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Title: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 13:57
Thought i'd share this for those that don't venture outside their comfort zones much... as taken from my post here (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=175633.0)

Finally found my stuff on the Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineeing RHD 5 door MK1 GTI

Pics:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/5drMK1GTI.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/5drMK1GTIa.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/5drMK1GTIb.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/freresmith/5drMK1GTIc.jpg)

I think it also came with the long range fuel tank that used the spare wheel well, not sure but this was an option and this car had pretty much all of them when I saw it for sale a long time back...  I believe its the same engine as mine underneath it all. RLR 8v plus pac with around 135-140 bhp.  I'd be surprised if mines still pumping out OEM horses at the moment let alone the extra it was given all those years ago..  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 30 December 2010, 14:05
Interestin that that package gives it the same sort of bhp as the mk2 16valves. What were the 1.8s running out the vw factory?
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: dom on 30 December 2010, 14:05
Very nice, i'm liking the wheels  :cool:
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 14:29
Interestin that that package gives it the same sort of bhp as the mk2 16valves. What were the 1.8s running out the vw factory?

The original 1.8 8v produced around 110 bhp, just a tad more than the earlier 1.6

The 1.8 produced more torque but was not as rev happy as the 1.6

Richard Lloyd Racing (later known as GTI Engineering) developed packages that would give you the best of both worlds with more horses to boot. I was well impressed with mine when I first got it even though it had been converted like 20 years beforehand!

Got lots of info on this kind of stuff and could babble on all day!  :lipsrsealed:

Richard Lloyd sadly died in a plane crash a couple of years ago... Another reason I am more keen to get mine back on the road.

Very nice, i'm liking the wheels  :cool:

I know, it's got me thinking! Of the distant future at least... One day I want mine to look more like this again as it did once upon a time.

PS.... IRC, when I saw this up for sale a few years ago it was going for something like 12k
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 30 December 2010, 14:46
That's quite sweet. To have yours to look as it did all them years ago would be a perfect tribute to its originality at the man who made it happen
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 15:18
That's quite sweet. To have yours to look as it did all them years ago would be a perfect tribute to its originality at the man who made it happen

Tell me about it... Well she wasn't far off it in the earlier pictures of my dub rides thread... When i bought the car the only thing that was not how it should have been was the wheels and the grille, the rest of it was how it always was.

If you're bored one day have a google of Richard Lloyd.  A fantastic race driver in his day (pictured in one of his mk1s in my sig below) had his own unit at Silverstone race circuit (GTI engineering) which was a VW approved workshop for servicing and modifications.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 30 December 2010, 15:25
The gold ra wheeled one? I'm on my phone and I know what ur sig picture is. That's bad. Haha. And I will mate. I think mk1 looking original would be kwl as. Especially the engine. Just needs a rebuild and such.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: jv on 30 December 2010, 15:31
Now that is nice :cool: Any ideas how much it sold for? Can't see it on their site.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 15:44
The gold ra wheeled one? I'm on my phone and I know what ur sig picture is. That's bad. Haha. And I will mate. I think mk1 looking original would be kwl as. Especially the engine. Just needs a rebuild and such.

Not RA wheels on that one in my sig but yeah the Akai sponsored one...  My engine still seems pretty strong considering and drove very well when I last could.  Power all the way up the rev range up to 7k ish! Once on the road i will get it looked at.. Think it could do with some attention to the cam/shims.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 15:48
Now that is nice :cool: Any ideas how much it sold for? Can't see it on their site.

Those pictures are from a few years ago now.  I'm sure it was going for around 12k when I clocked it. A one off order that I believe spent most of it's time locked up, had very low miles and obviously a very rare spec which included my engine, leathers, the wheels, long distance fuel tank and even green tinted glass like the 3 door.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 30 December 2010, 16:24
What wheels are they?
And 7k that's better than mk2 8vs. I am stunned and now very weary next time I come up to a mk1
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2010, 16:39
What wheels are they?
And 7k that's better than mk2 8vs. I am stunned and now very weary next time I come up to a mk1

Not sure, I'm no expert when it comes to wheels, defo some kind of early BBS motorsport wheel though, couldn't tell you what, someone else might know.

I think the standard rev limit on mine was 6.9 originally but no longer limited so have to be careful not to get carried away.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 30 December 2010, 16:59
Well mines 7.2 on the limiter so there's not that much differance. At 3k in 5th what speed are you doing?
And bbs motorsport wheels of the past is good enough for me. U seen ma seats yet mate (just hijackin your thread slightly)
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 20:32
Very very nice.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Peej1981 on 30 December 2010, 20:47
Thats has be one of the nicest mk1's iv seen. Thats is getting filed away in my porn mag  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 09:49
Well mines 7.2 on the limiter so there's not that much differance. At 3k in 5th what speed are you doing?
And bbs motorsport wheels of the past is good enough for me. U seen ma seats yet mate (just hijackin your thread slightly)

I can't remember, it's been  6 and half years since i've driven it... I'll let you know when i get the chance.  :grin:  yes, i've seen your seats just not commented yet, why only one pic from the back though?

Very very nice.

Thats has be one of the nicest mk1's iv seen. Thats is getting filed away in my porn mag  :laugh: :laugh:

I certainly wouldn't say no to it.  Rare and wonderful!  :cool:
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 31 December 2010, 14:05
Cos couldt get a front pick but I will
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Snoopy on 31 December 2010, 18:27
You posted it again,  :drool: i sooo like the look of that mk1.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Wayne on 31 December 2010, 18:37
What wheels are they?
And 7k that's better than mk2 8vs. I am stunned and now very weary next time I come up to a mk1

Not sure, I'm no expert when it comes to wheels, defo some kind of early BBS motorsport wheel though, couldn't tell you what, someone else might know.

I think the standard rev limit on mine was 6.9 originally but no longer limited so have to be careful not to get carried away.

Early BBS RA's
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 31 December 2010, 18:39
Ahhh thanku wayne. Now I don't have to wonder any more.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 December 2010, 19:10
What wheels are they?
And 7k that's better than mk2 8vs. I am stunned and now very weary next time I come up to a mk1

Not sure, I'm no expert when it comes to wheels, defo some kind of early BBS motorsport wheel though, couldn't tell you what, someone else might know.

I think the standard rev limit on mine was 6.9 originally but no longer limited so have to be careful not to get carried away.

Early BBS RA's

The ones on the RLR Akai golf in my sig?
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Wayne on 31 December 2010, 19:27
What wheels are they?
And 7k that's better than mk2 8vs. I am stunned and now very weary next time I come up to a mk1

Not sure, I'm no expert when it comes to wheels, defo some kind of early BBS motorsport wheel though, couldn't tell you what, someone else might know.

I think the standard rev limit on mine was 6.9 originally but no longer limited so have to be careful not to get carried away.

Early BBS RA's


The ones on the RLR Akai golf in my sig?

No the ones on the RLR car
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 01 January 2011, 14:35
Yeah, I thought he was asking about the Akai golf after I mentioned that.  Not sure what they are! A lot of motorsport cars had that style in the 80s.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Wayne on 01 January 2011, 15:00
Yeah, I thought he was asking about the Akai golf after I mentioned that.  Not sure what they are! A lot of motorsport cars had that style in the 80s.

I am 99% sure they were made by compomotive
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: SoundillusioN on 01 January 2011, 15:23
Yeah, I thought he was asking about the Akai golf after I mentioned that.  Not sure what they are! A lot of motorsport cars had that style in the 80s.

I am 99% sure they were made by compomotive

Think you're right, Just had a quick google and found quite a few similar looking compo wheels from the 80s.... Popular race wheels for dubs, bm's and wide body porsche'.
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Wayne on 01 January 2011, 15:24
Yeah, I thought he was asking about the Akai golf after I mentioned that.  Not sure what they are! A lot of motorsport cars had that style in the 80s.

I am 99% sure they were made by compomotive

Think you're right, Just had a quick google and found quite a few similar looking compo wheels from the 80s.... Popular race wheels for dubs, bm's and wide body porsche'.


I migh wrong but I believe they were CX's
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: lemski on 01 January 2011, 16:54
Hmmm martins just got compos that look like ra's. What in the 80's had 4x98pcd?
Title: Re: MK1 RHD 5 Door GTI - Richard Lloyd/GTI Engineering
Post by: Wayne on 01 January 2011, 16:56
Hmmm martins just got compos that look like ra's. What in the 80's had 4x98pcd?

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