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Title: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 19 November 2010, 21:04
would  a faulty thermostat cause a car to run rich...

ive recently replaced temp sender (genuine part) but car still doesnt sit bang on at 90...when about town it does but when on open roads it drops back a bit..... heater does work to great either on open roads, not alot of warm air...

also notice fuel consumption has dropped.........

thanks,

Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: richw911 on 19 November 2010, 21:09
No but you defiantly need a new one  :laugh:
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 20 November 2010, 20:41
thinking now its the water pump....... ?

Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: turbo.jon on 20 November 2010, 22:11
was it a cheap sensor you fitted as i fitted one on mine and had same problems changed thermostat twice and still the same in end had to pay out for gen vw sensor for about £29 of top me head and this sorted it so look like it was faulty sensor.
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 20 November 2010, 22:16
genuine vw temp sender fitted....

- mpg is done quite considerably,....
- Temp guage sits between minimum and 60-70 on motorways and all normal driving on main roads.....
- When idling, or crawling in traffic jam temp guage goes to 90, no higher
- Top pipe on the right of the radiator (looking down on it) gets warm ...
- bottom pipe from radiator on right hand side is cold....

so thermostat...or water pump.......

on idle i can see coolant being pumped into the tank at left side of engine bay so perhaps water pump is ok or maybe its not operating at its full.......

headache.............
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: chrisr103 on 20 November 2010, 23:50
I would say thermostat,

I recently changed my temp sensor for a genuine VW one but like yours the Gauge would sit at about 1/4 when on motorway, Would rise to 90 when stationary or driving slowly

Changed thermostat & it now sits bang on 90
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 20 November 2010, 23:53
thermostat u think might be sitting partially open............?

reason i dont think its the water pump is that at the coolant fill tank i can see fluid being pumped in........

water pump was only fitted 1yr ago (8k miles)..............

Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: Wayne on 21 November 2010, 00:12
Thermstat I think is giving you problems
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: nige_s on 21 November 2010, 18:18
Thermostat would be my first port of call.

Surely if its the pump it would be overheating?  Well certainly getting to 90 degrees and then buzzing the aux fan constantly?

The stat and temp sender I have fitted recently were both GSF parts so not genuine and they work and operate as normal.  Although I could tell that the spring on the 'stat was thinner than that on the original part I tool off, so I guess it won't last as long.

Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: The Dave on 21 November 2010, 18:38
Another vote for thermostat, mine dropped back the temp on the move then went back to 90 when in traffic or sitting idling etc.. also took ages to warm up.

New stat job done.
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 21 November 2010, 19:44
how much for a thermostat and seal ring anyways....?

europart online list them as £9 ish with seal....

are these ok or is it better to get from vw dealers....?
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: Wayne on 21 November 2010, 19:47
I would go for a genuine one to be honest.
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 21 November 2010, 19:47
any ideas on cost....?
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: daz veedub on 21 November 2010, 20:03
ive just ordered thermostat and gasket £9 from europarts
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: richw911 on 21 November 2010, 20:14
any ideas on cost....?

mk4 Golf 1.8T Thermostat -                  £13.71 inc VAT (PCP)  Part Number - S050121113C
mk4 Golf 1.8T Thermostat Washer -       £1.54 inc VAT -          Part Number - S038121119B
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: paulwayman on 21 November 2010, 20:32
any ideas on cost....?

i ordered temp sender other day from pulmans vw £32.10 in vat
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: ade_aidy_ady on 23 November 2010, 22:43
Well fitted new thermostat today and gauge now sits bang on 90 all the time! Still got the code for running rich in bank one but now after changing stat mpg has increased ... back into 40's onto motorway/ main roads....  :smiley:
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: tech1889 on 23 November 2010, 22:47
i only get 40 mpg on xmas day its rare on mine lol has been getting better since fitting catch can tho..
Title: Re: thermostat / running rich...
Post by: The Dave on 24 November 2010, 00:31
Good times I thought it'd be that :)