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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: andc1 on 28 November 2010, 15:04

Title: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 28 November 2010, 15:04
ok seen this on the bay, what ya recon ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190450012623&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: s-l-i-x on 28 November 2010, 17:14
I've got it, and really pleased with it! Sounds awesome too.

People on here are gonna say beware of deep puddles, but ive never had a problem.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Wazzzer on 28 November 2010, 17:15
got a carbonio on mine but considering going back to standard air box as it's a bit loud lol
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 28 November 2010, 19:06
I take it there easy to fit? any pipes to be blocked off? what's with the smaller filter in the pic?
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: simon20vt on 28 November 2010, 23:30
isn't that a bit cheap? £39.99 for a CAI, look at any other products such as K&N or Carbonio, and you'll pay £100 odd extra. Would be interesting if someone had tried both of these to compare the difference. A pipercross panel filter will set you back about 30 quid, so for a tenner extra, why aren't everyone buying these ebay CAI kits if they are any good?  :undecided:

you know what people say, you get what you pay for. Guess its worth taking a punt though for that price to see if it is any good. are you running a stock air filter now? maybe you could try a pipercross panel filter, and then the ebay CAI to see what the difference is. If you decide to stick with the CAI after, i'll even buy the pipercross panel filter from you for £30 (pretty much what you'd pay for it new so you don't lose any money) providing it came in the original packaging   :smiley:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Cunning stunT on 28 November 2010, 23:49
The puddle would have to come up to your headlight to immerse it as that is where the intake is.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: s-l-i-x on 29 November 2010, 10:02
The puddle would have to come up to your headlight to immerse it as that is where the intake is.

Not that kiit, it runs near the bottom bumper vent.

I ran a pipercross panel filter before I got one of those induction kits above, and no loss in power and no gains really, just love the sound. Not too loud.

The smaller filter is just another breather I think, I just blocked mine up with a rubber bung and clip as a small amount of engine heat was being drawn in.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: simon20vt on 29 November 2010, 12:51
so do you have to be rather careful with puddles/how deep they are? E.g - chav at the side of the road by a very tempting puddle to soak him, but you have to avoid it due to the CAI being quite low? what would you do if the whole road was flooded width ways with an inch or so, would you be able to cross but very slowly so not to suck up water?
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Waffs1984 on 29 November 2010, 12:54
I've run one of these on my car for the past 2 years wtih no problems whatsoever. The only thing r-tech mentioned when i took my car in for a remap was that the filter was getting a bit cruddy and could do with replacing which i am getting onto this xmas.

As for puddles, yeah it would have to be DEEP. My car is sensibly lowered approx 40mm and to touch the filter i have to kneel on the floor and put my hand up under the passenger side bumper a fair way. Just think of it as the bottom of the filter will sit where your lower bumper vent sits, its not that close to the ground  :grin:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: topher on 29 November 2010, 12:58
a bit of splash on the filter won't hurt it, as long as it doesn't get fully submerged. There's nothing wrong with these kits though, i can probably do them a little bit cheaper i just never bothered with them because

a) people dont like "unbranded" performance parts
b) it looks a bit chavvy
c) as mentioned before they are suspiciously cheap compared to the branded ones which puts people off.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: simon20vt on 29 November 2010, 13:02
hmmm maybe i might invest in one myself soon :)

i don't think it looks a bit chavvy, what looks chavvy about them?
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: topher on 29 November 2010, 13:03
maybe its just me then, i dislike shiny stuff :laugh:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: daz veedub on 29 November 2010, 15:58
ive got this on mine ended up cutting it down so filter sits at side of battery, when it rains water did splash up at filter hence y chopped it sounds sweet aswell  :smiley:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 29 November 2010, 17:28
yea im thinking of chopping the pipe shorter to sit with battery, not liking the idea of filter by bumper! its only pipe work the end of the day so why pay £100+ for a kit when you have it there?! maybe a better filter on the end maybe, sod im buying one!!!!! not sure where that smaller filter goes tho??
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: topher on 29 November 2010, 17:34
Small filter is to put on the end of the SAI pump pipe that normally goes to the airbox. Applies to the ARZ/AUM/AUQ only obviously.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: MickeyC on 29 November 2010, 17:38
my Jabbasport induction was fitted in 2002 so im gonna replace the cone filter and the little breather this week, ive heart Jetex cones are good
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 29 November 2010, 17:41
so i wont need the smaller filter on my agu?
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: s-l-i-x on 29 November 2010, 17:43
so i wont need the smaller filter on my agu?

You can put the smaller filter on yeah, it comes with it. Or you can bung the hole up.. Up to you.

I found it a bit louder without the hole bunged up and the smaller filter on too.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: MickeyC on 29 November 2010, 17:45
mines an AGU and i have the little filter

(http://i30.tinypic.com/es120w.jpg)
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: topher on 29 November 2010, 17:48
mines an AGU and i have the little filter

(http://i30.tinypic.com/es120w.jpg)

if that's an AGU, where's the throttle cable? oopsie, did you think you had an AGU all this time? :grin:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: MickeyC on 29 November 2010, 17:56
if that's an AGU, where's the throttle cable? oopsie, did you think you had an AGU all this time? :grin:

huh ?  :shocked: :grin:

how do i tell then , i was told it was 230 bhp when i bought it but only made 195bhp at awsome on the dyno
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: topher on 29 November 2010, 17:59
if you peek under the front left corner plastic screw that holds the engine cover on, you should see 3 letters stamped on to a tag sticking out from the head. On an X plate its difficult to tell if it's ARZ or AUM from the picture. ARZ should have bolt down type coilpacks but they usually get replaced with push-in ones. If it's ARZ then your power is about right, if it's AUM then you're missing some ponies.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: MickeyC on 29 November 2010, 18:03
just checked in my service history and its an AUM  :grin: i dont know why i always though AGU  :lipsrsealed:

does that mean i have a ko3s ?  hmmm it was advertised at 230bhp , so im missing at least 30 horses

i might have to get a Re-remap (if that word exists) :lol:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: simon20vt on 29 November 2010, 18:41
yes, all AUM's have a KO3s, so i guess you are missing some hp! As yours is a very early AUM, i have heard that there is a small chance it uses the KO3, not sure how much truth there is in that though. Mine is a Y plate AUM, and i have a KO3s... Easy way to tell, get under the car, have a look at the turbo and count how many fins/blade the turbo has, if you have 12 - KO3, if you have 8 - KO3s then get it checked out and see why you haven't got more BHP!!

Then you can consider your Re-remap  :laugh:

speak to Nick at R-tech, if he has a look at it, i'm sure he'll be able to tell you whats up, have you got VAGCOM, if you have, plug it in see if it throws up any fault codes, if not i'm sure a local mechanic will have a universal diagnostics reader, the fault should still show up.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Dave_IOW on 30 November 2010, 18:22
these CAI's are absolutely fine, although im going to cut my pipe so filter ends up next to battery aswell :afro:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: munks on 30 November 2010, 20:45
I got one! cut it down so sits behind the battery!
Sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: tech1889 on 30 November 2010, 20:51
my typhoon is in 2 pieces so in winter i can put behind battery and summer behind bumper  :laugh:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: tg1 on 30 November 2010, 22:20
i took mine off for the winter as it was wet when i removed it, but i did also cut the passenger side vent a little at the blanked off bits to give it a little more air  :rolleyes: so maybe it was getting extra wet because of that? wouldn't of thought it made much difference though to be honest

my yaris had a typhoon, the lad i bought it off flooded his engine and once dried out it was fine, never had a problem with it on mine, and it was on for like 2 years/20k but that did have a doody little sock cover that was useful and the filter was MAhoosive for a 1.5

dont drive in deep puddles, as in more than an inch or 3 if you can help it and you'll be fine

bad idea if you live in a flood plain  :wink:

Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 06 December 2010, 15:45
ok received this today and can i just ask those of you that has this kit is the big pipe polished? as mine doesnt seem to be!
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Waffs1984 on 06 December 2010, 16:35
Yeah mine was polished  :huh:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Coolbreeze on 06 December 2010, 18:34
I had a little enquiry that fits in with the theme of this thread so I might aswell ask it here.

I would just like to clarify what differentiates a CAI to a normal induction kit if there is infact any difference. To my very limited understanding, the only difference would be that a CAI kit comes with a longer pipe so that the filter sits as close to the 'cold side' as possible?

So if I had a 'normal' K&N induction kit, but extended it to the reach the colder side, it would then be a Cold air intake?

Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 06 December 2010, 18:40
yep pretty much, im going to cut my pipe so in the winter it sits by the battery then in the simmer i will join the pipes up and have it running behind front bumper!
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: cullygti on 06 December 2010, 20:02
i got a short pipe ram air kit on my 1.8t and its working fine for me chaps  :smiley:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 11 December 2010, 16:10
for those of you that have purchased this kit, mine turned up and my main big pipe isnt really as polished as the actual filter? anyone else kit like this?

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv25/scoobygolf/SDC11752.jpg)
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: tech1889 on 12 December 2010, 10:20
Looks like brushed aluminium  :grin:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: houston on 12 December 2010, 11:46
looks better than polished i reckon, get some fine grade wet and dry and make it look more brushed
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: iceman130577 on 12 December 2010, 14:08
i also got one of these fitted and it does sound awesome why pay an extra £60 for  branded one if it bothers you that much buy a kn badge like i did u cant see ther filter anyway who,s to know  :laugh:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: tech1889 on 12 December 2010, 14:11
my KnN has a badge on the top pipe so people no you are cool  :cool:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 12 December 2010, 19:15
my thoughts exactly!!! why pay so much for the same thing with a flash bit of writing!!!! g werks gave me a sticker on last visit so that will go on!!!!
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Cunning stunT on 16 December 2010, 11:11
Anyone got any pictures of this fitted please please as i can't see for love nor money how the cold air feed pipe orientates?!!   :shocked: :undecided:
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 16 December 2010, 11:35
fitting now mate so i'll wack some up!
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Cunning stunT on 16 December 2010, 11:41
Cheers dude, ur a star!!! I put the cone directly onto the maf and it sounds really good!!
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 16 December 2010, 13:48
there you go mate, i ended up lobbing the end pipe off and putting filter behind battery, its too low for me behind bumper in the winter months as where i am theres loads of water! in the summer i'll just connect the pipe back up and then run it behind bumper

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv25/scoobygolf/IMG_0402-1.jpg)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv25/scoobygolf/IMG_0403-1.jpg)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv25/scoobygolf/IMG_0405.jpg)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv25/scoobygolf/IMG_0406.jpg)

just remeber if yours has a igntion booster thingy stick it to the cold air feed pipe as these get hot and burn out!

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv25/scoobygolf/IMG_0404.jpg)
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Cunning stunT on 16 December 2010, 13:52
Aaaaaaa you've used the short pipe, i was gonna use the long one, found a guide to fit it now!! cheers anyways!
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: andc1 on 16 December 2010, 13:53
wheres ya guide mate? link?
Title: Re: air induction kits
Post by: Cunning stunT on 16 December 2010, 15:19
Its not the exact same kit but its extremely similar! at the bottom of the page download the instructions!
http://www.gti-bits.co.uk/evom-golf-turbo-filters.htm