ill be happy ! if its below ill be a little dissapointed, but still what ever it is i know it goes well and now ive taken the weight out it should go well on the track....... ive got all my in car cams for the track,so it will be a good show......
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Post by: dom on 12 January 2011, 17:23
My money is on 170bhp  :smiley:
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Post by: golf-sib on 12 January 2011, 19:30
Sanspeed  :lipsrsealed:

Think there RR reads slightly off from what I've heard, as it reads nearly identically to AMD's one and we all know AMD exaggerate and their RR *cough bullsh!ts cought higher cough*... but fingers crossed you hit 170 at least  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 12 January 2011, 21:07
I would like to see you get the weight of the car.. As it stands and be good to see what it weighs when your done..
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Post by: stow1985 on 12 January 2011, 21:34
Il have stab at 165 ponys  :grin:

Good luck with it, hope the car doesnt have any troubles
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 21:40
My money is on 175
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 21:44
I would like to see you get the weight of the car.. As it stands and be good to see what it weighs when your done..

I'm nearly done with the diet ! There is nothing more in the rear that I can loose or cut, little more off the front but nearly there ! I'll have it on the scales soon .....
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Post by: tech1889 on 12 January 2011, 21:50
all brackets etc ground off ?? remove spare wheel well replace with a flat plate ??
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 22:06
f**king he'll tech shall I just cut the car in half and just drive the front bit round the track !

I'm gonna get rid of the dust caps and put a go faster stripe through the middle of the car
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Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2011, 22:10
150 to 160 bhp.
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 January 2011, 23:27
f**king he'll tech shall I just cut the car in half and just drive the front bit round the track !

I'm gonna get rid of the dust caps and put a go faster stripe through the middle of the car

 :huh: touchy?  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: Dmonday on 12 January 2011, 23:31
Think the stripe would add weight if i'm honest.. :undecided:

:D

Dan
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 January 2011, 23:33
Think the stripe would add weight if i'm honest.. :undecided:

:D

Dan

 :grin: and your caps would get dusty! 
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 12 January 2011, 23:34
f**king he'll tech shall I just cut the car in half and just drive the front bit round the track !

I'm gonna get rid of the dust caps and put a go faster stripe through the middle of the car

 :huh: touchy?  :lipsrsealed:

 :cool: lol
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Post by: tech1889 on 13 January 2011, 11:00
You can't even give advise nowadays.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 11:11
You can't even give advise nowadays.


:angry: :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 14:29
182.1BHP / 189FtLb OF TORQUE

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Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 14:30
nice one!!
now your happy!! :D
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 January 2011, 14:34
Happy Days... Nice one.
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Post by: dom on 13 January 2011, 14:36
Good result :afro:

That red mk4 would look sick if it didn't have those gay rear lights, it belong to anyone you know?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 14:36
nice one!!
now your happy!! :D

yea im quite happy with that (2.8 VR6 2792 cc VR6 Petrol 174 PS (128 kW; 172 hp) @5800 rpm 235 N·m (173 lb·ft) @4200 rpm AAA 7.6 224 km/h (139 mph) 1991−1997 )

standard the bhp is 172 and tourque is 173
now...... the bhp is 182 and tourque is 189
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 14:37
Good result :afro:

That red mk4 would look sick if it didn't have those gay rear lights, it belong to anyone you know?

no dom it was there when i got there  :smug:
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Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 14:39
tis nice!
wheels are spaced to fook!
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Post by: Wayne on 13 January 2011, 14:49
Good result :afro:
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 13 January 2011, 14:50
Nice one mate, good result, i have high hopes of mine now!  :cool:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 14:57
Nice one mate, good result, i have high hopes of mine now!  :cool:

yea im quite interested how well yours does now !!!!
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 15:04
just ordered 5mil spacers for the back and 3 mil spacers for the front, engine and gearbox mounts and a thermostat. tommorow im ordering the roll cage and strut braces, getting there slowly.........

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 January 2011, 15:07
I wonder what the output is at the wheels?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 15:08
I wonder what the output is at the wheels?

145

you just minus 20%
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 15:11
any ideas on decent brake fluid that wont cook ??? and decent engine oil ???
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Post by: lemski on 13 January 2011, 15:29
Dot 5.1 for brakes
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Post by: stow1985 on 13 January 2011, 16:53
Nice performance!! more than anyone expected i think
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 13 January 2011, 17:00
Nice performance!! more than anyone expected i think

Yea it was a little underestimated  ! I think it will perform very well on track
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 January 2011, 20:07
Nice performance!! more than anyone expected i think

Yea it was a little underestimated  ! I think it will perform very well on track

Since we don't know the car that well they were honest guesses.
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 13 January 2011, 20:13
good work so far, i wouldn't increase the track more on the rear than the front though, it will probably increase the understeer
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Post by: Peej1981 on 14 January 2011, 19:17
Only just read through this mmaattyyg and am caught up, really good result on the rollers, well done, i would be happy with that. The car is starting to get there, wont be long before you end up in the tyre walls  :laugh: :laugh: only joking mate  :laugh:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 01:06
strut brace in............... engine and gearbox mounts have arrived so as soon as it stops raining ill put them on.......... wheel spacers have arived too......... waiting for the seat subframes to come .......
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Post by: robz on 18 January 2011, 09:32
looking spot on!!
have you welded the brace in??
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 January 2011, 13:20
What spec is the tubing used for the brace then?

You've got a lot of work to do there still - you need a spot-weld drill and then you can remove all those unnecessary brackets.  :grin:

Just replacing the current brake fluid with new off-the-shelf cheap fluid from a local motor-factor is your best bet - don't bother with super-fandango fluid as the important thing is (like oil on track cars) that it's changed regularly.

New, clean brake fluid is what you want, as it'll be free of water, which is why old brake fluid boils, as it sucks it up over time.

P*ssing about with spacers is a fool's errand as on track you'll soon find out they're slightly out of balance and give you a confidence-destroying wobble under hard braking.  Seen it before and seen people amazed that the wobble goes as soon as they're taken off, allowing the owner to enjoy the car far more.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Guy on 18 January 2011, 13:25
are you declaring all these mods on your insurance?!  :grin:
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Post by: cняis on 18 January 2011, 13:26
im liking this thread a lot :afro:
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Post by: leigh_harty on 18 January 2011, 16:35
Ive seen this thread a few times and only just realised i know that reg plate  :wink:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 17:29
looking spot on!!
have you welded the brace in??

Yes it's welded in ! Check pictures
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Post by: robz on 18 January 2011, 18:02
Thought so, looks nice and clean!!
Excellent work, ya wanna come weld mine up :D
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 20:02
im liking this thread a lot :afro:

How much do u like it chriss  :grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 20:04
Thought so, looks nice and clean!!
Excellent work, ya wanna come weld mine up :D
Come to me, I'll weld you up
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 20:06
are you declaring all these mods on your insurance?!  :grin:

Guy you obviously missed the insurance thread ! I have trade insurance and do not need to inform them of any mods, as I'm covered to drive any car with any mods....
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Post by: dom on 18 January 2011, 20:33
are you declaring all these mods on your insurance?!  :grin:

Guy you obviously missed the insurance thread ! I have trade insurance and do not need to inform them of any mods, as I'm covered to drive any car with any mods....

You sure about that? :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 January 2011, 20:36
are you declaring all these mods on your insurance?!  :grin:

Guy you obviously missed the insurance thread ! I have trade insurance and do not need to inform them of any mods, as I'm covered to drive any car with any mods....

You sure about that? :lipsrsealed:

I tried really hard to get to the bottom of this and gave up.  I've never heard anything like it before as I thought being a personal car it would require it's own insurance especially since its being modified, but I was told I was wrong and let it go in the end.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 20:42
are you declaring all these mods on your insurance?!  :grin:

Guy you obviously missed the insurance thread ! I have trade insurance and do not need to inform them of any mods, as I'm covered to drive any car with any mods....

You sure about that? :lipsrsealed:

No Dom I'm not sure about my own insurance policy that I pay £1600 a year for ! I haven't read it and I make it up as I go along.......
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Post by: Wayne on 18 January 2011, 21:53
are you declaring all these mods on your insurance?!  :grin:

Guy you obviously missed the insurance thread ! I have trade insurance and do not need to inform them of any mods, as I'm covered to drive any car with any mods....

You sure about that? :lipsrsealed:

I tried really hard to get to the bottom of this and gave up.  I've never heard anything like it before as I thought being a personal car it would require it's own insurance especially since its being modified, but I was told I was wrong and let it go in the end.

It is a grey area but trade insurance will only cover cars you don't own, if it is your own car yes it will need it is own policy, that is how I understood it when I looked into it for a friend a year or so ago.
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Post by: Guy on 18 January 2011, 22:00
sorry... didn't mean to open a can of worms.. was only making a jokey comment!  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 January 2011, 22:01
It is a grey area but trade insurance will only cover cars you don't own, if it is your own car yes it will need it is own policy, that is I understood it when I looked into for a friend a year or so ago.

This, unless the car is some sort of a promotional vehicle for the business.
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Post by: dom on 18 January 2011, 22:03
sorry... didn't mean to open a can of worms.. was only making a jokey comment!  :lipsrsealed:

:laugh: I was merely tipping the can up and spilling the contents :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: leigh_harty on 18 January 2011, 22:11
I have some pictures of your vr somewhere, ill dig them out next time im on my laptop :smiley:
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Post by: Bellend on 18 January 2011, 22:16
Well my works insurance, which I am on, has just been renewed.

Any cars they own for personal/business use HAVE to be declared, personal vehicles although on the policy need their own set up.

They DON'T LIKE modified vehicles and although some do allow them, they NEED to be informed.
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Post by: robz on 18 January 2011, 22:19
Ya mean weld me or my car??
Was just a compliment dude !
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Post by: Adam on 18 January 2011, 22:21
Some do insure modified cars but most require you to declare the mods.

Also you do need to register the car if its for your own personal use.

This is what I gathered from ringing around to set up my own trade insurance.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 23:04
Ya mean weld me or my car??
Was just a compliment dude !

Robs I mean ur car dude ! If u bring it down to me I'll weld it up for ya
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 23:28
ally door cards cut ! soon to be pop riveted on properly
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 23:30
I have some pictures of your vr somewhere, ill dig them out next time im on my laptop :smiley:

sweet leigh ! look forward to seeing them
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Post by: Bellend on 18 January 2011, 23:40
Fair play.

I thought you were talking bollocks and thought nothing would ever get done.

Starting to prove everyone wrong.  :cool:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 23:46
can we please stop banging on about my insurance ! i have paid for it and i know all my entitlements ! i have fully read through my policy (small print included) and have also spoke to my broker who is a personal friend of mine who has confirmed what is on my policy and what i have told you guys quite a few times......... im sure a few of you have looked into trade insurance and made ur own asumption on what you have been told ! every policy is different and you basically get what you pay for.

ill say it again ( i am covered to drive ANY vehicle wether it be a sale car or my own personal car, with or without mondifications, if any vehicles i drive have been modified i do NOT need to inform my insurance company, as stated above I AM COVERED TO DRIVE ANY VEHICLE.......... hence there would be no need to inform of modifications as my policy has one price and does not go up or down depending on the car i drive or own. please stop mistaking my policy for policys you have enquired about..... it is a trade policy with social domestic and pleasure added on, which includes demonstration cover.

i hope this has made it a bit clearer for some of you now.

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Post by: dom on 18 January 2011, 23:48
can we please stop banging on about my insurance ! i have paid for it and i know all my entitlements ! i have fully read through my policy (small print included) and have also spoke to my broker who is a personal friend of mine who has confirmed what is on my policy and what i have told you guys quite a few times......... im sure a few of you have looked into trade insurance and made ur own asumption on what you have been told ! every policy is different and you basically get what you pay for.

ill say it again ( i am covered to drive ANY vehicle wether it be a sale car or my own personal car, with or without mondifications, if any vehicles i drive have been modified i do NOT need to inform my insurance company, as stated above I AM COVERED TO DRIVE ANY VEHICLE.......... hence there would be no need to inform of modifications as my policy has one price and does not go up or down depending on the car i drive or own. please stop mistaking my policy for policys you have enquired about..... it is a trade policy with social domestic and pleasure added on, which includes demonstration cover.

i hope this has made it a bit clearer for some of you now.



Sorry, can you just clarify that for me? :laugh:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 23:50
can we please stop banging on about my insurance ! i have paid for it and i know all my entitlements ! i have fully read through my policy (small print included) and have also spoke to my broker who is a personal friend of mine who has confirmed what is on my policy and what i have told you guys quite a few times......... im sure a few of you have looked into trade insurance and made ur own asumption on what you have been told ! every policy is different and you basically get what you pay for.

ill say it again ( i am covered to drive ANY vehicle wether it be a sale car or my own personal car, with or without mondifications, if any vehicles i drive have been modified i do NOT need to inform my insurance company, as stated above I AM COVERED TO DRIVE ANY VEHICLE.......... hence there would be no need to inform of modifications as my policy has one price and does not go up or down depending on the car i drive or own. please stop mistaking my policy for policys you have enquired about..... it is a trade policy with social domestic and pleasure added on, which includes demonstration cover.

i hope this has made it a bit clearer for some of you now.



Sorry, can you just clarify that for me? :laugh:

f**k off dom  :grin:
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Post by: dom on 18 January 2011, 23:53
can we please stop banging on about my insurance ! i have paid for it and i know all my entitlements ! i have fully read through my policy (small print included) and have also spoke to my broker who is a personal friend of mine who has confirmed what is on my policy and what i have told you guys quite a few times......... im sure a few of you have looked into trade insurance and made ur own asumption on what you have been told ! every policy is different and you basically get what you pay for.

ill say it again ( i am covered to drive ANY vehicle wether it be a sale car or my own personal car, with or without mondifications, if any vehicles i drive have been modified i do NOT need to inform my insurance company, as stated above I AM COVERED TO DRIVE ANY VEHICLE.......... hence there would be no need to inform of modifications as my policy has one price and does not go up or down depending on the car i drive or own. please stop mistaking my policy for policys you have enquired about..... it is a trade policy with social domestic and pleasure added on, which includes demonstration cover.

i hope this has made it a bit clearer for some of you now.



Sorry, can you just clarify that for me? :laugh:

f**k off dom  :grin:

:grin: i'm only messing, i'm sure you've looked into your insurance properly. Car is coming along nicely btw :afro:
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Post by: Wayne on 18 January 2011, 23:54
can we please stop banging on about my insurance ! i have paid for it and i know all my entitlements ! i have fully read through my policy (small print included) and have also spoke to my broker who is a personal friend of mine who has confirmed what is on my policy and what i have told you guys quite a few times......... im sure a few of you have looked into trade insurance and made ur own asumption on what you have been told ! every policy is different and you basically get what you pay for.

ill say it again ( i am covered to drive ANY vehicle wether it be a sale car or my own personal car, with or without mondifications, if any vehicles i drive have been modified i do NOT need to inform my insurance company, as stated above I AM COVERED TO DRIVE ANY VEHICLE.......... hence there would be no need to inform of modifications as my policy has one price and does not go up or down depending on the car i drive or own. please stop mistaking my policy for policys you have enquired about..... it is a trade policy with social domestic and pleasure added on, which includes demonstration cover.

i hope this has made it a bit clearer for some of you now.



Where do you stand with track days then  :smiley:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 18 January 2011, 23:58
What spec is the tubing used for the brace then?

You've got a lot of work to do there still - you need a spot-weld drill and then you can remove all those unnecessary brackets.  :grin:

Just replacing the current brake fluid with new off-the-shelf cheap fluid from a local motor-factor is your best bet - don't bother with super-fandango fluid as the important thing is (like oil on track cars) that it's changed regularly.

New, clean brake fluid is what you want, as it'll be free of water, which is why old brake fluid boils, as it sucks it up over time.

P*ssing about with spacers is a fool's errand as on track you'll soon find out they're slightly out of balance and give you a confidence-destroying wobble under hard braking.  Seen it before and seen people amazed that the wobble goes as soon as they're taken off, allowing the owner to enjoy the car far more.  :rolleyes:

not sure on the strut brace spec but i know  its made of mild steel......yea dh i think im gonna do just that for now , brake fluid off the shelf and some decent engine oil before the track day...... im gonna leave the spacers on for now and see how i get on on the track. and make adjustments as and when......
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 19 January 2011, 00:01
can we please stop banging on about my insurance ! i have paid for it and i know all my entitlements ! i have fully read through my policy (small print included) and have also spoke to my broker who is a personal friend of mine who has confirmed what is on my policy and what i have told you guys quite a few times......... im sure a few of you have looked into trade insurance and made ur own asumption on what you have been told ! every policy is different and you basically get what you pay for.

ill say it again ( i am covered to drive ANY vehicle wether it be a sale car or my own personal car, with or without mondifications, if any vehicles i drive have been modified i do NOT need to inform my insurance company, as stated above I AM COVERED TO DRIVE ANY VEHICLE.......... hence there would be no need to inform of modifications as my policy has one price and does not go up or down depending on the car i drive or own. please stop mistaking my policy for policys you have enquired about..... it is a trade policy with social domestic and pleasure added on, which includes demonstration cover.

i hope this has made it a bit clearer for some of you now.



Where do you stand with track days then  :smiley:

hello wayne, the policydoes NOT cover anything associated with track racing or hire
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 19 January 2011, 00:04
Only just read through this mmaattyyg and am caught up, really good result on the rollers, well done, i would be happy with that. The car is starting to get there, wont be long before you end up in the tyre walls  :laugh: :laugh: only joking mate  :laugh:

 :grin: :grin: you coming on track ? a few of my mates are coming down with there tomcats and another is bringing his rs4 if he hasnt sold it by then.
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Post by: Dmonday on 19 January 2011, 00:06
Much better dude ;) bet it took you ages to grind that paint off :shocked: keep it up!

Dan
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 19 January 2011, 00:08
Much better dude ;) bet it took you ages to grind that paint off :shocked: keep it up!

Dan

yea and gave me aurthrites in my hands  :grin: i think i might just get a friend to spray the inside matt black, less hasle  :smiley:
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Post by: robz on 19 January 2011, 07:27
Cheers dude, shame your a way a way!!
Those door cards are awesome!!!
I need to get on with mine now lol
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Post by: golf-sib on 19 January 2011, 12:39
Where did you get the bar done and welded?

Also where did you get the aluminium done and cut as there are quite a few lads on here that are pretty local and could use the info.

Its going good, keep it up! Any other future plans like removing spare tire well or rwd conversion...?  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 19 January 2011, 13:11
Where did you get the bar done and welded?

Also where did you get the aluminium done and cut as there are quite a few lads on here that are pretty local and could use the info.

Its going good, keep it up! Any other future plans like removing spare tire well or rwd conversion...?  :grin:

Don't mention this again for goodness sake!...  :grin: :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 19 January 2011, 23:31
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 19 January 2011, 23:32
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 19 January 2011, 23:33
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Post by: robz on 20 January 2011, 08:10
Looks brill
Keep it up!!!
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Post by: Chris-White on 20 January 2011, 18:37
my mates are coming down with there tomcats

pics?  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 January 2011, 18:44
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Post by: shepgti on 20 January 2011, 19:13
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their not tom cats :wink:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 January 2011, 21:16
they're not tom cats :wink:

 :rolleyes:

How do you know they're not tom-cats?  You can't see their parts in the photo.
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Post by: cняis on 20 January 2011, 21:22
they're not tom cats :wink:

 :rolleyes:

How do you know they're not tom-cats?  You can't see their parts in the photo.

can you?  :shocked:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 January 2011, 22:10
can you?  :shocked:

Even if I could I'd respect their privacy.
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Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 20 January 2011, 22:41
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 20 January 2011, 23:18
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:grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 00:42
one seat in !!!!

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Post by: Wayne on 21 January 2011, 11:50
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:
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Post by: sharki786 on 21 January 2011, 11:57
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICEEE  :cool: bet that must be quick without all that weight. have you took it to one of them places where it weights the car before and after? sorry just flicked through the pics. looks good,
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 21 January 2011, 13:11
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

Ditto - should be on tubes that run across from sill to tunnel rather than on spindly little uprights that are bolted through the floor.

Obviously, you've fitted reinforcing plates under the floor, right?  To ensure the seat won't just tear out, yeah?

At the moment this project looks like it's being completed by someone who's seen a rollcage in a racing car on the telly once, rather than bothered researching what they're doing.

Did you get any specification for the 'mild steel' tubing you're now using to secure your harnesses to, or have you actually just used scaffolding bar?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 18:41
new engine and gearbox mounts are on ( my hands are cut to f**k )

also think ive sussed out why my temp runs at 70 instead of 90 degress ! the auxiliary water pump is f**ked !!!! any ideas where to get one as they are not a common part,  from what ive read only the 1992 vr6 and simmilar models had this AUXILIARY water pump !?!?!?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 18:43
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICEEE  :cool: bet that must be quick without all that weight. have you took it to one of them places where it weights the car before and after? sorry just flicked through the pics. looks good,

not yet mate but i will do ! if i had to guess i would say ive taken out approx 100kg, i have filled up a ton bag with the parts ive taken off the car and now i can bearly lift the bag
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 18:45
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!
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Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 21 January 2011, 20:31
+1 on the seat mounts.  Dear God!  Slam the anchors on and....PING!

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 January 2011, 21:42
Looking good, i'm not saying anything negative as thats already covered.   No answer to the rear bar question?....... Seems it's going to be pretty tidy looking inside..
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 21:54
Looking good, i'm not saying anything negative as thats already covered.   No answer to the rear bar question?....... Seems it's going to be pretty tidy looking inside..

sorry mate what did i miss ? (rear bar question) ???  to be honest i was gonna do the whole project to a high standard to start with, but then thought i want it as a track  car and not a show car ! so the standard of work is not going to be great but at the same time wont be sh!t either......
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 21:55
im after a auxiliary water pump if any one has one ?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 21 January 2011, 21:56
+1 on the seat mounts.  Dear God!  Slam the anchors on and....PING!



the seats will be put in properly soon ! had to just chuck it in as i needed to drive the car.
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Post by: Wayne on 21 January 2011, 23:16
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:
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Post by: cняis on 22 January 2011, 13:56
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 14:06
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........
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Post by: cняis on 22 January 2011, 14:29
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

dont look at me, i only spotted their question  :cry:
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Post by: Adam on 22 January 2011, 14:33
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

You crash or you get shunted and the rear of the car is bends or breaks away, the harness is going with it. Where does that leave room for your body?

Think of it as a cheese slice through your chest. Not a safe or acceptable place to put a harness :undecided: That and they should be mounted parallel to the floor.
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Post by: Thom89 on 22 January 2011, 14:39
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

Just read this thread all the way through, nice turn round from your original thread, and you've been very busy!

The reason that you should never attach your belts to the strut brace is a major safety issue, example, If your car gets side swiped on the OS rear wheel, by another car, doing lets say 80mph, then it will cause the turret that the bar is welded to, to move, if this movement is in a rearwards direction, the the belts could quite easily snap you shoulder blades, or worse, but if the belts are attached to the cage, this will simply not happen, I strongly recommend that you change your decision on this

One other point, you'll need to sort out some sort of ventilation for yourself, and also the side windows, and windscreen, Demon Tweeks do very cheap inline fans for around £25 well worth it. especially if you want to be able to see where your going should it start to rain!

I also have a Motor traders policy that's pretty much the same as yours... they DO exist :rolleyes:

Thom
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 14:46
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

You crash or you get shunted and the rear of the car is bends or breaks away, the harness is going with it. Where does that leave room for your body?

Think of it as a cheese slice through your chest. Not a safe or acceptable place to put a harness :undecided: That and they should be mounted parallel to the floor.

ok im gonna look into this and put some anchor points on the floor.
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Post by: Adam on 22 January 2011, 14:47
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

You crash or you get shunted and the rear of the car is bends or breaks away, the harness is going with it. Where does that leave room for your body?

Think of it as a cheese slice through your chest. Not a safe or acceptable place to put a harness :undecided: That and they should be mounted parallel to the floor.

ok im gonna look into this and put some anchor points on the floor.

:afro: Much safer.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 14:49
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

Just read this thread all the way through, nice turn round from your original thread, and you've been very busy!

The reason that you should never attach your belts to the strut brace is a major safety issue, example, If your car gets side swiped on the OS rear wheel, by another car, doing lets say 80mph, then it will cause the turret that the bar is welded to, to move, if this movement is in a rearwards direction, the the belts could quite easily snap you shoulder blades, or worse, but if the belts are attached to the cage, this will simply not happen, I strongly recommend that you change your decision on this

One other point, you'll need to sort out some sort of ventilation for yourself, and also the side windows, and windscreen, Demon Tweeks do very cheap inline fans for around £25 well worth it. especially if you want to be able to see where your going should it start to rain!

I also have a Motor traders policy that's pretty much the same as yours... they DO exist :rolleyes:

Thom

yea im gonna look into changing the harness points......
whats the ventalation for ?
at last someone understands the insurance thing ! hopefullly that can be put to bed now.
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Post by: Thom89 on 22 January 2011, 15:01
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

Just read this thread all the way through, nice turn round from your original thread, and you've been very busy!

The reason that you should never attach your belts to the strut brace is a major safety issue, example, If your car gets side swiped on the OS rear wheel, by another car, doing lets say 80mph, then it will cause the turret that the bar is welded to, to move, if this movement is in a rearwards direction, the the belts could quite easily snap you shoulder blades, or worse, but if the belts are attached to the cage, this will simply not happen, I strongly recommend that you change your decision on this

One other point, you'll need to sort out some sort of ventilation for yourself, and also the side windows, and windscreen, Demon Tweeks do very cheap inline fans for around £25 well worth it. especially if you want to be able to see where your going should it start to rain!

I also have a Motor traders policy that's pretty much the same as yours... they DO exist :rolleyes:

Thom

yea im gonna look into changing the harness points......
whats the ventalation for ?
at last someone understands the insurance thing ! hopefullly that can be put to bed now.

Ventilation simply to keep the screens clear, and you'll need some sort of fresh air duct pointing towards you! stripping out all the insulation, carpets, dash etc, will make the inside of the car like an oven, even on a relatively cool day, an inline fan should be rigged up somehow maybe with the old screen de-mist vents taken from he old dash, or, maybe even cut the vented part of the dash away, and reattach it in its original position...
Thom
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Post by: tech1889 on 22 January 2011, 15:39
he still has started de-mist vents etc attached doesn't he ??
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 16:05
Cracking work, not sure on those seat mounting brackets  :undecided:

alright wayne ! the seat was a rush job to get in as i needed to drive the car somewhere to get something done, and didnt have the old seats ! but the seat subframe/braket will be rectified properly and rienforced ! watch this space !!!!!!!!!

 :cool: glad to hear that  :smiley:

DH and Soundillusion were questioning the rear strut brace, and why you have attached the seat belt to it?

why wouldnt i attatch the harness to it ? its a strong bar that would never bend in a million years, and its welded in properly.........

Just read this thread all the way through, nice turn round from your original thread, and you've been very busy!

The reason that you should never attach your belts to the strut brace is a major safety issue, example, If your car gets side swiped on the OS rear wheel, by another car, doing lets say 80mph, then it will cause the turret that the bar is welded to, to move, if this movement is in a rearwards direction, the the belts could quite easily snap you shoulder blades, or worse, but if the belts are attached to the cage, this will simply not happen, I strongly recommend that you change your decision on this

One other point, you'll need to sort out some sort of ventilation for yourself, and also the side windows, and windscreen, Demon Tweeks do very cheap inline fans for around £25 well worth it. especially if you want to be able to see where your going should it start to rain!

I also have a Motor traders policy that's pretty much the same as yours... they DO exist :rolleyes:

Thom

yea im gonna look into changing the harness points......
whats the ventalation for ?
at last someone understands the insurance thing ! hopefullly that can be put to bed now.

Ventilation simply to keep the screens clear, and you'll need some sort of fresh air duct pointing towards you! stripping out all the insulation, carpets, dash etc, will make the inside of the car like an oven, even on a relatively cool day, an inline fan should be rigged up somehow maybe with the old screen de-mist vents taken from he old dash, or, maybe even cut the vented part of the dash away, and reattach it in its original position...
Thom

ive still got the heating system in the car, pointing only to the front screen and straight inside the car, so thats the misty windows sorted,  and i have the little holes in the side windows i could stick a straw out of and breath through
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 16:06
he still has started de-mist vents etc attached doesn't he ??

tech you've lost me mate ?
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Post by: tech1889 on 22 January 2011, 16:13
do you still have your heaters and vents fitted ??
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 16:19
do you still have your heaters and vents fitted ??

yes mate, just the main air ducts tho, 1 pointing up at the screen and 1 pointing back into the car, i was initialy gone f**k off the whole heating system, but had second thoughts so refited it with a new heater matrix, makes the front dash look a bit ugly, as its on show but there you go, it has a job to do......
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Post by: tech1889 on 22 January 2011, 16:47
Well thats what the other guy was saying you needed a fan to clear the screen so i said you had the vents already.. so thats not a problem..
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 17:26
Well thats what the other guy was saying you needed a fan to clear the screen so i said you had the vents already.. so thats not a problem..

yea ! sorry i missunderstood first time round
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 22 January 2011, 18:52
lol, do the guys on club gti think you are a grade a twit as well then thomas?  :grin: what a surprise
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Post by: Chris-White on 22 January 2011, 20:04
Ref: all this arguing over seat mounting,

can someone explain to me what is wrong with going to say, demon tweeks, and buying a tailored golf3 seat subframe for say, corbeau seats, buying a corbeau forza seat and bolting them together, and then fitting the seat that way?
surely this would save all the hassle, would retain the sliding function of the seat, and mean it fits perfectly? Ok, its going to be about 80quid more, but if saves all this chopping and welding going on.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 22 January 2011, 22:32
lol, do the guys on club gti think you are a grade a twit as well then thomas?  :grin: what a surprise

No, a moderator on there doesn't like being made to look a twit on other forums and likes to wield his little bit of power, so shut down my CGTI account.

No loss - not really interested in being on a forum where accounts are routinely hacked by admin, who then spy on people.  :rolleyes:

But I'm sure you're welome on there, Mark - you must fit like a c0ck in a condom over there.

The curious thing is that you don't seem to have a view on this guy's harness bar - looks much like yours, but I'm sure yours is much safer, right?

can someone explain to me what is wrong with going to say, demon tweeks, and buying a tailored golf3 seat subframe for say, corbeau seats, buying a corbeau forza seat and bolting them together, and then fitting the seat that way?

Looking at the 'universal competition fitting kit' on Demon Tweeks it'll be mounting the seat a lot higher than the tubular mounting system.  If you wanted to compete you may find the seat mounting, retaining the adjustment might struggle with MSA regulations - I'd need to check through the Blue Book to confirm, but it's dice-y and with the look of that mounting system I wouldn't much fancy your chances with a scrutineer.  :grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 22 January 2011, 23:47
you guys have lost me here ? what have i missed ?
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Post by: Chris-White on 23 January 2011, 03:25

can someone explain to me what is wrong with going to say, demon tweeks, and buying a tailored golf3 seat subframe for say, corbeau seats, buying a corbeau forza seat and bolting them together, and then fitting the seat that way?

Looking at the 'universal competition fitting kit' on Demon Tweeks it'll be mounting the seat a lot higher than the tubular mounting system.  If you wanted to compete you may find the seat mounting, retaining the adjustment might struggle with MSA regulations - I'd need to check through the Blue Book to confirm, but it's dice-y and with the look of that mounting system I wouldn't much fancy your chances with a scrutineer.  :grin:

i mant something like this: http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/detprod.asp?ProductCode=COR-VOLK006&PID=159626

which slots straight into the original mountings. had one on my mini and there was no seat movement etc and the seat sat at the ideal height.
would the blue book bother you that much f the car was only for trackdays and ring trips etc? Have you ever been scrutineered at a trackday???  :undecided:

im not having a go, just seems a alot safer and more sensible than whacking out some homebrew welding with universal frames and dodgy looking plates.
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 23 January 2011, 07:58
No, a moderator on there doesn't like being made to look a twit on other forums and likes to wield his little bit of power, so shut down my CGTI account.


is that the same as you making half the forum on here look like twits?  :rolleyes: maybe in your head, as i said deluded.

i have an opinion, just dont feel the need to shout it out at every opportunity thinking its gospel :wink: i can think of several other ways of dying in my car when crashing that i'm not in a great rush to rectify. Motorsport is dangerous petal.

your right i would fit in over there if the admins have banned you, sounds like a great place
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 23 January 2011, 08:04
the trouble with those sliding mounts is they will have play in the runners like the standard seats do. Being on seat rails feels like your strapped to the car, not on it if that makes sense.

and no, you don't get scrutineered at trackdays  :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 January 2011, 08:39
would the blue book bother you that much f the car was only for trackdays and ring trips etc? Have you ever been scrutineered at a trackday???

You'd feel a proper fool driving 5-600 miles out to the 'ring, only to be turned away in your stripped out 'road racer' because the marshals on the gate thought it looked like a shed.  Yes I have seen it happen and people have been turned away for German-look plates, too.

While I agree scrutineering at track days doesn't currently happen, I wouldn't be surprised if it did start, also if you do decide you want to do any motorsport then it's pointless having to re-do things again because you did such a shoddy/unapproved job of it in the first place.

Seat mounting information is from P158 in this part of the Blue Book:  http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/bluebooks/11/152-190%20Competitor%20Safety.pdf

You might also like to have a read through the rollcage stuff prior to that - noting the minimum diameter, thickness and material specification, which denotes seamless tubing as a minimum for any rollcage - it you've used seamed tubing in your bar then under impact it's likely to split and fail, which is why I was asking if it was scaffold bar.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 23 January 2011, 20:33
redone the seat mounts using the subframes from the orriginal seats ! not the nicest looking, but seems to fit quite nice and they are very secure as they are the orriginal frames that go in the side mounting sliders ! what do we think ?

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Post by: mmaattyyg on 23 January 2011, 21:07
also does anyone have any views on attatching the side belts to eachother under/the back of the seats ?
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 January 2011, 22:59
I've posted the link to the relevant section of the Blue Book.  Go and read it for yourself - this is your safety at stake, not mine, you numpty.
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Post by: stow1985 on 23 January 2011, 23:45
 :cool: Looking good,

nice and clean inside,

door cards look tasty, do they weigh less than originals???

i cant comment on the saftey issues but once you get those sorted its gonna be sweet,

Keep it up!
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 24 January 2011, 17:42
:cool: Looking good,

nice and clean inside,

door cards look tasty, do they weigh less than originals???

i cant comment on the saftey issues but once you get those sorted its gonna be sweet,

Keep it up!

cheers ! yes the ally door cards weigh alot less than the stock door cards !
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 24 January 2011, 17:50
seats are now in properly with no movement,  but can still slide back and forth, all harness fixings have now been modified to fit the old fixing points ( so no cheese wire cuting me in half )

old sunroof is out and a piece of ally riveted and sealed in ! just purchased 5l of mobil 1 0w-40 and 2l of dot 5.1, so ill be bleeding out the whole brake system and sticking in the fresh 5.1 tommorow,

4 DAYS TO GO !!!!
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 27 January 2011, 16:28
Not long now.

Any pictures of how the car looks at the moment?
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 27 January 2011, 17:03
Not long now.

Any pictures of how the car looks at the moment?

I'll take some tommorow ! It's near enough ready for the track on sataday ! Just doing some last min bits and sorting the cams out !!!!
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 28 January 2011, 15:32
as ready as its gonna be now !!!!

if you look at the picture of the rear strut brace, just below it you can just see a gold bolt ! this is where i have monted 2 sealbelt brackets to the orriginal seat belt points, just incase i change my mind and want to take the harnesses off the strut brace ???

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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 28 January 2011, 15:41
Cheers for the PM! :afro:

Gotta say this is looking pretty cool, look forward to some videos now!  :evil:
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Post by: Wayne on 28 January 2011, 16:23
 :cool: :cool: Excellent work  :smiley:
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Post by: richandhazel on 28 January 2011, 16:31
Got to admire the time and effort that has gone into this and it's looking good.......well done :smiley:

Good luck tomorrow..........looking forward to seeing how you get on.
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Post by: Len on 28 January 2011, 16:35
Hoep ya dont roll it! :rolleyes:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 28 January 2011, 16:53
Hoep ya dont roll it! :rolleyes:

so do i without a roll cage ........ :wink:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 28 January 2011, 16:55
i should have 3 cams forward facing, and 1 cam rear facing so should get some good footage...............      of me going into the tyre wall........ joke :grin:
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Post by: stow1985 on 28 January 2011, 20:14
Looking tasty mate  :cool:

dont forget the matt black floor  :smug:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 28 January 2011, 20:18
Looking tasty mate  :cool:

dont forget the matt black floor  :smug:

yea i will get round to doing it but im doing all the work single handedly inbetween work, so not getting it done as quick as id like, but still, its getting there
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Post by: golf-sib on 29 January 2011, 11:36
Let us know how your track day goes  :smiley:

Keep the good work up :afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 29 January 2011, 13:17
It would be a stupid idea to come and follow you on Brands today wouldn't it?

I've never been, never looked into it, you need special insurance yeah? I.E you don't go and pay and then they cover you?
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Post by: tech1889 on 29 January 2011, 18:33
insurance is up to you you dont need it.. but if you break you still got to get home..
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 January 2011, 21:16
track day was wicked ! the vr supprised a lot of people on track, the seat touring race cars pissed on me, but the vr stood up well  against a lot of £40 grand mini cup race cars who had to work hard to take me, pissed two 172 renault clio's, pissed a mk1 mr2, pissed a 106, pissed a e36 328 and a e36 m3, the only things in my league i struggled with was a 2.5 v6 rover mg and a mk2 golf (1.9 tsi???)

the vr surprised me big time, as we know its not running massive power, but it was well balanced and handled well out breaking a lot of cars, which shocked me as im only running vented discs with ebc greenstuff pads, with fresh dot 5.1, the semi slick tyres also done me proud, the only negative i had was the front end being a bit too heavy and understeering, which i will work on sorting with a bit more weight loss on the front and a proper suspension set up.

all in all it performed brilliantly, surprising a lot of 20-40 grand cars,  and was a talking point for quite a few people at the track, which was nice to over hear as i have put a lot of work time and effort into it ....... engine wise she didnt skip a beat .....

im in two minds whether to do a few more mods and keep tracking her or see what kind of money she attracts with the intentions of selling and starting a new project ????

between me and my brother we managed to f**k up all the video footage, i have two 6 min vids but just as i drove onto the track the cam turned slightly to the left , kindof spoiling the footge, my wife done a sh!t job too trying to be david bailey..... im a bit gutted i didnt get the proper footage as i would have liked, as the day went well and she performed  well. i will upload the vids and pics tommorow as i am shattered now
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Post by: golf-sib on 29 January 2011, 21:37
Glad you had a fun time, I would personally start a new project as engine wise you will splash too, much money to see any gains. Maybe head into bigger NA engines or look into turbo spec'd cars as the additional torque will put a huge smile on your face, I was in a Leon Cupra k1 mapped with a few mods and it was a lot of fun to say the least.

Another huge flaw is fwd cars are fun, but if you want to take track serious, maybe a rwd or 4wd setup, good car would be a s4 as they can be picked up for £2500+. That would give plenty of power and with a strip out be plenty of fun.
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Post by: Wayne on 29 January 2011, 21:50
 :cool: Sounds like you had fun
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 29 January 2011, 22:03
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Post by: Toby on 29 January 2011, 22:14
looks  :cool: mate :) good job  :smug:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 January 2011, 13:44
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Post by: robz on 31 January 2011, 15:15
Looks fantastic mate!!!
Ya have a good day?
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 January 2011, 16:41
looks like its doing the job mate... whens the next track day ??
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 January 2011, 19:44
Looks fantastic mate!!!
Ya have a good day?

yes mate it was a wicked day, i was very supprised how well the car performed, i have a few tweeks i need to do with regards to the wheels tyres susspenstion and a bit of front end weight loss, for now the brakes are cool...... doing another track day hopefully in 2 weeks time ..... gonna try and get it going as well as phiscally possible without spending stupid amounts of money....
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 January 2011, 19:46
looks like its doing the job mate... whens the next track day ??

defenitly did tech, didnt let me down at all, engine didnt skip a beat, car performed spot on........ hopefully 2 weeks till the next track day!!!!!
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 January 2011, 20:17
how you gona solve ya understeer problems ??
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Post by: Horney on 31 January 2011, 20:21
Looks like you had fun :cool:

Nick
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 31 January 2011, 20:30
how you gona solve ya understeer problems ??

fibreglass bonnet and wings, inch bigger wheels with 1/2 inch lower profile (slick) tyres, drop the back end 15 mill, stiffen the rear end up slightly, and get the tyre pressures right !!!!!!!!

all of what i have done to the car, the tyre pressures made the most difference on track.
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Post by: Horney on 31 January 2011, 20:42
As it's a track car not a road car it might be worth seeing if using spacers you can tilt the engine back a bit. There's a guy on club GTI who races a VR, might be worth checking out his threads to se ehow he dealt with the boat anchor up front. I've seen his car on track and it looked to handle perfectly.

You'll never get rid of completely though, it's a FWD car after all. I can get my 8v to understeer like mad even on the semi slicks if I go mad with the throttle mid corner.

Nick
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Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2011, 22:27
My 1.6 MK3 understeers like a b!tch.

Even if you are coasting, the tail just doesn't come out. Just goes diagonal. Perhaps it's the cheap tyres but I remember Ess going on about it.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 00:02
heres a nice little find

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-gti-Track-Skye-auto-test-car-not-rally-no-swaps-/170597488319?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27b86716bf
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Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2011, 00:09
A good quality susp kit would help with the understeer.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 00:13
A good quality susp kit would help with the understeer.

Any ideas ?
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Post by: cняis on 02 February 2011, 00:29
A good quality susp kit would help with the understeer.

Any ideas ?

you get what you pay for, but id suggest knocking on the door of the motorsport section :afro:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 11:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwMsrng2y8
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Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2011, 11:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwMsrng2y8

Looks very soft, might be worth looking at a sorting the susp. and fitting uprated anti roll bars
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Post by: Khare on 02 February 2011, 11:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwMsrng2y8

Looks very soft, might be worth looking at a sorting the susp. and fitting uprated anti roll bars

I was just about to suggest that. It looks to dip a lot under braking too, I'd look at damper adjustable coilovers, you get what you pay for with them, so try and stretch the budget as far as you can go, then dd £50 on top of that  :grin:


And why the music over the vid? Let the engines do the singing next time!  :smiley:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 February 2011, 12:06
Only just had a proper catch up with this... can't watch the vid yet as i'm at work.... car looks good though, looks a bit sleeper like on the outside which is a good thing...  Combo of decent shocks and like you say better tyres and things will be much better.  It was good that you took it out as it was though so you could determine what you needed and think we can all agree that these are the two main things it's desperate for.  Good effort for getting it to the track on your deadline. :afro:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 12:17
Only just had a proper catch up with this... can't watch the vid yet as i'm at work.... car looks good though, looks a bit sleeper like on the outside which is a good thing...  Combo of decent shocks and like you say better tyres and things will be much better.  It was good that you took it out as it was though so you could determine what you needed and think we can all agree that these are the two main things it's desperate for.  Good effort for getting it to the track on your deadline. :afro:

yea i think alot of guys on here thought i was full of sh!t and just a talker !!!

yea i wanted to get it on track like you said to determine how it performs and and suss out how and what can better it.

ive been looking up a proper anti roll bar kit, polybushes and suspension, and tyres and bigger wheels with some lower profile tyres, i think with all this done, it will be a VERY competertive track car, out pacing quite a few, more expensive cars.
saying that it did perform really well on track and did handle OK, but didnt go round the bends as well as i would have liked, but still pissed on quite a few cars making up ground on the straight that was lost on the bends from the understeer......
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Post by: Khare on 02 February 2011, 12:24
You're better off sticking to 15" as tyres (T1R for example) are piss cheap http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m53b0s99p1667 (http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m53b0s99p1667).

Or trackday tyres

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s662p0 (http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s662p0)
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Post by: golf-sib on 02 February 2011, 14:22
Even good 15" tires will perform well, such as falken 452, t1r, f1s etc have very strong side walls and will not flex when being dragged sideways. Where did you get the doors cut and bar fitted?

As for suspension you have several choices depending on money, if you got the cash then get weitec etc, otherwise if you have a limited supply of money, some jom coilovers (as they are the stiffest out of the budget coilovers, such as fk), they were a vasy improvement on mk4.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 14:26
Even good 15" tires will perform well, such as falken 452, t1r, f1s etc have very strong side walls and will not flex when being dragged sideways. Where did you get the doors cut and bar fitted?

As for suspension you have several choices depending on money, if you got the cash then get weitec etc, otherwise if you have a limited supply of money, some jom coilovers (as they are the stiffest out of the budget coilovers, such as fk), they were a vasy improvement on mk4.
a fella in dartford done it for me, he is a metal prefab welder, so it doesnt get much better.

im gonna do my homwork on the suspension and get that sorted hopefuly for the next track day outing........
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 14:29
just out of interest does the s3 engine drop straight in the mk3 or is there alot of mods needed ? if so how complicated is it ? its just an idea so please dont all shout at me ....
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Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2011, 14:31
just out of interest does the s3 engine drop straight in the mk3 or is there alot of mods needed ? if so how complicated is it ? its just an idea so please dont all shout at me ....

Starting with a VR6 makes it easier.

Have a read of this thread: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=124485.0
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Post by: robz on 02 February 2011, 14:44
pm kells - think his username is f17bad now
he has recent knowledge of such conversion im sure!
also have a search, sure there is a thread dude!
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 14:52
wayne what do you reckon is it a road worth going down ?
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Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2011, 14:54
wayne what do you reckon is it a road worth going down ?

Yes and no, I believe that a s3 lump is not much lighter than the VR but has more power.

Hard choice but I would stick with the VR for now.
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 15:01
wayne what do you reckon is it a road worth going down ?

Yes and no, I believe that a s3 lump is not much lighter than the VR but has more power.

Hard choice but I would stick with the VR for now.

ok !!! it was just a thought .....
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Post by: cняis on 02 February 2011, 18:42
wayne what do you reckon is it a road worth going down ?

Yes and no, I believe that a s3 lump is not much lighter than the VR but has more power.

Hard choice but I would stick with the VR for now.

ok !!! it was just a thought .....

sort the suspension out first, for quality etc for track use you're looking at £500+ minimum. dont bother with JOM or any other ebay specials.
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Post by: golf-sib on 02 February 2011, 18:52
All depends on what your after mate? What do you want your car to be doing? Weight wise 1.8T and vr6 are about the same.

The mk3 VR6 are not really powerful engines and power wise they cannot have alot more done to them, all you can do is uprate your cams and lighten your flywheel to see a better overall response and gain. Otherwise spend huge money for a turbo conversion...

The 1.8T engines are not that much powerful (the early specs, such as AGU) but they will push 200bhp with 210lb torque with a remap (but the torque will be a fair bit more over the vr6), later engines like S3 and LCR 1.8T's remap to the 260bhp mark. Which is a considerable amount more off power, plus you will have all that extra pulling power due to the torque figures.

Its all down to what you want to be pushing, which is what you should really think about now before wasting additional money and then changing your mind.

Since your not to far from me, let me know when your free and I can show you what a 1.8T feels like and maybe consider if its something you may or may not want, unfortunately the mk4 weighs as much as an elephant and is not as light as your mk3.
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Post by: stow1985 on 02 February 2011, 19:53
quick question guys,

is there any difference between the s3 1.8t engine and the golf gti 1.8t??  :embarassed:
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Post by: golf-sib on 02 February 2011, 20:21
quick question guys,

is there any difference between the s3 1.8t engine and the golf gti 1.8t??  :embarassed:

Biggest difference in 1.8T engines are the turbos (plus some changes in the engines themselves), early golfs had k03 turbos (150bhp), then 2000 onwards k03s turbos where put on (180bhp), on the golf. But the s3/tt/lcr got k04 turbos (225bhp).
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 02 February 2011, 23:14
All depends on what your after mate? What do you want your car to be doing? Weight wise 1.8T and vr6 are about the same.

The mk3 VR6 are not really powerful engines and power wise they cannot have alot more done to them, all you can do is uprate your cams and lighten your flywheel to see a better overall response and gain. Otherwise spend huge money for a turbo conversion...

The 1.8T engines are not that much powerful (the early specs, such as AGU) but they will push 200bhp with 210lb torque with a remap (but the torque will be a fair bit more over the vr6), later engines like S3 and LCR 1.8T's remap to the 260bhp mark. Which is a considerable amount more off power, plus you will have all that extra pulling power due to the torque figures.

Its all down to what you want to be pushing, which is what you should really think about now before wasting additional money and then changing your mind.

Since your not to far from me, let me know when your free and I can show you what a 1.8T feels like and maybe consider if its something you may or may not want, unfortunately the mk4 weighs as much as an elephant and is not as light as your mk3.

ive officially decided not to do any engine conversion, im gonna stick with the vr6 lump and just concentrate on getting this car going round bends like its on rails, so im now just gonna plod along and do it bit by bit, anti roll bars back and front, poly bushes all round, ect ect ..........
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Post by: Bellend on 03 February 2011, 17:59
I've driven a Corsa this week that handled literally like it was on rails. Was awful.  :grin:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 03 February 2011, 22:04
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 February 2011, 22:16
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......

That's bound to feck it up then!  too much engine, are you mad?... it was only 5 minutes ago you said you were going to leave the engine and concentrate on handling.. Or are you taking the p155...

BTW, do you go look anywhere on this site other than your own thread?
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Post by: dom on 03 February 2011, 22:22
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......

I really hope that is a joke :huh:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 03 February 2011, 22:25
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......

That's bound to feck it up then!  too much engine, are you mad?... it was only 5 minutes ago you said you were going to leave the engine and concentrate on handling.. Or are you taking the p155...

BTW, do you go look anywhere on this site other than your own thread?
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its either a 6litre v12 or im gonna raise the susspension put big wheels and tyres on it and turn it into a monster truck
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 February 2011, 22:28
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......
That's bound to feck it up then!  too much engine, are you mad?... it was only 5 minutes ago you said you were going to leave the engine and concentrate on handling.. Or are you taking the p155...

BTW, do you go look anywhere on this site other than your own thread?

I really hope that is a joke :huh:

Do THIS (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=180300.0) if anything


its either a 6litre v12 or im gonna raise the susspension put big wheels and tyres on it and turn it into a monster truck

Somebody's on the drink tonight aren't they?.... and the answer to my second question is?.................


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Post by: mmaattyyg on 03 February 2011, 22:36
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......
That's bound to feck it up then!  too much engine, are you mad?... it was only 5 minutes ago you said you were going to leave the engine and concentrate on handling.. Or are you taking the p155...

BTW, do you go look anywhere on this site other than your own thread?

I really hope that is a joke :huh:

Do THIS (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=180300.0) if anything


its either a 6litre v12 or im gonna raise the susspension put big wheels and tyres on it and turn it into a monster truck

Somebody's on the drink tonight aren't they?.... and the answer to my second question is?.................



yea i do have a little look about, only really look up what i wanna do tho........
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 February 2011, 23:12
..........and are you pi55ed?
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Post by: Wayne on 03 February 2011, 23:19
a freind of mine is gonna help me take the engine out and put a rear mounted 6litre v12 in it, rear wheel drive......

Please no  :rolleyes:
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Post by: mmaattyyg on 03 February 2011, 23:38
..........and are you pi55ed?

nah im only messin
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Post by: stow1985 on 07 February 2011, 20:16
quick question guys,

is there any difference between the s3 1.8t engine and the golf gti 1.8t??  :embarassed:

Biggest difference in 1.8T engines are the turbos (plus some changes in the engines themselves), early golfs had k03 turbos (150bhp), then 2000 onwards k03s turbos where put on (180bhp), on the golf. But the s3/tt/lcr got k04 turbos (225bhp).

Cheers  :smiley: