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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: savvasa on 28 November 2010, 00:49

Title: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 28 November 2010, 00:49
Morning all.

So as the title says, Im looking to buy an induction kit, something that gives both a power increase and a sound upgrade, but leaning more towards the sound.

Ive seen this pipercross one on Awesome's site http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=23268 which doesnt look like a bad price after some hunting around the net.

Also, found this vid on youtube which is a pretty good example of the noise im looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXkZxooRdQk

I dont want to spend a bomb, so i guess the EVOMs and Fordges are out, but any advice or suggestions would be great!

cheers again,

Sav
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: garrardrj on 29 November 2010, 13:17
Well to get an induction kit?
My son has a Golf as i do. He got an induction kit for the sound/slight power increase. Paid about £200. Made the car run terribly and he took it off. It sits in our garage.....used for about 2/3 months. Money wasted.

The car is a MK4 1.4 though!..........he's only 18...........its For Sale £80....Typhoon

I would say that being 47 i've bin there done that. Do not put a induction kit on unless you are going to tune the engine to take account of more air getting in. Just to put on a kit for noise is a waste of money.

The one on my old MK3 VR6 was great though :drool:
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: AlanD on 29 November 2010, 18:16
If your limiting your budget to £200 and you want that sound then I'd have thought thats the one to get, bare in mind your car wont sound like the one in the video. Ive got this one http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=5713&xSec=151 which not only lets you keep your engine cover on but imo looks better, you wont get that sound though.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: musicman87 on 29 November 2010, 18:26
If your limiting your budget to £200 and you want that sound that the only one to get, bare in mind your car wont sound like the one in the video. Ive got this one http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=5713&xSec=151 which not only lets you keep your engine cover on but imo looks better, you wont get that sound though.

How does the sound change with this one, if at all?
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: AlanD on 29 November 2010, 18:29
The one I have doesnt really change it much at all to be honest, you do get a bit more of a "sucking" noise but not much. Ive had it in so long now I forgot what it sounded like before :D

If you want your car to sound nice you cant beat a Milltek which is what dominates my car soundtrack.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 29 November 2010, 19:05
Cheers Alan, I've seen this one banded about quite a bit, but I'm still not sure if its what I'm looking for.

Any chance you (or anyone else with this filter) could take a bit of vid or a sound clip or what it sounds like? Dont worry if its too much hassle.

Thanks.

If your limiting your budget to £200 and you want that sound then I'd have thought thats the one to get, bare in mind your car wont sound like the one in the video. Ive got this one http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=5713&xSec=151 which not only lets you keep your engine cover on but imo looks better, you wont get that sound though.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 29 November 2010, 19:09
hey

this is another one forge do... i got this about 5 months ago and it gives a fairly loud induction noise but from the turbo i.e. sucking. Matched with the forge up rated dv its great.... the reason why you cant get that noise like the fiesta is because the induction noise has to cover half a mile before getting to the source of inlet with having the turbo intercooler and pipes and so on. also depends on the design of the manifold. Its more a loud sucking noise followed by a loud dump of air by the dv... ill video mine tomorrow and try get a clip up for you......

http://www.amdessex.com/product.details.cfm?ProductID=3897&VariantID=76&ReferenceID=11049
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 29 November 2010, 19:13
Thanks Trick, good info there.

Thats a nice looking bit of kit from AmD there. They are only up the road from me which is always good!

Is that what you have in your GTI Trick? Thanks for the vid, that would be great.

Cheers

hey

this is another one forge do... i got this about 5 months ago and it gives a fairly loud induction noise but from the turbo i.e. sucking. Matched with the forge up rated dv its great.... the reason why you cant get that noise like the fiesta is because the induction noise has to cover half a mile before getting to the source of inlet with having the turbo intercooler and pipes and so on. also depends on the design of the manifold. Its more a loud sucking noise followed by a loud dump of air by the dv... ill video mine tomorrow and try get a clip up for you......

http://www.amdessex.com/product.details.cfm?ProductID=3897&VariantID=76&ReferenceID=11049
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 29 November 2010, 19:22
no problem mate  :smiley: ....

yea its what iv got fitted. still a quality product from forge but not as expensive as the twintake. i was shocked with how loud it was when i fitted it but have not looked back since .....

nice bit of bling for the engine bay to  :smiley:

downsides :

sits behind the passenger side front fog light and the noise it makes sounds like its sucking the road clean ha but iv drove it in very very very wet conditions and its being fine so no problems..

cant have oem engine cover on with it but yet again im not bothered by that...
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 30 November 2010, 12:29
Is it a Forge? it doesnt mention it on the site  :undecided: either way, its sounds like it is just what I am looking for.

Im not fussed about losing the OEM engine cover, and even if it does start to bug me, there are a few covers that I can get.

Hows that vid coming along Trick... I'm thinking about booking the car in to get the cam belt and water bottle done this weekend, so I might get the induction kit at the same time if the sound is right  :evil:

Cheers again

Sav

no problem mate  :smiley: ....

yea its what iv got fitted. still a quality product from forge but not as expensive as the twintake. i was shocked with how loud it was when i fitted it but have not looked back since .....

nice bit of bling for the engine bay to  :smiley:

downsides :

sits behind the passenger side front fog light and the noise it makes sounds like its sucking the road clean ha but iv drove it in very very very wet conditions and its being fine so no problems..

cant have oem engine cover on with it but yet again im not bothered by that...
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 30 November 2010, 12:40
I'm pretty sure it is all the pipework has forge all over it and amd sell it and there a good company so it's not a cheap knock off job.

Shall get the video sorted tonight for you bud.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: AlanEdition30 on 30 November 2010, 14:59
savvasa what replacement engine covers are availiable? Im tempted to put an induction kit on mine but without a replacement cover the engine does look very ugly..
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: garrardrj on 30 November 2010, 19:47
same here........the engine bay without the cover is not for me. Any induction kit for the ED30 which doesn't need this removed will be on my xmas list  :grin:
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: AlanD on 30 November 2010, 19:56
hey

this is another one forge do... i got this about 5 months ago and it gives a fairly loud induction noise but from the turbo i.e. sucking. Matched with the forge up rated dv its great.... the reason why you cant get that noise like the fiesta is because the induction noise has to cover half a mile before getting to the source of inlet with having the turbo intercooler and pipes and so on. also depends on the design of the manifold. Its more a loud sucking noise followed by a loud dump of air by the dv... ill video mine tomorrow and try get a clip up for you......

http://www.amdessex.com/product.details.cfm?ProductID=3897&VariantID=76&ReferenceID=11049

As much as people say "I've driven it for months in the wet" blah blah Ive personally see someone completely ruin their engine by sucking up water and would NEVER risk my engine with an induction kit like that. The gain of not really that much performance is just not worth the risk in my opinion.

Just my 2 pence worth.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 30 November 2010, 21:13
Unless you drive through deep water so that the filter is actually in water or have a duct for air pointing straight at it then I'm 100% sure it will be fine I check mine often as I like to know it's alright and it's fine everytime. In my opinion the ones that sit behind the grill at the top will get as much if not more water into the induction system as this is where water vapour gets to first whilst driving. Most oem set ups are actually taken from the wheel arch liner where the one I have sits.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 30 November 2010, 21:19
Also it's about 10 feet deep In snow outside mine so not manged to get a video sorted I'll do one at dinner break tomorrow and get a outside and inside one :smiley:
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 01 December 2010, 17:59
iv managed to get some videos sorted with my trusty i phone so quality wont be great but you can hear it alright so ill get them on here once they are up....
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 01 December 2010, 18:02
cheers Trick... hope you didnt get too cold!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 01 December 2010, 18:23
heres the first  :smiley:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/th_Picture031.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/?action=view&current=Picture031.mp4)

let me know what you think  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 01 December 2010, 18:25
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/th_Picture035.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/?action=view&current=Picture035.mp4)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/th_Picture033.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/?action=view&current=Picture033.mp4)

inside ones
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 01 December 2010, 18:28
OMG I WANT I WANT I WANT...

Trick that sounds amazing, have you got a dump valve on there as well?
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 01 December 2010, 18:31
yea its the forge one  :grin: its so much better in person. i promise you wont be dissapointed im not i love it and everyone who hears it loves it.... it makes the best noise when under load i.e 3rd 4th gear 2000rpm foot to floor wait till till 4000 let off sounds brilliant....
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 01 December 2010, 18:46
just found this!!! this is a good pic to show where it sits behind the fog light

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/trick206/Golf/IMG_0677.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: savvasa on 01 December 2010, 19:33
jeez man! how do you check that to make sure its not damaged?
Title: Re: Thinking about buying an induction kit...
Post by: TrickGTI on 01 December 2010, 19:43
easy weezy if you get a jack you can lift the front corner up and remove the 8 screws for the under tray and take it off to clean and check. its never dirty when i take it off you could go a good 6000 miles id day without haveing to check it. iv got a ramp at work so only takes me 10 mins  :grin: