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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: coopers03 on 23 November 2010, 20:24
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Hi all,
I have a golf gti 8v which i am currently started to use for track with a few friends with the same cars. Now i have around 700-800 quid to spend on engine mod's have induction and exhaust already now just wondering if anyone will no what i can get done for this and any places would be a great help.
Thanks
Steve
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I think cams should be next, best to speak to khare about it as he's done it. Have you got the suspension and brakes sorted cos there isnt much you can do with an 8v engine so Id concentrate on them!
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Sell it and buy a 16v instead :wink:
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Sell it and buy a 16v instead :wink:
Yep.
Even if you throw £700 at your 8v the gains will be small.
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Sell it and buy a 16v instead :wink:
Yep.
Even if you throw £700 at your 8v the gains will be small.
Even £700 at an ABF won't see you particularly big gains, but at least it's a better base than an 8v :grin:
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Standard answer on here - 'sell it and buy a 16v' :rolleyes:
I would spend the money getting the basic engine mods done and then sort the handling. This could be done within your budget. Then strip all of the unnecessary weight out of it and have some track fun! It wont be as quick as a 16v but it will still be fun!
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Yup agreed with the people above.
Better off spending on a 16v. If engine has to be 8v, I'd leave it well alone and spend all my money on a decent set of shocks and springs, polybushes and decent tyres. Over the course of a lap you'll see a bigger gain compared to spending 700 on engine mods.
Believe me, a good handling 8v with decent brakes will outperform a standard 16v around the track.
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Standard answer on here - 'sell it and buy a 16v' :rolleyes:
Not really but it makes the most sense, spend £700 and you will still not have the power of the ABF plus with it reving higher it suits a track better.
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buy a supercharger
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You have two options..
1. spend the money on cams and a remap and then some decent shocks and springs. Even then, you will still be underpowered compared to a standard 16v ABF
2. Sell the 8v buy a decent 16v ABF and do alll the above, should see some gains and it will more then you would get from the 8v also costing around the same.
In thoery, the money spent on the 16v compared to the 8v would more or less the same if you were to do simular mods. The gains however would be much more in favour of the 16v
Khare is a good example as he cammed his 8v yet he still decided to go for the ABF :evil:
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Khare also said an 8v on decent shocks will beat a 16v on the track. :drool:
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Khare also said an 8v on decent shocks will beat a 16v on the track. :drool:
No, he actually said "a good handling 8v with decent brakes will outperform a standard 16v around the track." Yes it is Andres but that doesn't make it a fact! :grin:
Good handling and Mk3 don't really go well together. :grin:
It would cost no more or less to upgrade the suspension and brakes on the 16v then it would to the 8v. Cost + performance is greater with the 16v :wink:
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Khare also said an 8v on decent shocks will beat a 16v on the track. :drool:
No, he actually said "a good handling 8v with decent brakes will outperform a standard 16v around the track."
amounts to the same doesnt it?
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Khare says a lot of things! Mostly rubbish!
Like his 8v would be more powerful than my 16v! Until JKM in Porstmouth! Since then he kept his mouth shut!
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what happened Len?
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Khare also said an 8v on decent shocks will beat a 16v on the track. :drool:
No, he actually said "a good handling 8v with decent brakes will outperform a standard 16v around the track."
amounts to the same doesnt it?
No, because that would mean the handling of the 8v would be modified. For the exact same cost you could do that to a 16v which would make it out perform a modified 8v.
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why are you argueing with me? I just pointed out what Khare said. And that was pointed out earlier. You referred to khare having an 16valver over an 8v, I referred to him saying about an an 8v with good handling and decent brakes(ie not standard) would beat a standard 16v round the track. And thats presicesly what he said, So you aint making sense. :kiss:
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Port TB,Smooth air box + filter, Cat back, PB cam, Swap gearbox for one with lower FD..............
If you want handling and fast try an M3 :wink:
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Khare says a lot of things! Mostly rubbish!
Like his 8v would be more powerful than my 16v! Until JKM in Porstmouth! Since then he kept his mouth shut!
I was on about TORQUE Len. And remember the result? Oh yeah, I beat you and your exhaust system, remap and filter combo, with my standard, unserviced 8v at the time :grin: :tongue:
Again my superiority was demonstrated at Rtech's RR day, 138ft-lb :wink:
What I mean is a standard 8v will loose against a standard 16v, but an 8v with chassis modifications (suspension, ARBs, brakes) will outhandle a 16v, and over a lap make up time over the 16v, unless that lap is of the indianapolis track....
Yes for the same cost you could do a 16v, that that would be a modified 8v, but the OP hasn't got a 16v so he wouldn't be able to afford a 16v AND chassis upgrades.
Of course a lot depends on who's driving and weather conditions.
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I thought I beat you at Portsmouth!
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In HP clearly yes, but not in torque my friend, I remember I was a smug khare for the rest of that day :laugh:
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buy a mk2?
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Okay i'll pull out only the relevant info on this thread lol
8v tuning = Port Throttle Body,Smooth air box + performance filter, Cat back exhaust sytem, Cam, Lower final Drive gear box and then a remap, added with a decent suspension setup.
Try picking up a 16v and do the above to it, gains will be better. Of course only if you can sell the 8v and pick up a 16v for the same price or less! :laugh:
Pointless arguing about nothing that doesn't make sense can be found here...
Khare also said an 8v on decent shocks will beat a 16v on the track. :drool:
No, he actually said "a good handling 8v with decent brakes will outperform a standard 16v around the track."
amounts to the same doesnt it?
No, because that would mean the handling of the 8v would be modified. For the exact same cost you could do that to a 16v which would make it out perform a modified 8v.
why are you argueing with me? I just pointed out what Khare said. And that was pointed out earlier. You referred to khare having an 16valver over an 8v, I referred to him saying about an an 8v with good handling and decent brakes(ie not standard) would beat a standard 16v round the track. And thats presicesly what he said, So you aint making sense. :kiss:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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I hear lambo doors help with aerodynamics.
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Where's them blooming readouts! :grin:
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Cant see yours on JKM's website Khare! :rolleyes:
Perhaps they didnt want to embarrass an 8V! :grin:
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You're obviously not looking enough Len.