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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: neutron on 05 December 2010, 17:50
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Hello everyone! . I have joined the forum in the hope of getting some owners views of how highly you rate your Gti, how it compares against previous cars you have owned. Currently I run a BMW 130 and considering a Gti as a possible replacement. I have had a fairly short test drive in the Mk VI and was impressed by all aspects of the car. The car had leather seats and 18" Monzas.
Thanks
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Welcome, even though you are not an owner yet.
I tried a BMW 130i and hated it. It was cramped, ugly, and overpriced. Rated it 11/20.
Then tried a GTi and loved everything about it. Its looks, size, performance and comfort.
I rate my GTi 18/20.
It is a near perfect car IMO.
Previous car: Honda Type R GT, rated at 14/20
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does what it says on the tin really. nice cabin. lots of good info and advice available. crappy dealers. you must get it remapped!
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Got the car justs over twelve months and done 10000+ miles with no problem or rattle. Really happy with my car. Would like a bit more rear leg room and boot space. Straight line speed more than adequate rather than spectacular!
You might spend £30000+ on a premium hot hatch. Don't expect the after sales match that premium image! :angry: So far I had only dealt with Liverpool VW and VW racing. Maybe there are better dealers out there!
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I am selling my GTI after 16 months, not because I don't like it, but because I usually change cars every 18 months or so irrespective of how good they are (pity you can't do that with wives... :grin:)
Anyway, I would say the Mk6 GTI is in the top 2 or 3 cars I have owned. I have had about 20, including a remapped BMW 330d (300hp) and an e39 M5 (400hp). My remapped (275hp) Golf is easier to live with than either of these and acceleration is on a parr with my 330d. It has one MASSIVE handicap, however: it's FWD, so no matter how good the engine is, you can never really get all the power down on to the road like you can with a RWD.
It's a brilliant car and I shall be sad to see it go, but this is the last time I buy a powerful FWD car.
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I am selling my GTI after 16 months, not because I don't like it, but because I usually change cars every 18 months or so irrespective of how good they are (pity you can't do that with wives... :grin:)
You can but it costs more :evil:
As a white good its a good car. It drives well, handles well, goes well, has a nice touchy feely interior so has everything jounos want.
But as a design engineer i see too many cost cutting (Mk5's suffer too) and silly design errors that most don't see and the average Joe would not be bothered about as they probably change cars before they ever become an issue.
Mine also seems to have been a rush build as i have suffered quite a few rattles.
So to sum up, nice drive, nice interior but bitterly disapointed in the package from a design point of view.
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Interesting thread this one.
I've had a 3dr 130i 18months or so ago. I'm my opinion the BMW is a better car but it depends on what you are after.
The Golf has a more immediate set of skills but the BMW has a greater depth to it. It has more character and a truly great motor, in fact the engine defines the car. The golf has more space and feels lighter and more on its toes feeling to driving it.
I guess the question is why are you selling the BMW?
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I rate mine 9 out of 10.
Quick, comfortable, practical, car park kudos, looks good, economical when it want to be and great fun to drive. Always look forward to a long journey in it.
But need more power ( I cannot remap as it is a company car ) and better traction ( much improved now that Contis have been replaced with Goodyears ). The XDS trick diff does not really work that well. I came from a 4 Motion and that was brilliant in all weathers.
So to sum up perfect car for me would be a Golf R. Needed to own a GTi to work that out !
130i looks to be brilliant car though, real sleeper. I couldn't live with the ' bread van' look though.
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Froggy: What will you replace it with?
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My Mrs had a 120d Msport and the suspension was shocking - you wont need new teeth when you go over bumps in a golf.
We also agreed that the dash on the 1 series was very "low rent" with low quality plastics versus the golfs premium feel.
In summary Golfs are a great day to day car.
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My Mrs had a 120d Msport and the suspension was shocking - you wont need new teeth when you go over bumps in a golf.
My Mrs has a 120i M Sport Cabrio - and I have the same problem with feeling every bump on the road. I've started to think part of it has to do with the run-flat tyres - which make you feel pot holes so much?
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Interesting thread this one.
I've had a 3dr 130i 18months or so ago. I'm my opinion the BMW is a better car but it depends on what you are after.
The Golf has a more immediate set of skills but the BMW has a greater depth to it. It has more character and a truly great motor, in fact the engine defines the car. The golf has more space and feels lighter and more on its toes feeling to driving it.
I guess the question is why are you selling the BMW?
It is not....I find the difference huge...drove that BMW for a week...what an overpriced car...too much plastic all around you...great chairs (so has the GTI) but the rest build for midgets...bad rear/side vision
and hardly any decent extra's for all that money (got the feeling that the majority of my euro's went to image what most call character :evil:)
VW delivers much more bang for the buck.......it simply ticks all the boxes...and if you state that the engine defines the car get the GTI's cheap remap and be amazed about its engine power......would not be surpised if it ends up being faster than the BMW as well...did not engaged one yet... :evil:
Anyway I rate my MK VI car very high and a lot higher than my GTI MK V which I loved to bits.... :kiss:
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Car - 8/10 :smiley:
Dealers 4/10 (service department) :angry:
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I just love my car. My only problem last year (and it was serious) was that the bloody thing was like Bambi on ice. Fixed that with a couple of winter tyres and now I'm unreservedly smitten.
Rolfe.
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The more I own this car the more I grow to appreciate it. It really is a sleeper... not in terms of performance, but in terms of charm. I agree with the views on here that the GTI has a premium feel. I regularly swap between my GTI and my dad's slk and (granted the slk is ageing) I find the GTI actually feels higher quality. Perhaps it's just because the GTI is newer. Hmmm.
I also agree with the versatility. Mine is remapped although I am now used to the performance so it doesn't really feel that quick any more. I had to get it rolling roaded to check it was putting out the same power. But it is very economical (tax, insurance, fuel) for the performance and it is very practical.
Heading over to Europe again this summer with some mates and I can't wait to do another long trip in the GTI.
Car - 8/10 :smiley:
Dealers 4/10 (service department) :angry:
I know I might be very lucky on here but my service department is very good.
I'll rate the GTI at 8/10. There are some very small improvements which could be made -some of these are just peculiar to my specific GTI and won't apply to other GTIs - but on the whole the car is very very good.
I want to add however that spec for spec my car seems to have increased by about 3k. That would now put it up against a lower spec R or a similar spec S3. I'm not too bothered in terms of the car being expensive but considering the other cars offer a similar engine, gearbox and refinement balance but with Haldex 4wd, well I'm just not sure the GTI would be such good value.
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Enjoyed mine loads, had it nearly 18 months remap made it so much better when the revo software worked, nearly swapped for a golf r a few months back, However the bad weather and my need for something faster, I'm swapping back to an Evo, new price drop has helped my decision £5000 off all evos now, you can have an fq360 for the same price as an R, and a fq330 for about the same price as a gti with a few extra's, fq300 cheaper then a gti outright
Add that with a 3year unlimited miles warranty it blows vw away! Salesmen v good got a further discount off the new discount,
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Froggy: What will you replace it with?
Nothing for the moment, although the Land Rover Evoque might tickle my fancy when it's launched next summer.
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Thanks for the replies, the underlying theme for me from these replies is that the majority of you love your GTI's.!
Although a 20 minute test drive isn't long I was more impressed than I expected By the GTI. Comparing it to the 130 after such a short drive is maybe a bit presumptious but here goes.
Engine --- as Beardo has stated the straight six defines the 130 and is a peach 9/10.After saying that the Golf engine is also very good indeed being responsive, linear and very flexible 8/10.
Handling --- On smooth tarmac the 130 handles really well and gets better the faster you go.On anything other than smooth tarmac it's not as confidence inspiring and the picture changes 7/10.The Golf at no time felt anything less than very composed and solid 8/10.
Ride Quality--- 130 let down by shocks through the car from road defects,manholes etc no doubt due to the run flats 6/10. Golf seemed to be better resolved over a range of surfaces 8/10.
Driveability --- 130 not an easy car to drive quickly smoothly, notchy gear change 1st and 2nd
especially when cold, clutch control hard to master so never as satisfying as it should be 7/10.Golf so
driveable it was an absolute pleasure.Gear change superior. 9/10.
Exterior Quality --- in the fairly recent past I have often been able to detect manufacturing issues on Golfs ,not on this car though. 130 7/10. Golf 8/10.
Interior Quality --- Don't agree that the quality of the materials on my car which is a facelift 2007 LE 3 door is of a lesser quality than those used in the GTI, however the Golf feels more robust and better screwed together, couldn't detect a creak,rattle or vibration during the test drive. 130 7/10 Golf 8/10.
Comfort --- really impressed by the seat comfort in the GTI, driving position good in both cars. 130 8/10. Golf 9/10
am1w described the 130 as cramped, ugly and overpriced. Although not quite as spacious as the Golf, I have never found the cars interior and boot dimensions to be a hardship. The car in 3 door guise is actually quite handsome in my opinion and a bit different. I would agree it is overpriced , I would not have paid the 30K which was the new cost of the Limited Edition. After saying that though spec a GTI to a similiar standard ie leather,nav, xenons,parking sensors,Bluetooth,updated sound system and no doubt you won't be far away !
Snoopy , I was interested to read that you are so disappointed in the silly design errors encountered in the car, can you elaborate a little?.
Thanks again.
Interior Quality ---
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although i havent driven the 3.0 straight six in the 1 series I have in both the 3 and 7. Absolutely lovelly jubbly it was!!!
love the interior of the 1, esp the seats which are much better than GTI imo. (msport ones)
the ride is harsh, but the biggest problem i found with the 1 series is 1st and 2nd gears... horrible horrible horrible!!!
remap the GTI and I think know the 130i will struggle to keep up... only problem then is the FWD but this means the car can still have some use in bad weather. BMW's are useless in the snow/ice, trust me I had to drive around a 7 series yesterday with 20" wheels!!!!
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Exterior Quality --- in the fairly recent past I have often been able to detect manufacturing issues on Golfs ,not on this car though. 130 7/10. Golf 8/10.
Snoopy , I was interested to read that you are so disappointed in the silly design errors encountered in the car, can you elaborate a little?.
Sponges for sound damping in the wheel arches below the drain for the scuttle panel are open cell type so soak up water and will cause rust (the smaller one of the two at the top of the wing is fitted to mk5s and its causing them to rust)
My original thread about it including video that imo is worth watching
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=135263.0
Body panels skimping on body colour paint and protection. My original thread.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=150136.0
More photos of behind these panels can be seen on my own car thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=149545.0
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Best car on the market at the moment for me.
As an every day car it does everything it needs to and in a certain understated style.
No fuss, no drama, just gets on with it.
Fast, comfortable, practical, well built, decent fuel economy, good looking and still making me smile well over a year later.
Now just need to find a woman with the same qualities.......
Brilliant. 9/10
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My Mrs had a 120d Msport and the suspension was shocking - you wont need new teeth when you go over bumps in a golf.
My Mrs has a 120i M Sport Cabrio - and I have the same problem with feeling every bump on the road. I've started to think part of it has to do with the run-flat tyres - which make you feel pot holes so much?
Knocked her up so it had to go before I found out - It's terrible isn't it!
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Knocked her up so it had to go before I found out - It's terrible isn't it!
Oh how quaint! :evil:
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Knocked her up so it had to go before I found out - It's terrible isn't it!
Oh how quaint! :evil:
It's a well known fact that I call it as it is lol
I'll try again.....
Unfotunatly I never got around to trying non runflats as my wife Helen whom I adore fell pregant during our ownership of said BMW so we sold it to buy her a 5 door car more suitable for a mother and offspring.
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Knocked her up so it had to go before I found out - It's terrible isn't it!
Oh how quaint! :evil:
It's a well known fact that I call it as it is lol
I'll try again.....
Unfotunatly I never got around to trying non runflats as my wife Helen whom I adore fell pregant during our ownership of said BMW so we sold it to buy her a 5 door car more suitable for a mother and offspring.
That's the spirit, beautifully put Doc :smiley:
My dad had a 120i M Sport and yes the ride over any bumps was terrible, back breaking! He only kept it a couple of years and traded in for the new 330D sport which is a far better car in every way and the ride is no problem even with 19" run flat tyres.
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Knocked her up so it had to go before I found out - It's terrible isn't it!
Oh how quaint! :evil:
It's a well known fact that I call it as it is lol
I'll try again.....
Unfotunatly I never got around to trying non runflats as my wife Helen whom I adore fell pregant during our ownership of said BMW so we sold it to buy her a 5 door car more suitable for a mother and offspring.
Aaaa ... all sweetness and light. Such a lovely gesture. You are up there in my estimation.
Love the name Helen. :smiley:
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Thanks she's a cracker :wink: