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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Golf mk6 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: Steve30 on 31 December 2010, 22:35
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I'm not sure about this, but is the A3 quicker than the GTD ? :undecided:
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Am not sure but probally. I mean vws are a bit sluggish these days. A3 4wd?
Liam
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I'm not sure about this, but is the A3 quicker than the GTD ? :undecided:
Hi again Steve, looks like the A3 170 is quicker on paper as Audi quote a lower 0-60 time for their DSG models. VW used to report lower DSG 0-60 times for their DSG models but for some reason the MK6 stats for both the GTI, GTD or R are shown with the same 0-60 for both manual and DSG!
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Not my one :kiss:
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Not my one :kiss:
What you pushing out Doc? :undecided:
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Not my one :kiss:
What you pushing out Doc? :undecided:
Dont worry, you'll have the same as me when it's fully tested :wink:
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Not my one :kiss:
What you pushing out Doc? :undecided:
Dont worry, you'll have the same as me when it's fully tested :wink:
Ok mate :wink:
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No its not quicker standard.
I looked at the audi and decided if i went for the audi i would get the quattro version. It was my sensible fall back option when i thought the GTI order was going really badly. There are quite a few time i think i should have gone that way and my family often say i should have and at the time really wanted me to.
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For me it was a toss up between the S3 sportback and the Golf, I went with the golf which was the best choice due to the miles I cover plus the audi chassis seemed very dated and there's a new A3 due any day.
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For me it was a toss up between the S3 spotback and the Golf, I went with the golf which was the best choice due to the miles I cover plus the audi chassis seemed very dated and there's a new A3 due any day.
How much is the TDI A3 170 4wd? :undecided:
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plus the audi chassis seemed very dated and there's a new A3 due any day.
I never have understand these two coments from golf mk6 owners. It always confuses me. :undecided:
Is it not the same basic chassis as the golf mk5/6? The golf Mk6 is due to be replaced too?
Cars get develop over there production times and get updated anyway just the public very rare gets to hear about it.
I just use to put it down to mk6 owners wanting to make themselfs feel better about there choice of car.
Im confused.
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Base version 170 £23100
Black edition 170 £26450
You can't get auto quattro A3's btw
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Come to Wales and I'll race you Steve :tongue:
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plus the audi chassis seemed very dated and there's a new A3 due any day.
I never have understand these two coments from golf mk6 owners. It always confuses me. :undecided:
Is it not the same basic chassis as the golf mk5/6? The golf Mk6 is due to be replaced too?
Cars get develop over there production times and get updated anyway just the public very rare gets to hear about it.
I just use to put it down to mk6 owners wanting to make themselfs feel better about there choice of car.
Im confused.
There is a massive difference between driving a mk5 and mk6 just for starters as I drive a lot of mk5 golfs in work on a regular basis, most are GT TDI's.
Go drive the S3 and you can make your own decision :wink:
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Come to Wales and I'll race you Steve :tongue:
Sounds like a challenge there Rhyso, when you in London next? So have you got an A3 tdi 170?
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plus the audi chassis seemed very dated and there's a new A3 due any day.
I never have understand these two coments from golf mk6 owners. It always confuses me. :undecided:
Is it not the same basic chassis as the golf mk5/6? The golf Mk6 is due to be replaced too?
Cars get develop over there production times and get updated anyway just the public very rare gets to hear about it.
I just use to put it down to mk6 owners wanting to make themselfs feel better about there choice of car.
Im confused.
There is a massive difference between driving a mk5 and mk6 just for starters as I drive a lot of mk5 golfs in work on a regular basis, most are GT TDI's.
Go drive the S3 and you can make your own decision :wink:
I have. We had a mk5 GTI for 4 years before, and a mate still has a company one i often drive, The mk6 is harder suspension wise but apart from that i find them similar. I also had an S3 on trile for 24 hours from a local audi dealer before i bought the mk6. Another mate this week takes delivery of his 09 S3 so i may go have another drive of one. I felt it similar except steering weight but i find that with all 4motion/heldex versions of golfs and also Audi's they tune the steering lighter. Audi S-line developed over production, the early ones shook your teath out, the susepnsion was fine tuned during production years the later ones are much better. There all slight different but i put it down to suspension settings/tunning and steering settings not a dated chassis difference, I think of it they tweeked for different customer stiles.
There is a huge difference to GTTDI mk5 and mk6 imho because the engine in caracter and delivery is so much different it makes the car feel so much different. I have one of the last PDtdi leon mk1s and driving a GTD is totally different. I know Steve knows my views and enthusiasm for the mk6 GTD after a drove a few. I was never impressed with the mk5 GTTDI refinment infact when i first test drove one i was gobsmacked at how ruff and unrefined and vibration there was that i got back out and thought no way am i changing to that its a backward step from what we have. I later with the great reveiws and forum speak of the mk5 GTTDI i tried another one and again i was so bitterly disapointed. Mind saying this i have also driven quite a few mk4 GTTDI golfs and there not a patch on our leon either.
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And your decision was, a golf :wink:
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Im a golf person, if i did not have the mk1 i would prob have gone audi but theres just somthing about 2 GTIs sitting in the home garage together :grin: I also hate light steering.
The added performance of the S3 was not a concern for me, im not a speed nutter like 99% of them on here the GTI/GTD was enough performance for me. If i had not been running a TDI as a daily for the previous two years and just fancied a change so thought petrol the GTD or Audi would have been my choice and was the logical choice really but the draw of another GTI won it by a wisker. I blaim the mk1 sitting looking at me. :grin:
How much is the TDI A3 170 4wd? :undecided:
At the time i bought my GTI i could have got the audi TDI170 s-line Quattro for less.
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Please delete. :smiley:
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Please delete. :smiley:
Why ? :undecided:
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Please delete. :smiley:
Why ? :undecided:
As i posted a double posted and i cannot delete posts in here :wink:
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Come to Wales and I'll race you Steve :tongue:
Sounds like a challenge there Rhyso, when you in London next? So have you got an A3 tdi 170?
I avoid London at all costs mate; can't stand the place :lipsrsealed: Normally make it to a few shows. Perhaps we should meet up at Santa Pod and take it down the strip :grin: :grin:
A3 S Line TDI 170 Sportback :afro: Click the link under my signature picture for my thread :smiley:
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Its 41 page thread Rhyso , stick a picture of it in here mate :grin:
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Its 41 page thread Rhyso , stick a picture of it in here mate :grin:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=166206.290
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^^Very nice car , is it 4WD? You mapped it? :undecided:
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^^Very nice car , is it 4WD? You mapped it? :undecided:
Nah only 2wd. Test drove the Quattro (Haldex really, same as the Golf) but didn't really see the point in lugging around another 100kg for that 1 in 100 time I'd need the full benefit of the system. That and the boot space is smaller. Plus they were more expensive to buy, tax insure, run etc etc
I remember the sales woman telling me 'you should have come yesterday when it was raining, you would have felt the full benefit of the system.' My reply - 'if I need 4wd to drive in the rain, I shouldn't be allowed to drive' :grin: :grin:
And no it isn't mapped :smiley:
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So Golf or Audi Rhyso ? :undecided:
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So Golf or Audi Rhyso ? :undecided:
To buy brand new or which one is quicker?
I already made my choice when I bought mine :wink: As for which one is quicker, in the real world I doubt there'd be anything in it. It would come down to how you tested their speed and the driver behind the wheel.
Fundamentally they are the same car underneath but setup to cater for different markets which is what Snoopy pointed out earlier
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So Golf or Audi Rhyso ? :undecided:
To buy brand new or which one is quicker?
I already made my choice when I bought mine :wink: As for which one is quicker, in the real world I doubt there'd be anything in it. It would come down to how you tested their speed and the driver behind the wheel.
Fundamentally they are the same car underneath but setup to cater for different markets which is what Snoopy pointed out earlier
I am looking at Audi's, so was asking really would you buy another golf or A3?
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So Golf or Audi Rhyso ? :undecided:
To buy brand new or which one is quicker?
I already made my choice when I bought mine :wink: As for which one is quicker, in the real world I doubt there'd be anything in it. It would come down to how you tested their speed and the driver behind the wheel.
Fundamentally they are the same car underneath but setup to cater for different markets which is what Snoopy pointed out earlier
I am looking at Audi's, so was asking really would you buy another golf or A3?
Audi but if you're looking to buy brand new then hold off as a new A3 is due within the next 12 months
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For me it was a toss up between the S3 sportback and the Golf, I went with the golf which was the best choice due to the miles I cover plus the audi chassis seemed very dated and there's a new A3 due any day.
Doc, the exact reason I didnt get an S3. The ride is harsh enough in my A3 TDI, the S3 was too hard and thows the car off line on anything but smooth roads.
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I've always thought that if it were a toss up i'd get an Audi A3 TDI over an VW TDI BUT! My Mk6 GTI is without doubt a better quality & more modern feeling car than my outgoing A3 TDI S-Line 170.
I chose the Audi two years ago as the company were paying for it, if it were my money Golf all the way..... Although having typed this - sorry but no Golf diesel is worth over £30k imo.
Jim
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If it was me I'd spend my money on the Golf GTD.
First of all it is a newer model. The Audi a3 platform was developed some years ago and will inherently be ageing now. The mk6 platform may be based on the a3 platform (or whatever model it is based on) but it has revision which are more up to date.
Secondly I think the GTD looks better. I've always thought a3s look a bit too round and tubby but that is just my own opinion.
Thirdly I reckon the VW is better value. For me the A3 170hp diesel is just a hum drum Audi model albeit with a fairly decent engine. The GTD on the other hand is a special model. It comes with a unique body kit, alloys, spec options and also shares to a certain extent the pedigree of the GTI.
I suppose this is really just marketing but it works for me and I'd rather put my money for a newer, similar quality and more standout model than for an older, more hum drum option.
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Auto Express: VW Golf GTD vs. Audi A3 TDI...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/238867/vw_golf_gtd_vs_audi_a3_tdi.html (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/238867/vw_golf_gtd_vs_audi_a3_tdi.html)
Verdict...
As our two contenders are so similar, you would expect this to be a close-run finish. But the VW and Audi have completely different characters. Although they share the same engine, have practical five-door bodies and feature high-quality cabins, they don’t go about their jobs in the same way.
Don’t be fooled by the subtle design of the A3 Sportback – behind its conservative exterior is a serious high-performance hatch. It’s fast, composed and refined, but doesn’t shout about its performance. The Audi also feels like a premium product... yet the VW is more sporty to look at, sit in and drive.
That’s why it wins. From behind the wheel, the Golf is more fun than the A3, but it’s also more frugal and refined. The smoother engine, more capable chassis and special cabin confirm the GTD as an incredibly desirable family car.
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Even before reading that it would be the GOLF, the A3 needs a good revamp, little like the A4 has recently
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Before I brought the GTD, I drove an A3 170 DSG (80K); both are great. There aint nothing between them...to me , steering wheels define the car. .....the GTD steering whelel roks. An improvement I could make to my manual GTD is a 'chip' , massaging inserts, super quick heated steering; an 'interactive pillow, come; head-up display
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Today, running low, I paid £70 to fill up. Owning a GTI, pound per mile, must be painful.. Luckily I dint pay the bill, A gti woould have cost the equivalent of £100 to fill the tank.
Feeling the need to expliot the best performance from a GTD is costing me 500 miles per tank.
If you like to cane a willing engine, the GTD satisfies......
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but it’s also more frugal and refined. The smoother engine, more capable chassis and special cabin confirm the GTD as an incredibly desirable family car.
That must have been a PD TDI A3 v CR GTD otherwise it makes no sense :grin:
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Today, running low, I paid £70 to fill up. Owning a GTI, pound per mile, must be painful.. Luckily I dint pay the bill, A gti woould have cost the equivalent of £100 to fill the tank.
How'd you work that one out - petrol is cheaper than diesel...
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Today, running low, I paid £70 to fill up. Owning a GTI, pound per mile, must be painful.. Luckily I dint pay the bill, A gti woould have cost the equivalent of £100 to fill the tank.
How'd you work that one out - petrol is cheaper than diesel...
I was just thinking how without spilling it :grin: as the last time i filled up with the mk6 GTI it was reading 5 miles left in the tank it only came to £61 to the brim and that was v-power i could have used the normal much cheaper stuff if i wanted too as myself i don't feel a difference.
£100 for the same miles maybe, but in real terms for me its only 10mpg less for the GTI for what it gets used for. Which came to less than £200 extra a year in fuel if i used it every single time i go and use a car but i don't so in real terms its much less for me.
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Brimmed mine yesterday at a cost of £74.01 probably could have squeezed some more in though.
Bloody expensive to run a car nowadays.