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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Jamied281 on 03 January 2011, 09:52
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Hi Guys
Need a bit of help, Im Just in the process of buying a MK6 GTI with DSG, i used to have a MK5 R32 man so don't know much about the DSG setup.
I test drove the MK6 at the local VW dealer, and as i was coming up to the end of the test drive i noticed that it was selecting 1st very harshly from standstill, then when coming to a standstill it nearly stalled.
I told them that if i was to go any further they will need to investigate. Its an 09 plate 12k registered in May 2years warranty left. Its got all the options i want on it and the right colour so hoping it can be sorted. any idea's what the problem might be? as they have initially said this sat for pick up and i according to some posts this could take a while to sort. :shocked:
Cheers for any help
Jay
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http://www.dsgproblems.co.uk might have some clues but don't be put off as that site is purely for problems and folk just love to spout their problems
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If its the Car you want and has the right spec then i would buy, but they need to sort out DSG box first.
You still have 2yrs warrenty :wink:
You could have a new box put it in ??
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Steve would you buy knowing it had a faulty DSG?
That is your heart ruling your head and lethal when it comes to buying a car.
I know I certainly wouldn't regardless of a 2 year warranty or not.
Every time your car is in the dealers there is every chance that they could break something else.
If they fix it before hand then that is a different matter
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^ I agree with p3asa
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I'll be driving it before I sign any papers to check the fault has gone, plus I'm going to get the service manager to sign to say it's been fixed. If it's still the same, in the words of a famous Nole Edmounds show "no deal" !
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Steve would you buy knowing it had a faulty DSG?
That is your heart ruling your head and lethal when it comes to buying a car.
I know I certainly wouldn't regardless of a 2 year warranty or not.
Every time your car is in the dealers there is every chance that they could break something else.
If they fix it before hand then that is a different matter
Yes I would buy it no problems , but as I said it would need to be fixed good and proper!! :wink:. I would pay an independent Tec to have it checked ! Dsg's do go wrong and people get scared off I agree but still has 2 year warrenty left.
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Yes I would buy it no problems , but as I said it I would need to be fixed good and proper!! :wink:. I would to be convinced therefor I would pay an independent Tec to have it checked!
Sorry I must have misread you then as I thought you were saying buy it as it had the spec he was looking for plus had a 2 years warranty to fix the problems!!
Like I said I certainly wouldn't buy. Especially since there will always be another one just around the corner.
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They may even put a new DSG Box in got new car more or less then , I would follow it through see how you get on with the deal once its fixed??
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Yes I would buy it no problems , but as I said it I would need to be fixed good and proper!! :wink:. I would to be convinced therefor I would pay an independent Tec to have it checked!
Sorry I must have misread you then as I thought you were saying buy it as it had the spec he was looking for plus had a 2 years warranty to fix the problems!!
Like I said I certainly wouldn't buy. Especially since there will always be another one just around the corner.
Sorry i was the iphone again spelling problems :sad:
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Hello and welcome to the forum :smiley:
The DSG box should be very smooth and not shudder especially this latest version, I like everyone above wouldn't accept the car until it's been sorted, although it may not be the gearbox itself causing the problem,
Regards changing the box if it is that, I had the dsg box changed in a caddy van I bought for work and the good news is that they did such a good job that you would never tell it had been done :smiley:
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Cheers for the advice so far guys, well the car is DBP has 12k, DSG, Leather Seats, Rear Cam, Bluetooth and i'm look at paying around 21K for it. love every minute of the test drive apart from the end part. Just waiting to here back from VW on Tuesday. fingers crossed for a sat pick up! :evil:
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Sorry i was the iphone again spelling problems :sad:
I have this happen to me a lot too :sad:
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Cheers for the advice so far guys, well the car is DBP has 12k, DSG, Leather Seats, Rear Cam, Bluetooth and i'm look at paying around 21K for it. love every minute of the test drive apart from the end part. Just waiting to here back from VW on Tuesday. fingers crossed for a sat pick up! :evil:
£21k for a DSG GTI, that's a good price as I've not seen any that cheap from a VW Main Dealer. If it were me I'd be concerned over the issue with the DSG. My DSG is nothing but smooth and the nuts, I love DSG, glad I got one. Using it in manual mode is just superb and the noise the car makes when you shift is very addictive.
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I though DSGs had 10 year warrenties anyway? I might be wrong.
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the noise the car makes when you shift is very addictive.
Do they still blip the throttle for you as you manually change gear to makes that wonderful sound??
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the noise the car makes when you shift is very addictive.
Do they still blip the throttle for you as you manually change gear to makes that wonderful sound??
They sure do :evil:
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the noise the car makes when you shift is very addictive.
Do they still blip the throttle for you as you manually change gear to makes that wonderful sound??
Yes Doc and blip even louder and better with the Milltek :cool:
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I though DSGs had 10 year warrenties anyway? I might be wrong.
I think that only applies in the US of A.
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Jay,
Not sure if this helps. I bought a new DSG GTi in Sept 09 and very soon experienced similar symptoms to those you described on your test drive. Very jumpy when 1st engaged and anything but smooth in stop-start traffic. Got worse the more warmed up the car was.
After a couple of visits to the dealer, I had to have the whole DSG box replaced. They said it was due to the mechanotronic unit overheating. They said it wasn't an uncommon fault on the earlier Mk6 DSG boxes.
Not sure if that helps but might be worth a mention?
Col
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Jay,
Not sure if this helps. I bought a new DSG GTi in Sept 09 and very soon experienced similar symptoms to those you described on your test drive. Very jumpy when 1st engaged and anything but smooth in stop-start traffic. Got worse the more warmed up the car was.
After a couple of visits to the dealer, I had to have the whole DSG box replaced. They said it was due to the mechanotronic unit overheating. They said it wasn't an uncommon fault on the earlier Mk6 DSG boxes.
Not sure if that helps but might be worth a mention?
Col
Its a good post that is , and they may well repalce the the all DSG box
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the noise the car makes when you shift is very addictive.
Do they still blip the throttle for you as you manually change gear to makes that wonderful sound??
Yes Doc and blip even louder and better with the Milltek :cool:
Don't think it would sound *quite* so good on my battleship grey tractor :sad:
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VW replaced the manual clutch in my mk5 TDI 3 times under warranty.
I didn't want to take a chance with the new car, so thought I'd order DSG. Oops!
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Daz the demon clutch killer :grin:
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Daz the demon clutch killer :grin:
... I wondered that too. :undecided:
VW manual clutches are just made of cheese. The dealer eventually admitted it. Said he was replacing several each week.
I am hoping that the DSG clutches are better.
Had my first car for 6 years with no clutch issues. 2nd car for 6 months - rolled it through a hedge issue :embarassed: 3rd car for 8 years with no clutch issue. 4th car Mk5 TDI golf on its third clutch - 4 years. 5th car will be Golf GTD with DSG - looks like I have to keep my fingers crossed that I get a good clutch again :undecided:
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Hey, cheers for all the reply's. Just had word back and they think its the Mechantronics unit just waiting for confirmation. If it is will this solve the problem? and are the new units more reliable than the early 09's?
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You'll get newest and best :wink:
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I fear DSG will spell the end of a lot of cars in the future with the cost of repair.
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Jay, it's Col again. I mentioned about my DSG box being replaced due to the over-heating mechanotronix unit. Just (hopefully) to put you mind at rest, I have had no problems whatsoever since the replacement - works lilke a dream!
Col
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Hey, cheers for all the reply's. Just had word back and they think its the Mechantronics unit just waiting for confirmation. If it is will this solve the problem? and are the new units more reliable than the early 09's?
Its like having a new DSG Box when its replaced enjoy :cool:
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The Techs at VW have come back and said there going to replace the mechantronics, is this a good thing? Or should I push to get the whole box replaced? I was thinking if they only replace the mech unit getting them to put a new 3yr warranty on the whole car. It's a tough call, need your experience guys. Cheers in advance
Jay :huh:
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^^ Its great they are going to fix the mechantronic unit 1800 quids worth work, and should feel like a new car, I would ask them to warrenty the DSG box for you , if dont ask you dont get!! :cool:
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Update: VW have replaced the mech unit, and are going to extend the warranty on the whole vehicle for a year (2 1/2 years remaining) and theres a 3 year warranty on the new unit. So hopefully ill pick the car up in the next 7 to 10 days! :laugh:
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Execellent news , lets see a picture on here soon :cool:
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Update: VW have replaced the mech unit, and are going to extend the warranty on the whole vehicle for a year (2 1/2 years remaining) and theres a 3 year warranty on the new unit. So hopefully ill pick the car up in the next 7 to 10 days! :laugh:
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/quote]Trust me run a mile. I would be very suprised if changing the mech unit adressed the problem. I had mine changed on a brand new one last March. It didnt solve the problem, i gave it back,they still have it now, still on sale. I bought an s3 auto, same box,no problems. If you can find a good one, and you will for shure, then snap it up. Its a grest toy. Who wants to be using a stick in this day n age.
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More DSG stuff. :smiley:
EDITED as was provoking. :wink:
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Sorry to cause you to yawn, but it could be a 22k yawn for me if it goes tits up! :sick:
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Sorry to cause you to yawn, but it could be a 22k yawn for me if it goes tits up! :sick:
I'm not yawining very intrested to hear what happen's to the DSG box? Keep us updated please!! :wink:
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Sorry to cause you to yawn, but it could be a 22k yawn for me if it goes tits up! :sick:
Not directed at you specifically, but the rest of the gang. :grin:
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The Techs at VW have come back and said there going to replace the mechantronics, is this a good thing? Or should I push to get the whole box replaced?
I had the mech unit replaced on my last R32 (similar problems) and everything was fine after that ... no more problems and a much smoother DSG. No need for a new DSG box IMO.
So you should be all sorted now ... good luck with the purchase if you go for it :smiley: