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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 20:21

Title: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 20:21
I know i have seen it from somewere but anyone seen were to buy the tyre sensor button and harness to retrofit the Tyre flat warning?

(I know you only need the button to reset the system but...)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 28 November 2010, 20:40
Kufatec list one for the Mk5: -

http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p907_c26_TPMS---Tire-Pressure-Monitoring--Harness-VW-Golf-5-Golf-5-Plus.html

I keep meaning to make one up for mine, if I do I will keep the part numbers and wire lengths etc so could repeat if you want the kit as well  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 28 November 2010, 20:56
I'd be up for one of those Steve  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 28 November 2010, 21:05
Ok Mike, I will post up the results, will get some parts ordered this week  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 21:11
I would be interested but i would prefer it if mine was were the 2010 cars were in the glovebox rather than the centre concel like it is on the earlier 2009 cars.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 28 November 2010, 21:12
I am looking at what can be done for that too  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 21:14
Thanks Steve. :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 21:36
Heres a guide i found for the mk5. Not read it yet so not sure how much use it is or not.
http://www.worldimpex.com/assets/partdocuments/TPMS1.pdf
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 28 November 2010, 21:46
Yep that has the basics of what pins to connect etc  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 28 November 2010, 22:15
Nice find, I might give this a go myself as it appears you only need the switch and the wire to the ABS controller as long as you use the ESP switch for the others.

Is that PDF for an AUDI as it mentions the AUDI radios in the text.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 22:32
Think so, its from a thread by Darren when he fitted TPMS to his mk5.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7677.0
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 November 2010, 22:43
There is also
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/how-retrofit-indirect-tire-pressure-monitoring-5-minutes-7k6-50164.html
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Keithuk on 29 November 2010, 12:15
Snoopy you should have the basic TPMS already there you just need to enable it via VCDS. Don't bother with the full kit as it isn't worth the extra cost plus fitting. My Flat Tyre Indicator works perfectly and its the best £35 I've ever spent on the car.  :wink:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/how-retrofit-indirect-tire-pressure-monitoring-5-minutes-7k6-50164.html
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: am1w on 29 November 2010, 12:25
Snoopy you should have the basic TPMS already there you just need to enable it via VCDS. Don't bother with the full kit as it isn't worth the extra cost plus fitting. My Flat Tyre Indicator works perfectly and its the best £35 I've ever spent on the car.  :wink:

Forgive my ignorance. You say a dealer can enable it without the full kit. Will it then show on the MFD if there is a deflation?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 29 November 2010, 12:29
Yes but you can't reset it yourself without either access to VCDS cable or going back to the dealers.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: am1w on 29 November 2010, 12:30
Yes but you can't reset it yourself without either access to VCDS cable or going back to the dealers.

Thanks Steve. Thought so.

Highjack:
Any news of the Xenons?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Keithuk on 29 November 2010, 12:34
Snoopy you should have the basic TPMS already there you just need to enable it via VCDS.

Forgive my ignorance. You say a dealer can enable it without the full kit. Will it then show on the MFD if there is a deflation?
You will hear the beep and the flat tyre light will be lit it will show nothing on the MFD. Now they are quite sensitive I have one tyre that drops 3 psi after about 3 or 4 weeks and the light comes on so a visual check isn't much use for 3 psi. Obviously a visual check is the first thing you do just in case you have a fast puncture.

I just added then link to retrofiting the indirect tyre pressure monitoring system.  :wink:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/how-retrofit-indirect-tire-pressure-monitoring-5-minutes-7k6-50164.html

You will need the Set button in the glovebox to recalibrate it otherwise you have to use the VCDS to do it.

Pushbutton switch for tyre pressure warning centre console black/white

1k0 927 121 C REH - £15.45

or for glovebox switch

1K0 927 121 B REH - £15.45

but I don't know how you get the switch loom?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: am1w on 29 November 2010, 12:38
Snoopy you should have the basic TPMS already there you just need to enable it via VCDS. Don't bother with the full kit as it isn't worth the extra cost plus fitting. My Flat Tyre Indicator works perfectly and its the best £35 I've ever spent on the car.  :wink:
My name is Keith and I'm a 54 years young senior motor vehicle technician at Stoke on Trent College. I've been driving and riding motorcycles for the past 37 years.
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/how-retrofit-indirect-tire-pressure-monitoring-5-minutes-7k6-50164.html

WOW!
I bow to thee! :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 29 November 2010, 13:20
Snoopy you should have the basic TPMS already there you just need to enable it via VCDS.

Forgive my ignorance. You say a dealer can enable it without the full kit. Will it then show on the MFD if there is a deflation?
You will hear the beep and the flat tyre light will be lit it will show nothing on the MFD. Now they are quite sensitive I have one tyre that drops 3 psi after about 3 or 4 weeks and the light comes on so a visual check isn't much use for 3 psi. Obviously a visual check is the first thing you do just in case you have a fast puncture.

I just added then link to retrofiting the indirect tyre pressure monitoring system.  :wink:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/how-retrofit-indirect-tire-pressure-monitoring-5-minutes-7k6-50164.html

You will need the Set button in the glovebox to recalibrate it otherwise you have to use the VCDS to do it.

Pushbutton switch for tyre pressure warning centre console black/white

1k0 927 121 C REH - £15.45

or for glovebox switch

1K0 927 121 B REH - £15.45

but I don't know how you get the switch loom?


That was the orignal question of this thread which was answered back on Reply 2 by SteveP
Snoopy had already linked to the VCDS procedure on Reply 11.

Why have have you just repeated what everyone else has already said, maybe it was just to summarise the thread   :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mortygt140 on 29 November 2010, 14:32
Has Snoopy said I have done his many moons ago, its very easy to do and the hardest part of it is getting the plug out of the abs module :sad:

In all its quite a good little mod, but don't rely on it cos its not the most accurate thing.

Darren
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 29 November 2010, 17:43
Has Snoopy said I have done his many moons ago, its very easy to do and the hardest part of it is getting the plug out of the abs module :sad:

In all its quite a good little mod, but don't rely on it cos its not the most accurate thing.

Darren
I did yes and linked to the thread.
Its the first post on page 2. :smiley:

In responce to the other posts
I would much rather do it properly and install the switch too so its very OEM.

I also found were i had seen the kit for sale i asked about for retrofit.
Its on the link for that VWwatercooled site.
http://kufatec.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_153&products_id=1047
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 29 January 2011, 21:28
Finally got around to getting TPMS wiring loom and switch installed.

All in not a bad job just a bit fiddly getting the wire through to the ABS controller.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3398.jpg)

(Button is now aligned properly too before you all comment  :tongue:)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 29 January 2011, 21:31
Any chance of a write up  please  :smiley:
Thanks
Geoff.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 29 January 2011, 21:33
Soon.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 29 January 2011, 21:34
Thanks  :cool:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 29 January 2011, 21:35
Great stuff Steve, I'd be interested in this as well..
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: GolfTi on 29 January 2011, 21:41
Mines in the glove box (Sept 09).

I had this on the mk5 as well, the reason they moved it from the centre console is to stop you accidentally pressing it while changing the ACC or switching ESP off.

Worked well on my mk5, I had a nail in a tyre and it triggered the warning. To look at the tyre was fine but on closer inspection I found a small nail in the inner tyrewall
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 29 January 2011, 21:45
Here's a bit more detail.

Basically it can be installed without cutting any wires you only need to run one wire from the swtich up to the ABS controller behind the battery.

The other connections can all be taken from the ESP swtich and using a combo of pre-made wires and a couple of connector housing it will look something like this: -

Wires taken out of the ESP switch into another connector housing

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3383.jpg)

New loom reconnected to ESP swtich to "pick-up" the required power/signal's

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3384.jpg)

All complete and looking OEM (other than I only had black cable ties and OEM fit is clear)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3395.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 06 February 2011, 10:42
So how much for the parts?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mac7 on 06 February 2011, 13:57
The first Mk6's had the TPM switch in the far right end position - anyone know the p/n for that switch, with curved corners?

Steve, would it be possible for you tell us what the connector p/n's are and give a wiring guide to the ESP switch?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 06 February 2011, 14:05
I think the switch is listed on page 2 of this thread.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Keithuk on 06 February 2011, 16:32
I think the switch is listed on page 2 of this thread.
Correct Snoopy.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mac7 on 06 February 2011, 16:43
I think the switch is listed on page 2 of this thread.
Correct Snoopy.

Thanks. I want to keep it as far away from the ACC button as possible.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 06 February 2011, 21:21
Funny you should mention the switch location, I corrected mine today   :cool:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3440.jpg)

I have ordered the parts to make another kit so will be doing a write up shortly, if anyone wants the resulting kit at cost price then let me know  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 06 February 2011, 21:29
What we talking cost wise? :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 06 February 2011, 21:30
Will confirm tomorrow, probably around £32 inc the switch  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 06 February 2011, 21:47
I have ordered the parts to make another kit so will be doing a write up shortly, if anyone wants the resulting kit at cost price then let me know  :smiley:
I'll take it at cost Steve if the offers still open :smiley:
Thanks
Geoff.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 07 February 2011, 10:46
^^^ You have first refusal  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: am1w on 07 February 2011, 10:56
^^^ You have first refusal  :smiley:

Is it very difficult to fit, Steve?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: DRC on 07 February 2011, 23:24
Yeah, I'd be interested too, if you could do a full write up and pictures to show connection to the ABS switch that would be brill :)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 12 February 2011, 21:43
Loom complete, write up in production  :cool:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/5510c946.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 12 February 2011, 21:48
Very neat job as usual Steve, how much, definitely interested.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 12 February 2011, 21:54
Looking like I can ship a full kit for around £34, so around £16 cheaper than Kufatec  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 12 February 2011, 21:56
Put me down for one  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: DRC on 12 February 2011, 22:24
And myself if it's easy to wire up to the ABS sensor! Can't wait for the write up Steve :)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 13 February 2011, 09:12
I was wondering why the lead was so long. I see you answered it in your original post. I will wake up later  :grin:

Here's a bit more detail.

Basically it can be installed without cutting any wires you only need to run one wire from the swtich up to the ABS controller behind the battery.

The other connections can all be taken from the ESP swtich and using a combo of pre-made wires and a couple of connector housing it will look something like this: -

Wires taken out of the ESP switch into another connector housing

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3383.jpg)

New loom reconnected to ESP swtich to "pick-up" the required power/signal's

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3384.jpg)

All complete and looking OEM (other than I only had black cable ties and OEM fit is clear)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF3395.jpg)
Looking like I can ship a full kit for around £34, so around £16 cheaper than Kufatec  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 14 February 2011, 20:37
Also mocked up the glovebox install today, that works just the same just with a longer cable and a more involved install, as the glovebox needs to be removed.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 14 February 2011, 23:56
Steve

How do you get the cable to the ABS controller behind the battery?

Is there a grommets/access point in the bulkhead?

Thanks
Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 15 February 2011, 09:08
^^^ Yep there is a grommit behind the ABS controller that go through the bulkhead to glovebox area.

It will be covered in my guide  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 15 February 2011, 14:44
^^^ Yep there is a grommit behind the ABS controller that go through the bulkhead to glovebox area.

It will be covered in my guide  :smiley:

Thanks Steve

Do you need a different switch (cover) to place it on the RHS as it has 2 rounded corners rather than all 4 squared off?

If you are doing a few sets would you put me down for one please (with 2 rounded corners!)

thanks
Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 15 February 2011, 15:53
^^^ Check the pic a the top of the page, if shows the correct button for the RHS install with the rounded edged, the first button I got was for the glovebox (or Mk5) install.

I am ready to make another order so if you want a kit then drop me a PM.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 15 February 2011, 19:12
Thanks for clarifying Steve <goes and gets glasses>

I've sent you a PM

Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 28 February 2011, 22:34
Hi Steve

Got mine today  :smiley:

How's the write up coming on - itchy to get it installed

thanks again
Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: oldman on 28 February 2011, 23:05
Hi Steve  +1
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: DRC on 28 February 2011, 23:50
+2 :)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 01 March 2011, 07:50
I expect it will be added to his thread on his forum
http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,123.0.html
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 01 March 2011, 07:59
It will be but in this thread - http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,123.0.html  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 03 March 2011, 20:51
Thanks Steve

Might get chance to have a go at this, this coming weekend
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Keithuk on 04 March 2011, 16:47
It will be but in this thread - http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,123.0.html  :smiley:
Nice one Steve but what coding did you do in VCDS?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 04 March 2011, 18:19
It will be but in this thread - http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,123.0.html  :smiley:
Nice one Steve but what coding did you do in VCDS?
Have a look at the second post on the second page of this thread. All coding is listed in the link i posted.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Keithuk on 04 March 2011, 19:05
It will be but in this thread - http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,123.0.html  :smiley:
Nice one Steve but what coding did you do in VCDS?
Have a look at the second post on the second page of this thread. All coding is listed in the link i posted.
Yes I read Just connect that and coding? but it doesn't tell me anything about coding thats why I asked?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 04 March 2011, 19:15
It will be but in this thread - http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,123.0.html  :smiley:
Nice one Steve but what coding did you do in VCDS?
Have a look at the second post on the second page of this thread. All coding is listed in the link i posted.
Yes I read Just connect that and coding? but it doesn't tell me anything about coding thats why I asked?


I ment this post below  :smiley:

There is also
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/how-retrofit-indirect-tire-pressure-monitoring-5-minutes-7k6-50164.html



Basically
ABS controller > Coding > Long Coding Helper > and toggle byte 16, bit 2 ON.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 04 March 2011, 20:59
Guide is now 95% complete.

I have one more kit made up and ready to go if anyone if interested. Also have a full set of door warning lights as well  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 04 March 2011, 21:11
If anyone is wondering, I can vouch for the quality of the looms that Steve has made - look very professional and quality workmanship (although I do have to fit yet  :rolleyes:)


Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 04 March 2011, 21:15
Guide is now 95% complete.

I have one more kit made up and ready to go if anyone if interested. Also have a full set of door warning lights as well  :smiley:

Just seen this Steve. What price would that be and is it a full set for a 3-door or a 5-door?

Thanks
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 04 March 2011, 21:16
Thanks for the positive comments  :smiley:

It's a 5 door kit, £62 delivered.

Instructions can be found here (http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,124.0.html)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Keithuk on 05 March 2011, 00:21
Cheers Snoopy.  :wink:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 05 March 2011, 18:36
Thanks for the positive comments  :smiley:
It's a 5 door kit, £62 delivered.
Instructions can be found here (http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,124.0.html)

Thanks Steve

Going to leave for now as there are other mods calling for my cash  :wink:
I've just fitted the switch and connectors/wires into the centre console - just need to feed the wire from there up the back of the glove box and into the ABS now (oh and coding!)

Q: Do you remove one of the side panels on the centre console in the footwell to get to the wire and 'pull through' ?

PS where can you buy the fabric tape you use please?

Cheers
Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Snoopy on 05 March 2011, 18:38
PS where can you buy the fabric tape you use please?
VW dealer.
000 979 950  Webbing Adhesive (10M)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 05 March 2011, 18:40
PS where can you buy the fabric tape you use please?
VW dealer.
000 979 950  Webbing Adhesive (10M)

Thanks Geoff  :cool:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 05 March 2011, 21:29
Buck, I didn't need to remove the side panels, I found you could feed the wire behind the trim and cable tie it to the ducting for the footwell vents.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 05 March 2011, 23:48
Thanks Steve,

Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: 09GTI on 19 November 2011, 11:16
Hi Steve,
Are you still able to supply the switch and loom for the TPMS ?
Thanks
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: SteveP on 19 November 2011, 11:35
Yep, once your up to 10 posts then PM me  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: The Doc on 19 November 2011, 11:49
Some more group buys?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: 09GTI on 19 November 2011, 12:43
Cool Steve will do I'm nearly there !
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Jimmymature on 19 November 2011, 13:16
Some more group buys?

What sort of price would this be?



Cheers,


Jim
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 27 June 2012, 01:24
As some know, I've not been able to use my reset button in the centre console to remove the dash warning light.

At my last service i asked them just to reset the warning but no, they said it was a faulty switch :( VW replaced TP switch today to no joy and then spent 30 minutes trying to find why it still won't reset.

Tonight I removed all the cloth tape from the harness and checked all wiring back to SteveP's original wiring explanation - check!  I then checked all the connections to make sure they were sound - check!

Sam (Branchespark) has lent me his VCDS cable so again I checked that the coding was enabled - check!

Still can't reset it from the switch :angry:  any ideas before I just turn the thing off to prevent future warning lights appearing?

Cheers
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 27 June 2012, 08:51
In VCDS you should be able to go into one of the measurement blocks in the ABS controller and see the switch output.
Pushing the switch then should toggle the output form open to closed, not sure where it is but I will have a look later for you.

This will confirm that it is is the right pin on the ABS controller and that the switch is working.

Does the backlight work ok on the switch when the lights are on ?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 27 June 2012, 09:29
Thanks Mike

The backlight works ok.

The warning light triggered twice - once when I put my winter wheels on then when I swapped back to the summers so it appears to be able to identify the change in rolling circumference/speed and turn on the warning. It just doesn't want to reset.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 27 June 2012, 18:37
Here is the place to check the TPMS Button.

You need to go into the ABS controller, then measuring blocks and go to block 16 and hit GO.
When you press the button you should see the NOT Oper.  toggle to Operate.

(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/abs/abs1.jpg)

Also just to make sure that the coding is correct I have included mine as there are two places for TPMS, BYTE 16 and BYTE 17.
Only BYTE 16 being correct.


(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/abs/abs2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 27 June 2012, 20:44
Thanks Mike

Just in from work so will have a look after food !!

Adrian
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 27 June 2012, 22:22
Hi

Just checked mine and when I press the switch - nothing happens

I have swapped it with the ESP switch and nothing from that either so it's clearly a circuit issue or something "bigger"

Any thoughts/ideas?

Thanks
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 27 June 2012, 22:59
It looks like the wire between the switch and the pin in the ABS controller is not connected,

Did you check the connector at the controller end in case the pin has not located properly?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 27 June 2012, 23:01
No I didn't.  Battery out tomorrow night and I'll take a look.

For some reason I've now got my ESP;ABS and TPMS lights flashing on the dfash and can't clear them  :sad:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 27 June 2012, 23:32
Hmmm

I noticed today that the warning light (TPMS) was flashing for a few seconds then goes constant. I've run a diagnostics tonight and the following are showing.
Not sure what I've done but I've got a few errors showing now?

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AH    HW: 1K0 907 379 AH
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107 
   Revision: 00H30001   
   Coding: 163B600D092200FB681206EA901A0082340800
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 78FA6505CBC86A9

1 Fault Found:
01486 - System Function Test Activated
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 50614 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.04
                    Time: 23:15:51

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 6
                    Count: 20480
                    Count: 320
                    Count: 41472
                    Count: 512
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 C    HW: 1K0 937 086 C
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   103 0573 
   Revision: 00103 AF   
   Coding: 48180A389025F1C044080080340001E443500088532D8160E48000200000
   Shop #: WSC 07097 500 00200
   VCID: 306A9D256338729

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 13100  21  0512
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 271009 05  54  0402
   Coding: 0730AD

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005

3 Faults Found:
00907 - Intervention load Management
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 50614 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.04
                    Time: 23:15:18

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.50 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 50614 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.04
                    Time: 23:20:50

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.35 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00985 - Right Tail Light (M2)
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 50614 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.04
                    Time: 23:20:50

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.35 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 970 E    HW: 5K6 920 970 E
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0305 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170B00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3666AB3D895C5C9

1 Fault Found:
12658432 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 50614 km
                    Date: 2030.14.04
                    Time: 23:14:41


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0111 
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 221009F2001111
   Coding: E9807F07400612000003
   Shop #: WSC 07097 500 00200
   VCID: 69DC30414062C31

1 Fault Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 50614 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.04
                    Time: 23:14:08


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Any advice / pointers gents?
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 28 June 2012, 08:49
Looks like this may be a result of removing the the ESP switch with the iginition on.
TPMS error is due to enabling the other TPMS system at some time.
The load intervention happens if the ignition has been on for a while or the doors open it usually clears itself.
Not sure what the instruments one is but looks like it only happened once so may be just a blip.

I would just clear the errors down and see if they come back.

You may have to drive the car forward a bit and brake to get the ABS to reset.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 28 June 2012, 19:13
Thanks Mike

I've managed to finally sort it - looks like a loose connection in the ABS controller in the engine bay

I'm still left with one error which is the ABS Function Test - I need to take the car on a drive at 13mph and turn the steering between 90 and 180 degrees for it to reset this

~Fingers crossed - update to follow <crosses fingers>


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AH    HW: 1K0 907 379 AH
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107 
   Revision: 00H30001   
   Coding: 163B600D092200FB681206EA901A0082340000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 78FA6505CBC86A9

1 Fault Found:
01486 - System Function Test Activated
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 186
                    Mileage: 50674 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.05
                    Time: 18:42:42

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 20480
                    Count: 320
                    Count: 42240
                    Count: 64768
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: ScottA on 28 June 2012, 19:50
Thanks Mike

I've managed to finally sort it - looks like a loose connection in the ABS controller in the engine bay

I'm still left with one error which is the ABS Function Test - I need to take the car on a drive at 13mph and turn the steering between 90 and 180 degrees for it to reset this

~Fingers crossed - update to follow <crosses fingers>


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AH    HW: 1K0 907 379 AH
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107 
   Revision: 00H30001   
   Coding: 163B600D092200FB681206EA901A0082340000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 78FA6505CBC86A9

1 Fault Found:
01486 - System Function Test Activated
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 186
                    Mileage: 50674 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.05
                    Time: 18:42:42

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 20480
                    Count: 320
                    Count: 42240
                    Count: 64768
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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13mph, that's very precise!
Do you have to do it with one finger on your nose and blindfolded too? lol

Good luck  :cool:
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 28 June 2012, 20:01
^^ I didn't mention that you have to roll your trouser leg up too!

Bit exact is what I thought too - apparantly its equal to 20kmh !!

Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 28 June 2012, 20:17
Good news  :smiley:

I think the last time I did this  I had barely gone more than 5 miles an hour, full left, full right, hit the brake and the lights went out.
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: Buck on 28 June 2012, 22:03
Well I tried allsorts of manouvres - took me a few places to find a car park big enough!!

Brake pedal pushed hard until ESP and ABS light flash alternate

Drive at 13mph  :shocked: then a steady 10mph whilst trying to do between quarter/half turn without hitting anything!


So if you saw some silly bu99er driving slowly around Morrison's car park doing silly turns, stopping then doing it again, that was me!!  :grin: :grin: :grin:

For the first time since about October, my dash has no warnign lights showing  :smiley:

Thanks for your help Mike - helped me sort it and I've learnt a few things along the way
Title: Re: Tyre switch/harness retrofit kit from?
Post by: mike. on 28 June 2012, 22:23
Quote from: Buck
So if you saw some silly bu99er driving slowly around Morrison's car park doing silly turns, stopping then doing it again, that was me!!   

 :laugh:

Great news glad to be of help  :smiley: